Mass Effect 3's Ending Was Intended To Polarize

[dreadedcandiru99]

Its just a bunch of people who have a sad that Shepard actually fucking dies at the end of her trilogy.

Sorry not everything is shit rainbows and vomit skittles in magic fairy wonderland, but sometimes shit just doesn't end that way.

That said; they ought to at least put something in to detail the outcome of the player's choices throughout the game. Other than that the endings were good; leave them alone.

Here, this should make things clearer for you. [http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/]

Thanks I was just getting ready to post that myself.
I really don't understand how anyone can think the ending is good.
It doesn't make any sense in the context of the rest of the series.
It doesn't even make sense in its own internal logic.

Like I said over here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.353910-Poll-What-if-ME3-had-a-fourth-ending-option-SPOILERS], a simple "refuse" option might have redeemed it. But no, instead I have to look to the Internet for a satisfactory ending.

Mission accomplished, Casey Hudson: I definitely will not forget this.

 

[Animyr]

Look, I've been forgiving of bioware in the past. I'm not someone that rages every time the game fudges something. And I haven't actually seen the endings. But from the opinions I've seen....it's over before it even started, Hudson. Nobody's buying it. Not even me.

What's worse is that from what I hear this ending was only cooked up in the last few months. Smooth, guys.

 

[Something Amyss]

Sniff, sniff... I smell false advertising! Especially that marketing phrase about you not being forced into choosing an A, B or C ending regardless of your choices? That was a very specific lie.
Not like that it's uncommon in the industry. Remember Pete Hines lying about Skyrim on PS3?

It's especially funny because they delivered EXACTLY what they said they wouldn't.

Unfortunately, people have become so complacent they're now okay with outright lies in advertisement.

 

[Ishigami]

Of course he does. What else is there that he could say without jeopardizing his paycheck at the current stage?
Di I believe he is telling the truth? Hell no!

The endings suck.
Reasons were given enough in this topic suffice it to say I had tons of fun up until I reached the beam to the Citadel and then it went to shit.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Look, no matter how hard you try to justify it reducing all the previous decisions you've made into nothing since you can just press a fucking button to get the ending you want is HORRIBLE design especially when a mass majority of people strongly dislike all of the endings you've made.

 

[Karathos]

In every single article about this situation, some dolt always has to post "LOL GET OVER IT THEY WERE EXCELLENT." Sure, you are entitled to your opinion - but if "riddled with plotholes and nonsensical themes that completely contradict everything the other media has established" equals "excellent" then I'm not sure I want to be part of the video game industry anymore.

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

That's already been posted in this thread, but I'll post it again so people see the URL name and realise what the article on Gamefront is about.

It's about the truth. It's about fact. Right now, the ending doesn't work at all.

And I will have your goddamn quads on a stick if you pointlessly raised my hopes with "The Truth" DLC stuff.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I think this new and improved ending is better...

http://youtu.be/yctgK5DJJPA

But that's just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around.

That's much better they should use that.

What annoys me is that people think the death of Shepard is the reason that people think it's bad...NO.

It's bad because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Also the alternate endings consist of a copy pasted different coloured beam for each one.

The biggest problem I have with it is that everyone you gathered is stranded in the sol system. The Quarians are literally on the other side of the galaxy from their newly recovered homeworld... and your friends (some of which are supposed to be dead or on Earth) and Joker are stranded on some god forsaken jungle planet.

What the hell. Just what the hell.

 

[aaronobst]

Perhaps they could have polarized us in a way that wasn't shit.

It's not the protagonist's death that pisses us off. Infamous 2 for example had an incredible ending

 

[PingoBlack]

God, I'm actually glad Bioware isn't working on a Jade Empire 2 or Knights of the Old Republic 3.

Too late ...
KotOR 3 got some multiplayer tacked on and given a new name: SW:toR.

 

[sumanoskae]

One of the many problems (Among it's many virtues, IMO) the ending has is that it doesn't seem to understand the difference between tragedy and cruelty.

Sure, you can interpret (That's never a good sign, artistic mediums should speak for themselves) the endings is a few ways, but unless you happen to be the most optimistic being in existence, not much happiness can spring forth from that mess. I find it's very difficult to interpret something into a tragedy, because tragedy by it's nature requires events beyond our ability to foresee and prevent.

So if they were trying to make people feel like shit, then they did that, but if they expected people to find some sort of ironic beauty in the situation, they undercut it by not allowing people to grasp the full situation

 

[IamLEAM1983]

Some people do indeed want their Shepard to emerge victorious and to get the girl and the adoration of trillions, yeah. Plenty of other ME fans, however, are more concerned with closure. This is what matters most, I think, and this is what ME3 doesn't quite deliver.

