lol except non of your decisions really matters. none. and some just ignored (Anderson). i'm done with bioware and mass effect.
I believe that's actually addressed in one of the books. Don't quote me on that, as I've only read a little bit of the first book, which takes place well before the first game, but from what I've heard, Anderson voluntarily steps down. It's kinda stupid for them to put such a big plot point in a book and not at least reference it directly in game, but there it is.Arina Love said:lol except non of your decisions really matters. none. and some just ignored (Anderson). i'm done with bioware and mass effect.
Yeah! Like how in the first game, deciding who lives and hwo dies doesnt matter...because you... decide who lives... and who dies?Arina Love said:lol except non of your decisions really matters. none. and some just ignored (Anderson). i'm done with bioware and mass effect.
Same. Honestly, what he's describing here doesn't sound that bad. How did they fuck it up?Simalacrum said:Apparently I HAVE been living under a rock, because this is the first I've heard about any controversy...
My opinion? Not bad. The endings are visually similar to each other and require sacrifice, so its not a "happy" happy ending.RJ Dalton said:Same. Honestly, what he's describing here doesn't sound that bad. How did they fuck it up?Simalacrum said:Apparently I HAVE been living under a rock, because this is the first I've heard about any controversy...
Honestly option B is their best option. While yes people will will say it was just a copy of what the fans wanted the support for such a movement will be lucky to have half the numbers of the current one. At this point it isn't about appeasing everyone it is about damage control to their reputation.shado_temple said:BioWare will continue to hem and haw about this situation for as long as possible, and I can't honestly blame them for wanting to. Really, there is no way for them to win in this situation; the "fan base" has them cornered when it comes to every option, with those being:
A) They leave the game as is, and claim that the original game is "as intended". The "Retake Mass Effect" movement will cry foul, and will ask the gaming community to both disown BioWare and to boycott any upcoming games. People will continue to send complaints to the FTC and BBB, and this controversy will continue.
B) They work pro bono to complete an entire new ending to the game. If it differs from the endings written by the fans, people will still be angered by the new ending; if it uses a plot point that a fan did come up with, people may enjoy the ending, but will persecute BioWare for being unable to come up with "original" writing anymore. Either way, Mass Effect 3 will permanently have that '*' next to its title in gamer history as being one that "could've been written better by fans".
C) They work (for pay) to complete an entire new ending to the game, and sell it as DLC. Gamers across the internet (regardless of whether they played the game or not) will declare this as clear and definitive proof that EvilArts has corrupted all that is/used to be the BioWare that everyone grew up with and cherished. See the consequences for option A, except replace the "fix the ending" banner motto with "split from EA". Yes, I understand that many have stated that they would be willing to pay for a fix, but you know that an argument like the one above will arise.
While I understand that they were the ones that dug this hole by making the ending how it currently plays, it is the fans that are covering said hole, thereby eliminating any chance of escape.
I have yet to see any evidence that the fans could write a better ending.Jodah said:Honestly option B is their best option. While yes people will will say it was just a copy of what the fans wanted the support for such a movement will be lucky to have half the numbers of the current one. At this point it isn't about appeasing everyone it is about damage control to their reputation.shado_temple said:BioWare will continue to hem and haw about this situation for as long as possible, and I can't honestly blame them for wanting to. Really, there is no way for them to win in this situation; the "fan base" has them cornered when it comes to every option, with those being:
A) They leave the game as is, and claim that the original game is "as intended". The "Retake Mass Effect" movement will cry foul, and will ask the gaming community to both disown BioWare and to boycott any upcoming games. People will continue to send complaints to the FTC and BBB, and this controversy will continue.
B) They work pro bono to complete an entire new ending to the game. If it differs from the endings written by the fans, people will still be angered by the new ending; if it uses a plot point that a fan did come up with, people may enjoy the ending, but will persecute BioWare for being unable to come up with "original" writing anymore. Either way, Mass Effect 3 will permanently have that '*' next to its title in gamer history as being one that "could've been written better by fans".
C) They work (for pay) to complete an entire new ending to the game, and sell it as DLC. Gamers across the internet (regardless of whether they played the game or not) will declare this as clear and definitive proof that EvilArts has corrupted all that is/used to be the BioWare that everyone grew up with and cherished. See the consequences for option A, except replace the "fix the ending" banner motto with "split from EA". Yes, I understand that many have stated that they would be willing to pay for a fix, but you know that an argument like the one above will arise.
While I understand that they were the ones that dug this hole by making the ending how it currently plays, it is the fans that are covering said hole, thereby eliminating any chance of escape.
Option A will just leave their reputation as it is, beaten and bruised after DA2 and ME3 ending. Option C may appease some people and will make them a lot of money but it will also piss off a lot more people, even those who are not ME fans. Option B will leave some pissed off but will appease the majority.
Don't know if you've seen already... but here are a few links.Muphin_Mann said:My opinion? Not bad. The endings are visually similar to each other and require sacrifice, so its not a "happy" happy ending.RJ Dalton said:Same. Honestly, what he's describing here doesn't sound that bad. How did they fuck it up?Simalacrum said:Apparently I HAVE been living under a rock, because this is the first I've heard about any controversy...
A lot of people think its just aweful but i havnt found one person yet who will lay out the reasons why in a manner that isnt either...well...stupid, or easily disputed (see my above post of key instances where your choices do matter, in direct oposition to someones claim)
1. Last 15 minutes or so. Semantics, but yeah.Mister Linton said:ITT: Entitled whiners continue to get pissy about the last 4 minutes of an amazing 30-34 hour game. "It's not teh endinng I wuz prooomissed.... wah. My choices diiidunt maaaaterr.. WAH!"
Honestly, it's really embarassing to be a video game player sometimes.
Please, tell me the differences in these endings, and how my choices affected them. Please, do:Muphin_Mann said:Yeah! Like how in the first game, deciding who lives and hwo dies doesnt matter...because you... decide who lives... and who dies?
Or how in the last game, letting the Quarians be wiped out for their own stupidity doesnt matter...because...they wouldnt have died if you saved them?
Or...how the...renegade ending...can kill an entire race...but the paragon one...doesnt?
Im lost.
I cant understand comments like this with mounds of evidence to the contrary.
yet the end is still the same just in different colours non of your choices matter at the end non of them.Muphin_Mann said:Yeah! Like how in the first game, deciding who lives and hwo dies doesnt matter...because you... decide who lives... and who dies?Arina Love said:lol except non of your decisions really matters. none. and some just ignored (Anderson). i'm done with bioware and mass effect.
Or how in the last game, letting the Quarians be wiped out for their own stupidity doesnt matter...because...they wouldnt have died if you saved them?
Or...how the...renegade ending...can kill an entire race...but the paragon one...doesnt?
Im lost.
I cant understand comments like this with mounds of evidence to the contrary.