Mass Effect 2--Cerberus Theories

[Avatar Roku]

Mass effect is a great game kinda hard to replay because of all of the talktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalk but i'm just waiting till i forget all they said and play that bad boy again

Hard to replay? Tell that to my 9 playthroughs (and counting).

Um good for you?

Yes. Yes it is. [small]I need a life.[/small]

 

[Doug]

I wonder what everyone thinks of...

Spoiler

The Reapers? Who made them? Or rather, how and when did I they come into existent? And why do the repeat the cycle of let organic civilizations grow and then wipe them out? Or is it impossible for us to understand as, lets face it, the Reapers are absolutely alien to us...?

The Reapers are the Protheans.

Actually, I'm just guessing. That, and I like saying that, it sounds suitably mysterious. Not that it would ever happen, given as it is from the "blatantly obvious" school of plot twists and I doubt Bioware would stoop that low. Though I can really only think of one other blatantly obvious "twist" in a game of late...

lol, I did think for 1 second "What the hell..." Doesn't actually make sense though - the Reapers where around before the Protheans, as it seems the Reapers a) wiped out species before, and b) built the mass relays and citadel themselves.

 

[Avatar Roku]

I wonder what everyone thinks of...

Spoiler

The Reapers? Who made them? Or rather, how and when did I they come into existent? And why do the repeat the cycle of let organic civilizations grow and then wipe them out? Or is it impossible for us to understand as, lets face it, the Reapers are absolutely alien to us...?

The Reapers are the Protheans.

Actually, I'm just guessing. That, and I like saying that, it sounds suitably mysterious. Not that it would ever happen, given as it is from the "blatantly obvious" school of plot twists and I doubt Bioware would stoop that low. Though I can really only think of one other blatantly obvious "twist" in a game of late...

lol, I did think for 1 second "What the hell..." Doesn't actually make sense though - the Reapers where around before the Protheans, as it seems the Reapers a) wiped out species before, and b) built the mass relays and citadel themselves.

Yep, you had Vigil on Ilos to tell you that the Protheans got wiped out by the Reapers, as well as the Precursors before them, etc.

 

[veryboringfact]

Seeing as the spoiler alert has been given, i can safely ask how will they handle the open-end of the original ? Choosing to either save the council or help Earth achieve galactic dominance by letting them die must have a pretty mass(ive) effect on how the rest of the story will play out..... Maybe Shepard will for no apparent reason jet off to the edge of the universe and they will pull a new hero out of their ass and have you spent the first 15 minutes of the game playing 20 questions to make up for every major event in the first game.

They've said that they'll let you reuse your saves from the first game, and that Shep is the main character for all three.

Hurray, which makes me think they will more likely change the setting, no more citadel.....unless they really go to alot of effort to create different branches from the start to reflect your original choices, and then give you even more choices from there, the workload would be horrendous.

 

[Avatar Roku]

Seeing as the spoiler alert has been given, i can safely ask how will they handle the open-end of the original ? Choosing to either save the council or help Earth achieve galactic dominance by letting them die must have a pretty mass(ive) effect on how the rest of the story will play out..... Maybe Shepard will for no apparent reason jet off to the edge of the universe and they will pull a new hero out of their ass and have you spent the first 15 minutes of the game playing 20 questions to make up for every major event in the first game.

They've said that they'll let you reuse your saves from the first game, and that Shep is the main character for all three.

Hurray, which makes me think they will more likely change the setting, no more citadel.....unless they really go to alot of effort to create different branches from the start to reflect your original choices, and then give you even more choices from there, the workload would be horrendous.

That's actually exactly what they've said they'll do. To paraphrase one interview on the subject I saw, a person who uses a save from the first game that chose mostly Paragon will have an almost completely different game then one who did mostly Renegade. I'll believe it when I see it, but still.

