Mass Effect 3 DLC Appears on Xbox Live
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day one DLC is only good if it is used to reward people who buy the game new. but this is a horrible way. if you didn't bought the collectors edition you are basically missing a pretty big part of the game. and you have to pay 10 dollars to get it. that is just bullshit. i can't play with a Prothean... a PROTHEAN! one of the most important races at the moment and you only get it when you give a pretty big sum of money for it. and it is only a example of how companies work. they have the ability to make big expansions downloadable and to patch games, but instead they only give small extra content for huge prices, from which the content is mostly created before release.Mikeyfell said:
I'm getting the special edition...so I don't care.
This of course is going to be another one of those things that people are going to be pissed about because "boo-hoo, it's day 1 DLC".
It has been explained so many times in the past that it isn't even funny, but day 1 DLC isn't the end of the world and it isn't a bad thing. Considering that this DLC wasn't on the listed before on the things that would be received in the special edition pre-order, I'm willing to bet this was one of the usually cutting room floor things that they weren't going to be able to get into the game before it went gold, but it got finished before shipping, so it will now be added to the special editions. I'm willing to bet like all the other day 1 DLC's that BioWare has done, it isn't main content, so it doesn't matter.
Just be civilized, wait till you can afford it if for some reason you can't now(Why are you buying the game in the first place if you can't afford the DLC?), and then buy it.
This of course is going to be another one of those things that people are going to be pissed about because "boo-hoo, it's day 1 DLC".
It has been explained so many times in the past that it isn't even funny, but day 1 DLC isn't the end of the world and it isn't a bad thing. Considering that this DLC wasn't on the listed before on the things that would be received in the special edition pre-order, I'm willing to bet this was one of the usually cutting room floor things that they weren't going to be able to get into the game before it went gold, but it got finished before shipping, so it will now be added to the special editions. I'm willing to bet like all the other day 1 DLC's that BioWare has done, it isn't main content, so it doesn't matter.
Just be civilized, wait till you can afford it if for some reason you can't now(Why are you buying the game in the first place if you can't afford the DLC?), and then buy it.
for some odd reason, finland gets special treatment in the EU, cos the release date here is the 8th
yes... this post IS kinda off-topic
yes... this post IS kinda off-topic
This is starting to get annoying.
DA:O & ME2 : Bonus Char for New game
DA2 : Bonus Char if you preorder
ME3 : Bonus char if you buy a collector's edition that costs much more. >_>
DA:O & ME2 : Bonus Char for New game
DA2 : Bonus Char if you preorder
ME3 : Bonus char if you buy a collector's edition that costs much more. >_>
They are the things that launch you further into space I believe? I know the citadel is a massive one for the reapers or something.Srkkl said:
But like I've stated it's been a long time since I played Mass Effect and I don't really retain gaming knowledge like a sponge.
Gaah, it gets worse! I loved BioWare, I loved Mass Effect, why did EA have to EA the hell out of it? Online passes, coop mode in a single player game, broader "mass market appeal" with those bollocks choices to let the game handle conversations, stats and/or combat for you, DAY 1 DLC, all locked to an EA account, ONLY available on Origin.........GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH I HATE YOU EA!
I want to say more but all I will do is repeat myself. How EA could do this to a developer I've loved and supported financially for 15 years is tragic. ME3 will be the last game of theirs I'll buy (physical copy because it's not on Steam), only because I've been invested in it from before the takeover. I hate you EA for what you've done to Mass Effect, to BioWare and to the games industry. You've finally tied with Activision in my eyes for the top spot for arsehole publishers (letting ubisoft move up into EA's former #2 position).
I want to say more but all I will do is repeat myself. How EA could do this to a developer I've loved and supported financially for 15 years is tragic. ME3 will be the last game of theirs I'll buy (physical copy because it's not on Steam), only because I've been invested in it from before the takeover. I hate you EA for what you've done to Mass Effect, to BioWare and to the games industry. You've finally tied with Activision in my eyes for the top spot for arsehole publishers (letting ubisoft move up into EA's former #2 position).
Yes it damned well is. Day 1 DLC is only there to hurt the used games market. It should be in the damned game from day 1, not on sale seperately.Sonic Doctor said:
You make a game, like Bethesda did with Skyrim. ALL your dev team work on the game to make it as great as can be. You plan future ideas for dlc/expansions and AFTER the game is released, you move the dev team over to patches/bugfixes and dlc/expansions. THAT is how it works. Day 1 DLC is ALWAYS evil and money grabbing and wrong. Always, with zero exceptions or arguments for.
Um, you mean something as small as the entire plot of both games. Not knowing about the Protheans is like playing through Dragon Age and not knowing the darkspawn exist. Are you sure you've actually played Mass Effect and haven't got it confused with some other game?JasonBurnout16 said:
On topic, yeah, fuck EA right in the ear. Mass Effect hasn't been a bad couple of games, but it's not so great that I can't do without the next one. Given what they did to Dragon Age 2, I doubt I'll be missing all that much anyone.
