Mass Effect's Casey Hudson Will Leave BioWare

[grigjd3]

I'm in the act of playing through the ME games again and the only thing I can think is that there is something like 100+ hours of extremely entertaining gameplay here and then one hour of extremely boring gameplay. I consider myself fairly consistent, handling things quite well about 90% of the time. Thankfully (and honestly, this applies to everyone) the world is forgiving enough that I don't have to be perfect. I didn't like the ending to ME 3, but that's no reason for me to hate the guy.

 

[MirenBainesUSMC]

I'm glad I am in the company of the ME3 Old Rebellion. I bet some of you even got booted off the Bioware forums ( ha ha!)

Yes I think this dude just lost his go-go juice and probably called it a day. The wonderful architect whom not only botched the ending of what would have been the greatest inter-connected trilogy of RPG/Shooter games... but he also refused to correct his mistake in a bad PR fallout that got his studio crammed with color coded cup cakes, hate mail, and one bloody fight between Pro-ME3 Ending people vs Fix the Endings! players.

I still remember when I met the star child. I said to myself... " You know... there's not a lot left for Shepard to do since he's half toasted, limping, and only holding a pistol ( barely)... No it can't be...". And then I got the color codes.

Horrible ending. I disagree it wasn't just the 15 min of the ending either, it was as most said --- crappy side quests, characters killed through news feed texts, a glitchy follow through of past events, and a sort of a watering down on many levels.

Anyway this is bringing back some old wounds and many many many posts filled with vitriol from the bioware forums.

Let him run a hot dog stand in Montreal as far as I can say, and good riddance to you sir.

 

[MirenBainesUSMC]

Oh yeah ahem --- REMEMBER MARAUDER SHIELDS!!!!!!!

 

[white_wolf]

Was this the guy who decided to write the ending to mass effect 3 by himself

Eeeeeeyup.

Good riddance as far as I'm concerned.

This when I saw the new ME4 preview of him saying, " Trust us," I'm like, "nope." you made the worst ending I've seen to a game in many years the most nonsensical piece of crap and rewrote the goal of an entire trilogy in the last 5 minutes of a game trust isn't anything you should be asking me for. Him being gone is a plus. Well at least if ME4 go more southern then ME3 he has the silver lining of not being responsible.

 

[Wereduck]

Oh yeah ahem --- REMEMBER MARAUDER SHIELDS!!!!!!!

All hail Marauder Shields; he died trying to save us from the ME3 ending.

 

[bigfatcarp93]

Speak for yourself, dude I think I'll be doing much more remembering of his more worthwhile contributions. Kindly refrain from acting like your opinion is shared by the entire species under the pretense of "it's how our brains work", as though everyone's brains are identical.

I'll bring a fact.
You're thanking Mr Hudson fro bringing us awesome games, like ME, Baldur's Gate 1&2 and so on.

Do you know WHO is the man that funded Bioware to permet them to make this kind of games ?
You know him, everybody here know him...

It's John Riccitiello, the former EA CEO, at this time, it was the co-founder of Elevation Partners. He gave 400 milions of dollars to Bioware and Pandemic to make games !
Did you thanked him for funding this games when he was fired from EA ?

No, all you remember is the fact he was the EA CEO, no more ! It's the same for Casey Hudson. I think he didn't deserve all the attacks on him but what will be remembered of him is like a singer today: the last song. And Mr Hudson last song will depend of ME4, the more the game will be a success, the more he can be forgotten (and when i see the VG world, it's perhaps very good for him).

But Riccitiello isn't the same as Hudson: one was a creative lead, another just funneled money in. We don't have Riccitiello to thank for ME2 being awesome, ANY CEO could have made the same call in his shoes. Hudson made actual creative contributions that only he could have made (And agreed that Bishop should go).

Apples and oranges, dude.

 

[Rodolphe Kourkenko]

But Riccitiello isn't the same as Hudson: one was a creative lead, another just funneled money in. We don't have Riccitiello to thank for ME2 being awesome, ANY CEO could have made the same call in his shoes. Hudson made actual creative contributions that only he could have made (And agreed that Bishop should go).

Apples and oranges, dude.

"dude", if Riccitiello wasn't here, Bioware wouldn't had made any games like ME or Dragon Age. Apples and oranges, perhaps but you can say what you want it's Riccitiello that funded them, it's the case, it's part of their history. Without him, no ME. Period.

All i see is "Selective memory"... And it was stricly the point of my very first post.

 

[bigfatcarp93]

But Riccitiello isn't the same as Hudson: one was a creative lead, another just funneled money in. We don't have Riccitiello to thank for ME2 being awesome, ANY CEO could have made the same call in his shoes. Hudson made actual creative contributions that only he could have made (And agreed that Bishop should go).

Apples and oranges, dude.

"dude", if Riccitiello wasn't here, Bioware wouldn't had made any games like ME or Dragon Age. Apples and oranges, perhaps but you can say what you want it's Riccitiello that funded them, it's the case, it's part of their history. Without him, no ME. Period.

All i see is "Selective memory"... And it was stricly the point of my very first post.

I'm not saying he didn't play a role, I'm saying any other CEO could have just as easily done the same thing. And please don't mock the way I speak. I say dude, okay? It's just how I talk. If you don't like it, you don't have to read my posts.

 

[Rodolphe Kourkenko]

I'm not saying he didn't play a role, I'm saying any other CEO could have just as easily done the same thing. And please don't mock the way I speak. I say dude, okay? It's just how I talk. If you don't like it, you don't have to read my posts.

Since you're quoting me and i got message from it, i can't escape reading you.
It wasn't another CEO, you'll not rewrite history, it was Riccitiello. Period. Perhaps another one would had do the same thing but it was him.

My first question remain : Did you thanked him when he was fired ? No of course, like me and ten of thousands other. And yes, i'm not better than anyone else, i'm not an exception and will not pretend anything else.

It's Selective memory. The more Hudson will be remembered only for the ME3 mess the more ME4 is a success. It's the way it'll work, if this displease you i can't do nothing, nor anybody else.
I'v nothing more to say.

 

[N7pirate]

Besides... Casey Hudson is not the war criminal people make him out to be. He is responsible for a great deal of Mass Effect, the good and the bad. I say he was a positive influence overall.

Really, the details like dialogue and the various story/character arcs that make up the games were crafted by the various writers on the team. Hudson would be primarily responsible for the "bigger picture" things, and if I'm being perfectly honest the main arcs of all three Mass Effect games have been less than stellar.

In the original Mass Effect, there's the roundabout plan to discover the secrets of Ilos and the Conduit when Saren could have simply ignored the beacon on Eden Prime and used his privileges and contacts as a Spectre to get to the Citadel's controls. The Citadel would have been defenseless when Sovereign arrived to hijack their systems, since no one would know that there was any reason to worry.

Mass Effect 2 was thankfully a step up, despite how the transition from ME1's lore and mechanics wasn't entirely smooth, but the humanoid Reaper at the end? So very dumb.

Finally, Mass Effect 3 had the Crucible arc. 'nuff said there.[/quote.



I know I very late to the post but regarding how you said the humanoid reaper was dumb, in my opinion it was actually pretty realistic and makes since. I forgot where it was, it might have been the leviathan dlc for me3 but they said the reapers harvest the selected species to make a new reaper. Because they don't see it as killing of the population more of rebirthing it