 

[Kogarian]

I think it was over-hyped. I loved watching the people talk and everything, but the choice of species (an all female race that sleeps with everyone to get pregant?) and the terrible combat ruined it for me. Yes, that's right, it ruined it. I could've sat around and listened to them talk for hours on end, but when I was in control of the character himself, it made me feel...bad inside.

 

[MannyDon]

I always thought ME2 would have like a Batarian invasion or something they hate humans even attacked them, even left the alliance because of the humans. And now with the alliance fleet pretty well smashed up after ME1 it would seem like a good time to come bask for some good old payback. Plus they were the Bad guys in the DLC.

But after that teaser who knows could be anything.

 

[Avatar Roku]

I think it was over-hyped. I loved watching the people talk and everything, but the choice of species (an all female race that sleeps with everyone to get pregant?) and the terrible combat ruined it for me. Yes, that's right, it ruined it. I could've sat around and listened to them talk for hours on end, but when I was in control of the character himself, it made me feel...bad inside.

You seem to have a slight misunderstanding of the Asari. They don't need physical contact at all, they just join minds with someone else. However, I'd imagine it would be common courtesy (as well as a display of intimacy) to help their partner "get off" as it were, if they were another species.

As for the combat, I actually kind of liked it, but to each their own.

 

[soren7550]

I think that Cerberus wants Shepard dead because:
-he/she has consorted w/ aliens (a big no-no to them).
-he/she stopped/foiled/killed many of their missions/members (if you did the sidequest involving them).
-he/she is preventing them from using the geth/Reapers for their own use.

 

[high_castle]

They've said that they'll let you reuse your saves from the first game, and that Shep is the main character for all three.

Hurray, which makes me think they will more likely change the setting, no more citadel.....unless they really go to alot of effort to create different branches from the start to reflect your original choices, and then give you even more choices from there, the workload would be horrendous.

That's actually exactly what they've said they'll do. To paraphrase one interview on the subject I saw, a person who uses a save from the first game that chose mostly Paragon will have an almost completely different game then one who did mostly Renegade. I'll believe it when I see it, but still.

That would certainly be quite a feat if Bioware could pull it off. And talk about replay value. Not only would it make the first game even more replayable (to see what effect your choices have on the second), but it also makes the second one doubly so. I'm breaking my whole don't-get-hyped-for-a-sequel rule and actually rooting for this one.

I think that Cerberus wants Shepard dead because:
-he/she has consorted w/ aliens (a big no-no to them).
-he/she stopped/foiled/killed many of their missions/members (if you did the sidequest involving them).
-he/she is preventing them from using the geth/Reapers for their own use.

I agree, but what's Cerberus's angle with the geth/Reapers? Surely they have to realize the synthetics want them dead, too. Unless we've got another rogue AI in our midst.

 

[Avatar Roku]

They've said that they'll let you reuse your saves from the first game, and that Shep is the main character for all three.

Hurray, which makes me think they will more likely change the setting, no more citadel.....unless they really go to alot of effort to create different branches from the start to reflect your original choices, and then give you even more choices from there, the workload would be horrendous.

That's actually exactly what they've said they'll do. To paraphrase one interview on the subject I saw, a person who uses a save from the first game that chose mostly Paragon will have an almost completely different game then one who did mostly Renegade. I'll believe it when I see it, but still.

That would certainly be quite a feat if Bioware could pull it off. And talk about replay value. Not only would it make the first game even more replayable (to see what effect your choices have on the second), but it also makes the second one doubly so. I'm breaking my whole don't-get-hyped-for-a-sequel rule and actually rooting for this one.

Don't get too hyped. It's quite a mean feat, even if Bioware did make it sound like they'd already done it. Something tells me the "separate games" comment was an exaggeration.

 

[soren7550]

I think that Cerberus wants Shepard dead because:
-he/she has consorted w/ aliens (a big no-no to them).
-he/she stopped/foiled/killed many of their missions/members (if you did the sidequest involving them).
-he/she is preventing them from using the geth/Reapers for their own use.

