Matter /CAN/ be created!
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This, though is not complicated math, it's highschool math or Calculus 101 of a math based career depending on how much a nerd you are and how good are your teachers.Rabid Toilet said:
Comparatively this is much more advanced math:
It uses abstract algebra in topology to give us a way to duplicate anything that is topologicaly equivalent of a ballisometry said:The Banach-Tarski paradox comes much closer to "creating matter from nothing", but of course it doesn't apply either since matter consists of discrete particles, not an uncountable continuum.
Though at it's heart IMO is just a very creative and very funny way to play with the axiom of choice which simply states that "you can grab an object from a non empty bag" but implies stuff like "the real numbers can be numbered using only natural numbers" which is AWESOMESAUCE!
All this shows is that maths and decimal points are not an absolutely precise science.
Now can people please stop posting this. It's not new or clever.
Now can people please stop posting this. It's not new or clever.
Where you say 1/3 and 2/3 are equal to .333 and .666 You're actually incorrectRJ 17 said:Alright, many of you have probably seen this before, but for those of you who haven't: get ready for some mathematical magic as I show you an old trick I learned back in highschool to algerbraeicly (spelling) prove that 0.999repeating actually = 1 by itself.
Start with x = 0.999rep
x = 0.999rep
Multiply both sides of the equation by 10
10x = 9.999rep
Subtract x from both sides.
9x = 9 (10x - x = 9x, 9.999rep - x (which was originally stated as = 0.999rep) = 9)
Divide both sides by 9
x = 1
You can also do this with fractions and logic.
1/3 as a fraction is equal to 0.333rep
2/3 as a fraction is equal to 0.666rep
3/3 as a fraction SHOULD equal 0.999rep....but as a fraction, having three thirds of something means you've got the whole thing, which equates to 1.
(on a side not...the Captcha required to post this contained the word "deleted" spelled backwards and upsidedown...what in god's name am I supposed to do there? (cycled through it) )
You see 1/3 is .3 reoccurring 4, which means, in the end it is 1/3
While .666 is .6 reoccurring 7, which means in the end it is 2/3
Therefore when you add them together it forms 3/3 or 1
As for your first equation, very interesting, maths does have some flaws in itself after all
But you probably found that on some website, these kinds of equations are very common
Edit: Just realized . reoccurring is 1, it's not like .333reoccurring or .666reoccurring
How did I forget that, either way your equation is correct for that reason
Any number trailing with reoccurring 9's is equal to the number above. in the case of 2.9999rep:
x=2.999rep
10x=29.999rep
9x=27
x=27/9
x=3
this works because 0.0...01=0. Because of this fact, 10*.99999...=9.99999.... Otherwise, 10*.99999... wouldn't equal 9.9999999...
That's all the depth I'm going into because I'm sick of explaining this.
Besides, even if there was a problem with mathematics, it wouldn't say anything about the universe because mathematics is a construct based on logic i.e. the laws of the universe, not the other way round.
x=2.999rep
10x=29.999rep
9x=27
x=27/9
x=3
this works because 0.0...01=0. Because of this fact, 10*.99999...=9.99999.... Otherwise, 10*.99999... wouldn't equal 9.9999999...
That's all the depth I'm going into because I'm sick of explaining this.
Besides, even if there was a problem with mathematics, it wouldn't say anything about the universe because mathematics is a construct based on logic i.e. the laws of the universe, not the other way round.
I'd just like to say, Well played OP. Well played.
However, beyond a flamewar this thread has no discussion value.
However, beyond a flamewar this thread has no discussion value.
here i was thinking that i could read something new, and all i got was this retarded drivelRJ 17 said:
First of all you .99rep x 10= .99(infinite 9's)0 not all 9's.RJ 17 said:
Second the captcha only ever has one word that you have to type, the other is just random and you can type anything in its place. The real words never have punctuation and are always in the same font.
I'm not a mathematics student so this is not really my field, but I think this logic is kind of incorrect.RJ 17 said:Alright, many of you have probably seen this before, but for those of you who haven't: get ready for some mathematical magic as I show you an old trick I learned back in highschool to algerbraeicly (spelling) prove that 0.999repeating actually = 1 by itself.
Start with x = 0.999rep
x = 0.999rep
Multiply both sides of the equation by 10
10x = 9.999rep
Subtract x from both sides.
9x = 9 (10x - x = 9x, 9.999rep - x (which was originally stated as = 0.999rep) = 9)
Divide both sides by 9
x = 1
You can also do this with fractions and logic.
1/3 as a fraction is equal to 0.333rep
2/3 as a fraction is equal to 0.666rep
3/3 as a fraction SHOULD equal 0.999rep....but as a fraction, having three thirds of something means you've got the whole thing, which equates to 1.
(0.333_ + 0.333_ + 0.333_)= 3*(1/3) = 1. (0.333_ + 0.333_ + 0.333_)^infinity = 1.
But I would presume (0.999_)^infinity != 1.
1/3 does not = .333
2/3 does not = .666
3/3 does not = 1, it simply rounds the infinitely regressing up to give a whole number for convenience.
2/3 does not = .666
3/3 does not = 1, it simply rounds the infinitely regressing up to give a whole number for convenience.
No, no it can't this isn't even related to mass/energy conservation at all this is just a fucking dodgy proof of why in Maths 0.99.. recurring is equivalent to 1. At least use one of the fucking good proofs of this concept and not the shitty dodgy one.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-innocent-sounding-topics-that-are-guaranteed-flame-wars/
Look at number three.
They even took an example from the Escapist.
I'm not getting into these arguments, I don't see a point.
Look at number three.
They even took an example from the Escapist.
I'm not getting into these arguments, I don't see a point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_production
Creating matter happens all the time. Creating matter FROM NOTHING is the tricky part.
Creating matter happens all the time. Creating matter FROM NOTHING is the tricky part.
Like Airplane on a Treadmill this topic should really be banned.
There is a clear, proven, and accepted answer on this. 0.999... = 1. Like 1+1=2 it is slightly higher end mathematics, but the answer is clear.
There is no discussion to be had, and so, in my opinion, these threads break the forum rules.
I've had threads locked for low discussion value before that had many times more content than this.
There is a clear, proven, and accepted answer on this. 0.999... = 1. Like 1+1=2 it is slightly higher end mathematics, but the answer is clear.
There is no discussion to be had, and so, in my opinion, these threads break the forum rules.
I've had threads locked for low discussion value before that had many times more content than this.