What's the difference between a D-Pad and a full keyboard anyway?Frostbite3789 said:The amount of rage console only gamers have over this never ceases to amuse me.
As someone who has played on both console and PC for years, "Project $10" is nothing new. It just goes by another name in PC games called a "CD key". Even games on Steam use keys, you just don't have to input them, that game you bought is still tied to a key.
Gears of War 3 lets you play online completely without an online pass. I bought the game new on day of release, and I didn't have to download anything to go online with it.DRes82 said:Is this surprising? A company requiring you to actually buy their product to use it completely? Is there any multiplayer game out recently that lets you play online with a cracked or second hand version?
I can't think of one.
What...the hell are you talking about? What did that have to do with my post?vxicepickxv said:What's the difference between a D-Pad and a full keyboard anyway?Frostbite3789 said:The amount of rage console only gamers have over this never ceases to amuse me.
As someone who has played on both console and PC for years, "Project $10" is nothing new. It just goes by another name in PC games called a "CD key". Even games on Steam use keys, you just don't have to input them, that game you bought is still tied to a key.
There are some games on Steam that require you to put in MULTIPLE keys. See Blood Bowl. Or better yet, don't. It's not really that good.
Well that's your job as the consumer. When you find a product you want to buy, you're supposed to ask yourself, "Do I want this bad enough to buy now?", "Do I try to find a cheaper alternative by looking for another similar product or go somewhere else where it might cost less?", or "Do I wait and buy it later when they decide to drop the price?" If you want this game badly enough (like I do), then buy the game new and be happy. If you're so financially strapped that you can't afford it, then figure out how to buy the game cheap and live with the consequences that came with your decision.ChromaticWolfen said:Not everyone can buy the game new. That's the problem. If you don't have the money you will have to wait nearly 5 months for the game. Then you find out you need to spend even more money.
Isn't that what they've been trying to do all along?ChromaticWolfen said:OT: I wish publishers and developers would stop doing this. It's really going to hurt the second hand game market.
Xanthious said:Someone should start up a website where people who don't play online can post their unused online pass codes so people that buy it used don't have to take it up the ass from this bullshit. Hell if I had more time and a larger degree of web design ability I'd do it myself. I mean think about it, there has to be a ton of these codes that go totally unused. If you could start gathering these unused codes and give them away for free or selling them for say half the amount with a bit of exposure you could really start to stick it to companies like EA.
Seventh Actuality said:Online passes are a great idea. If you want to pay a reduced price, you get a reduced product, and no amount of parroted Jimquisition quotes are going to convince me it's wrong.
It's not actual multiplayer, it's a co-op campaign which can affect your actual single-player campaign.Irridium said:Yeah, fuck you EA.
Used sales are not your enemy you idiots. Mass Effect is already a hugely popular game series. People LOVE Mass Effect. People LOVE Bioware. Everyone who really wants it is buying it new, you will get no good amount of money from used sales. It's pointless, stupid, and a waste of everyone's time.
The people who bought Mass Effect used and liked it have most likely bought ME2 new, and are going to buy this new.
And all used copies on shelves have been bought. You've seen money from those copies. They are no longer yours. Used sales have a legal right to exist, and it's the ONE fucking benefit customers get from this system you and many other Publishers benefit from daily, and you want to take even that away from us, or try to stick your dicks into it any way you can.
And what, are multiplayer servers that expensive you must charge even more money for them? Well, here's an idea, DON'T PUT MULTIPLAYER INTO EVERYTHING YOU IDIOTS!
And if SO MANY people are buying used that it's really hurting you so much, perhaps that's a sign to not try and charge them, but to lower your god damn prices so they CAN buy new. EA, you said the $60 price point was something that the industry had to change soon. You said that in 2007. Here we are in 2011, and you haven't done jack shit to fix the problem, and instead have just bitched about used sales.
In any other industry if nobody is buying a product new, they lower the price so more people can buy it new. Why you're so against this I really don't know, but maybe you should do that. Sure, you could stay in your fantasy-land world where everyone should buy new and those who can't buy new should go without, or you can return to the real world where people are buying used because they can't afford new, and reduce your damn prices so they can buy new. It doesn't matter how "right" you are, if people aren't willing or able to buy new, you need to lower your prices so they can and will buy new.