I agree, but what's Cerberus's angle with the geth/Reapers? Surely they have to realize the synthetics want them dead, too. Unless we've got another rogue AI in our midst.

Maybe, they like the quarians want to get a Reaper(s) because they think they can re-purpose them to fight for them (see Mass Effect:Ascension)

 

[Khazoth]

I loved Mass Effect, I withhold judgement for Mass Effect 2. I hold Bioware by a higher standard then I hold other game developers, they have yet to dissapoint and that is why I hold them to such a higher degree of scrutiny.

 

[high_castle]

They've said that they'll let you reuse your saves from the first game, and that Shep is the main character for all three.

Hurray, which makes me think they will more likely change the setting, no more citadel.....unless they really go to alot of effort to create different branches from the start to reflect your original choices, and then give you even more choices from there, the workload would be horrendous.

That's actually exactly what they've said they'll do. To paraphrase one interview on the subject I saw, a person who uses a save from the first game that chose mostly Paragon will have an almost completely different game then one who did mostly Renegade. I'll believe it when I see it, but still.

That would certainly be quite a feat if Bioware could pull it off. And talk about replay value. Not only would it make the first game even more replayable (to see what effect your choices have on the second), but it also makes the second one doubly so. I'm breaking my whole don't-get-hyped-for-a-sequel rule and actually rooting for this one.

Don't get too hyped. It's quite a mean feat, even if Bioware did make it sound like they'd already done it. Something tells me the "separate games" comment was an exaggeration.

Yeah, I know. Inevitable disappointment at all. I had zero expectations for Mass Effect, and loved it. So if I keep that same cynicism, I'll probably enjoy the sequel. But I've got this tiny bit of excitement that I can't quite squash. And even if Bioware can't manage the two radically different games, as long as the sequel has the same engaging storyline and colorful characters, I think we'll be fine. The disappearance of those repetitive elevator sequences is a major plus, as well.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

Seeing as the spoiler alert has been given, i can safely ask how will they handle the open-end of the original ? Choosing to either save the council or help Earth achieve galactic dominance by letting them die must have a pretty mass(ive) effect on how the rest of the story will play out.....

I see what u did thar.

 

[Doc Theta Sigma]

Cerberus is basically a human supremacist terrorist group according to Mass Effect: Ascension so it doesn't make sense that they'd ally themselves with the Geth and Reapers. Personally I think it'll end up a three way deal with the Citadel Races, Reapers and Cerberus all going at it.

 

[Rhayn]

Wild Mass Effect-Rhayn appears!

With that out of the way, I theorize The Collectors could have something to do with the Reapers. Possibly built them, or aid them. All the strange requests could possibly be for study on how the Reapers could indoctrinate the various species in the galaxy. Not to mention, since the Reapers are a fleet of huge Dreadnoughts, how did they build something as complex as the Citadel without at least some help from smaller beings?

Cerberus however, I think they're little more than a terrorist organisation. Terra Firma and Cerberus definately have somekind of connection I reckon. Since the Terra Firma-guy appeared at the very end, I suspect they are going to build up on that in the sequel. Possibly depending on if you told them to shove off or if you promised to give a speech, they could either kidnap/attack you, or aid you in some way. I'm thinking the Cerberus/Shadow Broker connection is possible, and once again I strenghten my theory over that they could possibly want to harm you/help you if depending on your choice with the information Kahoku had.

I doubt Cerberus has anything to do with the Geth nor the Reapers. Surely even a human supremacist organisation will want their race to continue to exist?

 

[thiosk]

Shepard dies on page 185!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry

ill play me2, i enjoyed me1 very much.

 

[Symp4thy]

I just hope we get a Volus on our team.

 

[G1eet]

I LOVED that game. Seriously, I played through it 10 times. Who said it was bad?!

I never did. I've played it tons of times through; I just started it on Insantity for the achievement, and I'm already on Noveria.

Plus I just realized your post count is 123. Lol, yes, I'm that bored.