No, that's pretty much exactly what I meant (although, was a bit drunk and tired when sending the post...). A Synopsis is only supposed to get people interested but it's very difficult to do that with only a handful of sentences. Even a short synopsis for something like Blade Runner could make it sound like a bad movie.Zachary Amaranth said:Not only did you get the original point, but I think you touched upon an interesting point in itself.ninjaRiv said:I think everyone's main point is that your claim to be a writer has nothing to do with what you said. I'm just throwing that out there. Also, that you based everything on an image and a short synopsis, which is not something a writer should ever do... I'm just saying.
Synospes suck. It's something writers should know, it's something agents acknowledge, it's something publishers seem to be aware of. Coming up with a decent summary is hard and often times comes off bad.
I don't think that's where you were going, but I also think that it doesn't take a writer's perspective to specifically understand that a good writer can make a cliché fest work and a bad writer can ruin an awesome idea.
You know what? I like this comment! I really do. I'm with ya, brother. I mean when you put it like that, how can this not be awesome?TheNaut131 said:Look, there's going to be a raccoon strapped with every gun known and unknown to man unloading said guns in gratuitous fashion while most likely piggy-backing on the shoulder of a giant sentient tree yelling it's name over and over again and flailing around while most likely firing it's own platitude of weapons in a gratuitous fashion
In Space
Fuck you, I'm going to see this movie and I'm going to enjoy it.
And fun and stupid can go hand in hand. There are plenty of examples for that.Johnny Novgorod said:Well doesn't this look fucking stupid. Dammit people, FUN and STUPID don't NEED to go hand in hand. I don't have to like Citizen Kane to know it.
With the exception of Bill & Ted's whatever none of those movies are "stupid". Monty Python is sketch comedy in movie form, Big Lebowsky is California noir with a stoner replacing the detective archetype, O Brother retells Odyssey through Depression Era story (don't confuse stupid characters with stupid movie; same for Fish Called Wanda). Dogma is bad but nowhere near stupid. What's stupid about Reservoir Dogs? Again, stupid, incompetent characters don't necessarily make stupid movies.JenSeven said:And fun and stupid can go hand in hand. There are plenty of examples for that.Johnny Novgorod said:Well doesn't this look fucking stupid. Dammit people, FUN and STUPID don't NEED to go hand in hand. I don't have to like Citizen Kane to know it.
Let's name a few.
Monty Python And The Holy Grail.
The Big Lebowsky.
Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure.
A Fish Called Wanda.
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Dogma.
Reservoir Dogs
None of these movies have a story that is particularly deep or meaningful and still are a great amount of fun.
And if someone were to write a synopsis on any of these, they would look completely stupid and dumb too, generic even in some cases.
Let's not base our assumptions on a single picture, the names of a few actors and a very brief synopsis till we have actually seen the movie. We don't know what it is, what it looks like or any details.
Drax The Destroyer is kind of grim, but he's more or less a hero:Scarim Coral said:Mmm interesting roster, isn't Drax a villain and I thought that green woman was Mantis? Also isn't Star-Lord is a a cyborg of some kind? Lastly man Rocket Racoon look slim compared to his comicbook apperance.
Either way I am more hype up!
Oh, so you've seen it already, have you?Johnny Novgorod said:With the exception of Bill & Ted's whatever none of those movies are "stupid". Monty Python is sketch comedy in movie form, Big Lebowsky is California noir with a stoner replacing the detective archetype, O Brother retells Odyssey through Depression Era story (don't confuse stupid characters with stupid movie; same for Fish Called Wanda). Dogma is bad but nowhere near stupid. What's stupid about Reservoir Dogs? Again, stupid, incompetent characters don't necessarily make stupid movies.JenSeven said:And fun and stupid can go hand in hand. There are plenty of examples for that.Johnny Novgorod said:Well doesn't this look fucking stupid. Dammit people, FUN and STUPID don't NEED to go hand in hand. I don't have to like Citizen Kane to know it.
Let's name a few.
Monty Python And The Holy Grail.
The Big Lebowsky.
Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure.
A Fish Called Wanda.
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Dogma.
Reservoir Dogs
None of these movies have a story that is particularly deep or meaningful and still are a great amount of fun.
And if someone were to write a synopsis on any of these, they would look completely stupid and dumb too, generic even in some cases.
Let's not base our assumptions on a single picture, the names of a few actors and a very brief synopsis till we have actually seen the movie. We don't know what it is, what it looks like or any details.
This Galaxy movie looks stupid. It's set in a series of movies that take themselves seriously. It's not a parody of anything and it's not going down as a comedy. It's another Joss Whedon-y superhero action movie with lots of CGI and stupid-looking stock sci-fi characters trying to out-sass each other.
I'm as entitled to be sceptical as you are to be hopeful. What are these marketing ploys for anyway?BiscuitWheels said:Oh, so you've seen it already, have you?Johnny Novgorod said:With the exception of Bill & Ted's whatever none of those movies are "stupid". Monty Python is sketch comedy in movie form, Big Lebowsky is California noir with a stoner replacing the detective archetype, O Brother retells Odyssey through Depression Era story (don't confuse stupid characters with stupid movie; same for Fish Called Wanda). Dogma is bad but nowhere near stupid. What's stupid about Reservoir Dogs? Again, stupid, incompetent characters don't necessarily make stupid movies.JenSeven said:And fun and stupid can go hand in hand. There are plenty of examples for that.Johnny Novgorod said:Well doesn't this look fucking stupid. Dammit people, FUN and STUPID don't NEED to go hand in hand. I don't have to like Citizen Kane to know it.
Let's name a few.
Monty Python And The Holy Grail.
The Big Lebowsky.
Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure.
A Fish Called Wanda.
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Dogma.
Reservoir Dogs
None of these movies have a story that is particularly deep or meaningful and still are a great amount of fun.
And if someone were to write a synopsis on any of these, they would look completely stupid and dumb too, generic even in some cases.
Let's not base our assumptions on a single picture, the names of a few actors and a very brief synopsis till we have actually seen the movie. We don't know what it is, what it looks like or any details.
This Galaxy movie looks stupid. It's set in a series of movies that take themselves seriously. It's not a parody of anything and it's not going down as a comedy. It's another Joss Whedon-y superhero action movie with lots of CGI and stupid-looking stock sci-fi characters trying to out-sass each other.
Watch it as shit blowing up. Also, go in with incredibly low expectations. I was expecting nothing out of The Avengers, and ended up with an entertaining movie that had plenty of destruction. Too many people go in expecting the writing quality of The Sopranos, or Breaking Bad. And then they wonder why Transfers was so bad. If you go into those movies wanting, and expecting, nothing more than a series of epic action scenes, you will not be disappointed.AJey said:Could not be less impressed. Superhero genre in comics has been hemorrhaged with cliches and terrible writing for decades, and now they are bringing it all to big screen. Sorry, but as a writer, I just dont see a single interesting thing in this. Story looks boring, characters look boring (Bautista is a terrible actor), and this whole thing looks so damn silly. Sorry to the fans, but I just cant take this seriously one bit.
They're also horribly unfruitful for the creators. I mean, unless there really is nothing other than the synopsis. then it can mask your crappiness, I suppose.ninjaRiv said:No, that's pretty much exactly what I meant (although, was a bit drunk and tired when sending the post...). A Synopsis is only supposed to get people interested but it's very difficult to do that with only a handful of sentences. Even a short synopsis for something like Blade Runner could make it sound like a bad movie.