To be fair, it's not just there to hurt used games. It's there to hurt everyone. If it was only used games they were targeting, it would be free to everyone who buys new and would just require buying a code or something if you don't. As it is, charging every single person, regardless of where and when they bought the game, is just a blatant attempt to squeeze every penny they can out of theirKingsGambit said:
Posting my thoughts in a Wall of text, be warned man.
Firstly going to post what has been said by the developer to use as a frame of reference, I heard there was a follow up post somewhere but the thread this was originally in exploded with comments and couldn't find the secondary post.
Now going by this it was stated that it was done by a seperate team and was only ready long after the game went into production (The actual final build and disc manufacture, not design time, etc) but wasn't this Squad Mate announced almost a year ago, around the May 2011 area? If the character has no significant impact on the story, something I will bring up later, then why did it take say roughly 12 months time to make. [This is a very rough guess, assuming it was started before May so it could be announced and has yet to be finished?] The other reason alot of people are upset is due to the stigma of Day 1 DLC which has in the past, even with BioWare games like Warden's Keep in DA:O, added content to the game that can directly involve the storyline. Don't get me wrong Warden's Keep was a very small dungeon but it did give you new powers, new armor, and a new weapon that could directly affect your playthrough.
The part where I scratch my head is that the squad member is a Prothen. If Michael's comment is to be believed the character is to have no impact on the storyline and so the DLC is not a required by to get the full story, but my reaction is more 'how is that possible?'. For those of you who don't know, the Protheans were an organic race that lived 50,000 years in the past from the current Mass Effect timeline and who were systematically wiped out by the Reaper swarms. That in and of itself is a problem as the only Prothean outpost alive after the reapers left was Ilos and all the protheans there eventually died from starvation after being brought back from cryostasis. The protheans who are stated to be smart enough to build Mass Relays and the likes also state they know one prothean or even a dozen remaining won't bring about a new population and so don't even try, so why was this one lone prothean put into cryo by himself? [This is speculation, naturally we won't know the full story until release.] The other major problem is that the Protheans are the entire and only reason these three games exist in the first place, had they not altered their cycle ever so slightly, the galaxy would have been under reaper invasion right after the title card came up.
To put it more simply, bringing even one member of an extinct race who is at the very least 50,000 years old and who is so monumentally important to the game back, was always going to cause rage. Not only does it seem like the fans are being exploited, after all it is stated this was made for the fans yet most fans are the ones shredding it apart, but to put a price tag of 10 dollars on a DLC [with an extremely rare squadmember, whose race is the single most important one in the universe, and yet who has no meaningful impact on the story and some new skins] really doesn't help the case of making it look less like a cash grab.
Now as for myself personally, and I know alot of people won't share the same opinion, but why is the last Prothean in existence Jamaican? It doesn't make me feel for the character, I can't help but immediatly throw him into the same pile with the Sons of Sandin in Saints Row 2, or Little Jacob in GTA 4. If the character is meant to be unserious and add levity its one thing, but so far the entire marketing and point behind Mass Effect 3 has been it is a dark, bitter world on the edge of oblivion. Its really a bad stereotype from me indeed, but the character's audio lines seem absurd and laughable, in the sense they are bad as opposed to actually funny. Again I know not everyone will share my point of view but I just wanted to give it.
Now people could argue that I don't have to get the character to play the full storyline, buts its a Prothean. That single fact means it has to be important to the stroy, if not then why not just make it a Zaaed 2.0, or a new Geth Platform, or a Batarian, or something that seems it could fit without breaking the lore of this carefully crafted universe. This is also the main reason so many people are angry (According to much of the postings, though I couldn't go through all of it, I would be here all week if that were the case x.x) that the single most important race in the galaxy has a squad member that you can't have unless you get a Collecters Edition (DDE) or pay 10 dollars for the right to play it.
Really I don't expect anyone from Bioware to respond back to me, but I just wanted to clarify why I personally think this DLC is a very bad idea. Naturally others see this as the coolest thing ever and that is their right to have that opinion. Also just to note I already pre-bought the N7 Collector's Edition many moons again, so I am speaking from the perspective of someone that was always going to get this character anyways.
Thank you for your time,
Setch Dreskar
Firstly going to post what has been said by the developer to use as a frame of reference, I heard there was a follow up post somewhere but the thread this was originally in exploded with comments and couldn't find the secondary post.
[As a note this is highly opinionated, this is not objective discussion as we simply don't know enough about the character's storyline, this is mainly speculation based on what we have found so far and my thoughts why I hate the entire idea of this DLC.]
