True, it's very, very shallow, which is below Bioware's standard.
I liked it, but gone are the golden days of yore.
I liked it, but gone are the golden days of yore.
Mass Effect 2 - It was good, but not that great
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It wasn't good, it wasn't even great. It was spectacular.
Now can we stop with the sudden flood of threads calling "Mass Effect 2 was decent" or "Mass Effect 2 isn't a RPG"? It is painfully remeniscing of last years flood of "Modern Warfare 2" threads.
In a year we'll all be whining about Skyrim somehow not delivering.
Now can we stop with the sudden flood of threads calling "Mass Effect 2 was decent" or "Mass Effect 2 isn't a RPG"? It is painfully remeniscing of last years flood of "Modern Warfare 2" threads.
In a year we'll all be whining about Skyrim somehow not delivering.
Well, the problem here is that you're comparing a shooter to an RPG. Although they appear similar, they're both coming at it from opposite directions.OniaPL said:
Gears of War is a skill based shooter, in that the game play of shooting is the main event. It's coming to third person combat from the FPS genre. It emphasises player skill over story telling. That's not to say GoW wasn't good at telling the story, I'm just saying the combat mechanic isn't meant to support it. Rather in that game, the story is there to support the combat.
Mass Effect 2 is a role playing game. It's designed to tell the story first, with combat supporting the story, with it's roots in the old top down, random chance via D20 games. To that end, it's not trying to challenge you in the same way as GoW is doing, it's trying to trick you into believing you are Commander Shepard, space captain hero.
Since your experience of the game was similar to GoW, I'm willing to bet you played as a soldier. This class is very much the spray and pray Rambo style hero. If you want a more tactically inclined play experience, try either the adept or the infiltrator.
But, the real test of Mass Effect 2 should lie in how it made you feel. Did you feel like Rambo stomping down the corridors of an alien ship? But then again, it might just be that you prefer challenging yourself in a shooter, rather than indulging in a bit of role play fantasy.
So there you go. Different design philosophies, and pick the one you like best.
Nerdy fiction world, guns and pretty easy combat(skill tree is pretty pointless, +% 1,2,4,5,6 for all abilities is not a interresting Also cross class talents so they arent very unique. bla bla) everyone just pick soldier aldy and gg, extreme ammounts of intercharacter relations = Masseffect and dragon age. Not my kind of games but the basic internett nerds with not much skill seem to enjoy it, and well game mag dev's etc pretty much are those kind of ppl.
I've been there, my friend.Daystar Clarion said:
I've said it before (maybe not here, but I have said it), and I've been more sure of this than just about anything in my life: Mass Effect 2 is the best game that I have ever played, on any system, in my entire life.
Sure there are a few things that could be improved (resource mining and minor camera glitches during cutscenes), but it's not enough to irritate me. I have not yet grown tired of it, and I hopefully never will.
yeah well you need to understand that it's the middle of the trilogy. Besides have you seen the cutscenes vs gameplay very nice.
Sorry I wasn't clear on my point. It's not choosing straight or gay. It's about the fact that I had personal relationships. With most games you're either alone or if you do have teammates you don't get to spend time with them, get to know them. If there is a love interest it's a pre-determined, you're this guy or girl who loves this guy or girl.OniaPL said:
I got to decide my love life in the game.
Its great, but over hyped.
Planet mining, and very much dumbed down from the previous game made a second run-through very boring for me.
Planet mining, and very much dumbed down from the previous game made a second run-through very boring for me.
That's what we all thought of Modern Warfare 2. I certainly thought it would be the second coming of christ and look what that got me.Skoldpadda said:
Besides, I will have lots of input on Skyrim because I'm probably chosing Mass Effect 3 over any game next holiday. That's of course Valve isn't involved in anything holidays-ish.
Or Duke Nukem. Always Duke Nukem.
I just cry when I hear someone call ME 2 RPG. It was a shooter with slight rpg- elements. These minor rpg- elements don't give a free pass to Bioware for not really trying with combat.beniki said:
I think of myself as an RPG player, but in ME I felt like a spectator and not Shepard himself.
It's epic, is got great acting, writing and missions, and the combat feels really good too (although if you're playing as a soldier, you're not doing it right). It also approaches the story in a different way too, which felt quite refreshing - seeking out most of your companions and gaining their trust felt more interesting then going to 4 or 5 different places, each with their own big quest and lots of little ones. It really put emphasis on the characters.
Having your choices carry over from the first, and seeing the preparations you have or haven't made for the final mission affect the lives of all your crew is great too.
The entire time I was playing it I was thinking, "this is fucking amazing". The opening sequence is powerful stuff too.
People need to get the fuck over the RPG thing too. Dragon Age (which I also love to bits) is for classic, old-school stats based gameplay, Mass Effect is far more about character interaction and the snowballing consequences of your actions - and yeah, that comes under the RPG tag too. They took the series in a direction that was best for it.
Having your choices carry over from the first, and seeing the preparations you have or haven't made for the final mission affect the lives of all your crew is great too.
The entire time I was playing it I was thinking, "this is fucking amazing". The opening sequence is powerful stuff too.
People need to get the fuck over the RPG thing too. Dragon Age (which I also love to bits) is for classic, old-school stats based gameplay, Mass Effect is far more about character interaction and the snowballing consequences of your actions - and yeah, that comes under the RPG tag too. They took the series in a direction that was best for it.
It's a good game, but there's always a sense of soullessness just beneath the surface whenever I play it.
I play this game only for the story and characters; the gameplay is just a means to an end for me. Now, there have been other games where I played almost exclusively for the story, but atleast there the gameplay was somewhat intergrated with the narrative. But in Mass Effect 2, the gameplay and narrative seem almost completely cut off from one another. Making it so that I'm always chewing myself through the gameplay in order to get to the story bits.
This makes playing multible runthrough's of the game seem like such a damn chore.
I play this game only for the story and characters; the gameplay is just a means to an end for me. Now, there have been other games where I played almost exclusively for the story, but atleast there the gameplay was somewhat intergrated with the narrative. But in Mass Effect 2, the gameplay and narrative seem almost completely cut off from one another. Making it so that I'm always chewing myself through the gameplay in order to get to the story bits.
This makes playing multible runthrough's of the game seem like such a damn chore.
Red dead redemption received far, far more awards. I found this pretty annoying considering I ultimately never finished the game because I got sick of hearing the character's soliloquies for an end to all government. I frankly would have picked ME2 as my game of the year, but awards are a tad pointless compared to sales.OniaPL said:
And how, I dunno, all the elements were there none were bad. I played through it three times. It's fun? What more substantiation can I offer? Sadly though New Vegas got no love, yes it had bugs but it was twice the game fallout 3 was and people showered that mediocre title with praise.
You mean by choices carrying over that either Kaidan or Ashley make a few minute appearance, or will Liara knew that you had a romance with her? They were pulling punches for ME 3.Woodsey said:
The opening sequence wasnt that amazing. It was just an excuse for you to change your old Shepard to a new one.
You sound pretty bitter with this "pulling punches" stuff. You're making some negative assumptions there. Can I ask what game you'd have preferred?OniaPL said:
For me Red Dead Redemption was the game of the year, and I haven't played it. A game of the year should symbolise the pinnacle of technical and narrative achievement, but if all things are even it should also symbolise the introduction of something new, whether it be a mechanic or an aesthetic.
If RDR had a Lone Ranger license I would have finished twice by now
If RDR had a Lone Ranger license I would have finished twice by now