EA and Bioware can go suck a donkey boner... After the Dragon Age 2 debacle and now this, people should REALLY, and I do mean REALLY consider ignoring their products in the future (though knowing the state of the playerbase and how Activision continues to milk their franchises I highly doubt it will ever happen).
Mass Effect 3 Director Addresses Ending Controversy
- Thread starter Earnest Cavalli
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"We're listening, we are! But in the meantime, keep playing our game, there's DLC on the way!"
ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME?!?!?!
ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME?!?!?!
Look here is a pretty good rundown on why biowares ending makes no sense. note its 15 pages long. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QT4IUepvrU1pfv_B95oQj0H84DlCTUmzQ_uQh1voTUs/preview?pli=1&sle=true
I'm gunna hurl out a prediction that the "let's change the ending" will be the last piece of DLC released. Right after the 90 million costume packs, the multiplayer maps, the new weapons/armour.etc, and that'll it be done under the guise of "we were working on the other stuff first"
I'd love to be wrong here, I'd truely love it. But I just don't see it happening.
I'd love to be wrong here, I'd truely love it. But I just don't see it happening.
You know? I don't think he's actually seen the ending. If he had, he wouldn't be saying all your choices up till now have satisfying conclusions as the game progresses because in the end, none of it matters.
The ending is always the same. The mass relays are gone. The explosions probably killed billions of people. The entire galaxy is still screwed. The turians and quarians will probably run out of supplies and starve before they can make it home.
Meanwhile, Garrus somehow magically ends up back on the Normandy with Joker and Javek. The three of them stare wistfully up at the sky thinking, "Well, that's that. I see no reason to mourn our possibly dead commander or wonder how the hell we got here. Let's rebuild civilization because we are never getting off of this rock!" Then all of Joker's bones shatter because I do not see how he could walk away from a crash like that without a single cracked femur.
ANYWAY
I guess what really bugs me is that I have no reason to play the game or even the rest of the series again. My renegade broshep will have the same ending choices and outcomes as my paragade femshep. Everything in between doesn't seem to matter.
The ending is always the same. The mass relays are gone. The explosions probably killed billions of people. The entire galaxy is still screwed. The turians and quarians will probably run out of supplies and starve before they can make it home.
Meanwhile, Garrus somehow magically ends up back on the Normandy with Joker and Javek. The three of them stare wistfully up at the sky thinking, "Well, that's that. I see no reason to mourn our possibly dead commander or wonder how the hell we got here. Let's rebuild civilization because we are never getting off of this rock!" Then all of Joker's bones shatter because I do not see how he could walk away from a crash like that without a single cracked femur.
ANYWAY
I guess what really bugs me is that I have no reason to play the game or even the rest of the series again. My renegade broshep will have the same ending choices and outcomes as my paragade femshep. Everything in between doesn't seem to matter.
I'm honestly not sure whether to feel insulted by the fact that I'm clearly expected to believe what they're continuing to shovel, or outraged at the fact that they tried to handwave it all so blatantly.Earnest Cavalli said:
Even ignoring the blatant lies and PR spin in here, it really has to be the most unhelpful non-answer about the issue I've yet seen.
Well he just described exactly the ending I wanted.
What he didn't describe was the ending I got.
What he didn't describe was the ending I got.
While I enjoy that document, there are somethings that people are making huge logical jumps in taking to make a point.digital warrior said:
One thing that got my goat was the StarChild control comment / counter point.
These two lines do not need to be mutuality exclusive. The Reapers could be fully unaware that they are fundamentally controlled by the Star Child. To the Reapers own programing/logic, they have a single goal - which was given to them by the Star Child. Any change to their behavior or control could be influenced with out their knowing.
And 2, as House M.D. states "People Lie". Just replace Reaper with People.
That sounds a bit too much like a politician's answer to me, like he's flagrantly ignoring the overwhelmingly negative reaction to the ending, covering his ears, and insisting that we "just don't get it". I loved Mass Effect 3, up until the ending. It was brilliant, well-executed, and every sacrifice felt like it meant something. Now, however, the whole thing just feels hollow.
See while I didn't like the ending the big problem to me was all the stupid Plot Holes the ending caused. I loved every minute of of the game up until i meet the blue glowy child. Cause really I could handle the samey 3 choice ending we received as long as those Blatent plot holes weren't there. I'm hoping that soon Bioware comes out and says that the indoctrination theory was correct.
I love Mass effect, I love Mass effect 2, my favorite of the 3 games. I loved Mass Effect 3, up until the last 5 minutes.....which hopefully should be fixed by the rumored "The Truth" DLC.
I don't usually get angry at developers but I do get angry when they are "hush hush" about blatant issues, such as the lack of stopping Danger Close in MW2.
I don't usually get angry at developers but I do get angry when they are "hush hush" about blatant issues, such as the lack of stopping Danger Close in MW2.
just have to ask. Did any of the journalists, including the Escapist's own Susan Ardent, whose review of ME3 appeared on release day actually play the game to the end? That seems hard to believe. While I can accept that they may have personally liked the ending (we all have our own opinion) I can't imagine they could have experienced it and not known how controversial it would be.
Giving this game a glowing review without even MENTIONING the firestorm that you surely known was coming would have been amazingly irresponsible. That is why some many fans have no faith in ANY review anymore.
Giving this game a glowing review without even MENTIONING the firestorm that you surely known was coming would have been amazingly irresponsible. That is why some many fans have no faith in ANY review anymore.
This just keeps getting funnier. The fans backlash at the ending, the developers try to fix everything with "kind words" that only make the fans angrier, the fans try to WRITE THEIR OWN ENDING AND MAKE IT CANON, Developers argue with that, etc, etc.
I've seen people blow things out of proportion, but this is so out of proportion that the term "proportion" ceases to have any meaning. I can understand that you REALLY didn't like the ending, but has it occured to anyone that this has gone on long enough?
I've seen people blow things out of proportion, but this is so out of proportion that the term "proportion" ceases to have any meaning. I can understand that you REALLY didn't like the ending, but has it occured to anyone that this has gone on long enough?
Heres a scenario for you.Dfskelleton said:
Lets say you got to write a story of your own, except the writer was someone else, all the decisions the character makes and the effect on the world are your responsibility but someone else writes it (I'll name him Joe). Towards the years and long time of the story at the ending when you want to see the results of it all, Joe says "Okay, pick your ending from this list of 3". You exclaim, "But what happened to everything I did?". Joe then says, "Oh, its okay, all your decisions were important, now you can also buy the spin offs to the story soon, have a nice day!"
Its not the fans that are the issue (Maybe some are blowing out of proportion) but its the issue of Bioware's response to us not being able to see our results that is the issue. We'd get the same response from a goddamn telemarketer.