Now going by this it was stated that it was done by a seperate team and was only ready long after the game went into production (The actual final build and disc manufacture, not design time, etc) but wasn't this Squad Mate announced almost a year ago, around the May 2011 area? If the character has no significant impact on the story, something I will bring up later, then why did it take say roughly 12 months time to make. [This is a very rough guess, assuming it was started before May so it could be announced and has yet to be finished?] The other reason alot of people are upset is due to the stigma of Day 1 DLC which has in the past, even with BioWare games like Warden's Keep in DA:O, added content to the game that can directly involve the storyline. Don't get me wrong Warden's Keep was a very small dungeon but it did give you new powers, new armor, and a new weapon that could directly affect your playthrough.
The part where I scratch my head is that the squad member is a Prothen. If Michael's comment is to be believed the character is to have no impact on the storyline and so the DLC is not a required by to get the full story, but my reaction is more 'how is that possible?'. For those of you who don't know, the Protheans were an organic race that lived 50,000 years in the past from the current Mass Effect timeline and who were systematically wiped out by the Reaper swarms. That in and of itself is a problem as the only Prothean outpost alive after the reapers left was Ilos and all the protheans there eventually died from starvation after being brought back from cryostasis. The protheans who are stated to be smart enough to build Mass Relays and the likes also state they know one prothean or even a dozen remaining won't bring about a new population and so don't even try, so why was this one lone prothean put into cryo by himself? [This is speculation, naturally we won't know the full story until release.] The other major problem is that the Protheans are the entire and only reason these three games exist in the first place, had they not altered their cycle ever so slightly, the galaxy would have been under reaper invasion right after the title card came up.
To put it more simply, bringing even one member of an extinct race who is at the very least 50,000 years old and who is so monumentally important to the game back, was always going to cause rage. Not only does it seem like the fans are being exploited, after all it is stated this was made for the fans yet most fans are the ones shredding it apart, but to put a price tag of 10 dollars on a DLC [with an extremely rare squadmember, whose race is the single most important one in the universe, and yet who has no meaningful impact on the story and some new skins] really doesn't help the case of making it look less like a cash grab.
Now as for myself personally, and I know alot of people won't share the same opinion, but why is the last Prothean in existence Jamaican? It doesn't make me feel for the character, I can't help but immediatly throw him into the same pile with the Sons of Sandin in Saints Row 2, or Little Jacob in GTA 4. If the character is meant to be unserious and add levity its one thing, but so far the entire marketing and point behind Mass Effect 3 has been it is a dark, bitter world on the edge of oblivion. Its really a bad stereotype from me indeed, but the character's audio lines seem absurd and laughable, in the sense they are bad as opposed to actually funny. Again I know not everyone will share my point of view but I just wanted to give it.
Now people could argue that I don't have to get the character to play the full storyline, buts its a Prothean. That single fact means it has to be important to the stroy, if not then why not just make it a Zaaed 2.0, or a new Geth Platform, or a Batarian, or something that seems it could fit without breaking the lore of this carefully crafted universe. This is also the main reason so many people are angry (According to much of the postings, though I couldn't go through all of it, I would be here all week if that were the case x.x) that the single most important race in the galaxy has a squad member that you can't have unless you get a Collecters Edition (DDE) or pay 10 dollars for the right to play it.
Really I don't expect anyone from Bioware to respond back to me, but I just wanted to clarify why I personally think this DLC is a very bad idea. Naturally others see this as the coolest thing ever and that is their right to have that opinion. Also just to note I already pre-bought the N7 Collector's Edition many moons again, so I am speaking from the perspective of someone that was always going to get this character anyways.
Thank you for your time,
Setch Dreskar
I will now forever associate Protheans with this [link]www.rastamouse.com[/link]Soviet Heavy said:
I really, really hope the character doesn't actually sounds like this. It is ridiculous.
Even so, we're kind of side stepping the real issue, which is that the voice doesn't, for me at least, suit the character at all.wicket42 said:
I was thinking they'd have a voice more akin to the Hanar, owing their quite alien nature.
It's $10 for those who didn't preorder the CE you guys...
Oh wait I get why you're mad. You'll have trouble explaining to your mom why you need 10 more dollars.
Fucking entitled little children. And bitching about the voice acting already. Seriously...
Oh wait I get why you're mad. You'll have trouble explaining to your mom why you need 10 more dollars.
Fucking entitled little children. And bitching about the voice acting already. Seriously...
Hevva said:
Hahaha I love this. Nice, preposterous voice acting. I was a little peeved by this day one dlc, but this video has made me more likely to part with my cash. Unfortunately things like day 1 dlc are going to be more and more recurrent. I've accepted this fact a long time back and therefore judge all dlc as if they were separate game; so I will read reviews on dlc content and then judge as to whether or not I think it will actually add to my game. So weapon and character skins are pretty much a no no and as for extra characters, well, it depends on their relevance and how hungry I am for more upon completion of the game. He may be a Prothean, but will he (it) really add to my single player experience, or will he (it) just be another Zaeed or Kasumi with nothing interesting to add to my single player experience?