I think the best example is Thane. In the second game, you can opt to participate in a pretty deep and personal exploration of the themes of death and its acceptance. You're seeing the point of view of a guy who's in a terminal condition and that has the expected moments of serene acceptance, and others where you can feel he's on the cusp of trying to bargain for something. His saving Kolyat certainly feels like that.

How this reflects in Mass Effect 3 is a simple two-minute conversation between Thane and Shepard, in which his character is pretty much summarized with variations on "I'm dying, but I'm okay with it."

Miranda has similar problems, in that her form of closure simply echoes what happened in the second game. Honestly, the only ones I thought received adequate closure were Mordin and Wrex. I don't mind one bit that Shepard dies or that his actions can have pretty serious consequences and I actually applaud BioWare for making self-sacrifice such a centerpiece of the scenario - but some of the threads left hanging are particularly muddled.

Thinking that the outrage is mostly a case of frustrated projecting gamers who didn't have their requested Gary Stu/Mary Sue ending is simplifying the problem. I'm perfectly fine with Shepard dying - and really dying, as well. I just don't get how anyone could interpret the post-credits scene as being a confirmation that Shepard survives.

 

[somonels]

Whether you are met with success or failure always claim it to have been the goal. Good job, EA, your course is as steady as ever.

 

[MurderousToaster]

Aaaah yes, the classic "Tommy Wiseau Parody Retcon" of "it sucks because it was intended all along" (This phenomena is being debated for a rename to "Stephani Meyer Parody Retcon" for the upcoming excuse for the Twilight series

As Yathzee said before: "If you want to smear yourself in shit to make an ironic statement then good for you but you still smell like shit"

Does this excuse the fact that the ending was badly written or that looks suspiciously similar to Deus Ex 1 by having 3 endings but ALSO having the Deus Ex Human Revolution "EndingTron" where you press a button to have an ending?

Not only does it have three endings, but

Spoiler

The endings are almost the exact same. You have the Illuminati ending - control Reapers, dominate galaxy. You have the Tracer Tong ending - destroy all synthetic life, universe plunged into dark age, and you also have a Helios-esque ending whereby synthetic and organic life merges. It's actually almost like the Bioware team had just finished Deus Ex when they were writing the endings.

 

[JakeNubbin]

Oh yeah they totally meant to piss off their fans, it was in the budget. Good lord, last five minutes of a thirty hour game really turns people off. If the team wanted to make a memorable ending we shouldn't hate them for it... hate is a strong word btw, we should be angry though that all three endings had every mass relay blown up. Good lord that's a horrible way to go. Every option is pretty much the same, we take control of the reapers, they are destroyed, or we join up with them. Thats pretty much the big decision here, there isn't any big decision besides that. Also, apparently, the citadel blew up, if we already didn't blow up every organic species ever then we blew up most of them.

Playing Mass Effect 1 2 and 3 over and over again doesn't matter in the end because a triple imported character has the same choices as some asshole that sped through the game. Oh wait, we have a slightly bigger ending where Joker and EDI hug. That's nice. Glad Garrus cant eat any of the food on this weird jungle planet. How the F*** did he even get on the Normandy, where is Liara and Ashley/Kaiden grrrgh whyyy. They need to expand the choices you can make at the ending and have it all make sense.

Hey, Bioware responded to the Dragon Age 2 hate by releasing two dlcs that made DA2 very similar to DAO in those two missions. So hey, they're going to fix this, they didint intend to piss off their fans, they didn't twirl their mustaches as they laughed manically, and they sure as hell didn't run out of ideas. Hell, the decision you make is a big idea, its a dumb one, but its there.

 

[T'Generalissimo]

I haven't played ME3, so I can't really speak to the endings, but if you did not like the ending and they release a DLC to change it, for fuck's sake do not buy it. Please. That is a precedent that really, really does not need to be set.

 

[Sexy Devil]

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[T3hSource]

Got the ending,I won't QQ or rage about it.I just won't think about it,I'm done with Mass Effect,it was a great experience,I'm glad it has finally come to an end,I don't think I'll have enough free time for a similar experience any time soon.

 

[Mantonio]

"We meant for it to be awful!"

Yeah, sure buddy. We believe you.

[link]http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/1/[/link]

 

[Slash Joel]

IT STILL SUCKED BIOWARE AND YOU MUST BE PUNISHED!!!! That was a joke.

But Yahtzee's idea of time travel with two big day labors with bats would be very apporiate with the writer who came up with the ending.