Manic Pixie Dream Girl

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Ohlookit'sMatty

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So I think I know where this is coming from, but not where it is going // Also, where did she get that knife from!

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Denamic

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She's quirky, yeah.
"Quirky."
I'd use stronger words, but it's not wrong.
Just doesn't... quite cover it.
 

mdqp

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
Entitled said:
The way I see it, it's a term for a woman who is a bachelorette who doesn't really give a crap about anything much but self satisfaction and fun.

The sexist part is that these women only exist in film to make grumpy and stuffy men see how to have fun in life (hence the 'Dream Girl' part) rather than be a character in and of themselves.

I could be described as a manic pixie dream girl (ugh I don't like the phraseology though) in the way that I, personally, don't really behave like an average 30 year old woman at all. Ironically my male best mate is the grumpiest fucker to have ever lived. I'm wondering if it's as much as illusion of film makers than a reflection of the type of people who fit the MPDG type attract in their lives seen from a largely male perspective.
But you see, if you want to analyze this trope, you'll find out that this is as sexist to men as it is to women. Stories involving MPDG have a main character that is either an ass, or someone unable to enjoy life, and they can only be saved if a woman comes to help them see the light. Nevermind if they have a friend (there is always one) that tells him that he should loosen up, that he is missing on life, if it doesn't come from a girl that makes them fall in love (and true love is quirky, as everybody knows), those things will never get through his thick skull.

Now if you take these kind of stories seriously, you'll realize that they are simply dumb, and do nothing interesting with the protagonists. Both the male lead and the female lead are shallow characters, and they are usually meant to be used in humorous(?) comedies.

It's not sexist for the sake of sexism, the author isn't subconsciously bashing women, it is just a cheap trope, so it falls apart as soon as you start to examine it, under every point of view you want to take.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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mdqp said:
the author isn't subconsciously bashing women,
I never said they were I was merely pointing out how it COULD be taken as sexist. I don't really think it is, just a weird trope as you say. It was the guys previous that I quoted that mentioned it may be sexist.
 

mdqp

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
mdqp said:
the author isn't subconsciously bashing women,
I never said they were I was merely pointing out how it COULD be taken as sexist. I don't really think it is, just a weird trope as you say. It was the guys previous that I quoted that mentioned it may be sexist.
Sorry then, I guess I misread, and I should have addressed it to the other guy (but I am so lazy I might actually let it go, one attempt is enough... :p).

Meanwhile, the captcha says "bowties are cool"... Everybody like to give fashion tips, I guess.
 

BehattedWanderer

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And you wonder why there's never two of them in one movie. It's like Highlander--there can only be one.