AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835281 said:
McCain actually has the potential to do something.
Obama just waves his hand like a celeberity. Couldn't they have at least gotten someone like Brad Pitt to do that? Hell it'd be like electing the same man...
On a fair note, the reason people despise Bush and McCain is because they fail to see the good accomplished by the Bush administration. We took an enemy that wanted to attack us and moved the target from our homeland to a location in the Middle East. Sorry that we don't have time to spend money on "social programs" due to an economy that was bound to collapse regardless if we had gone to war, when the previous administration failed to properly take care of the leftovers Bush had to deal with.
So what if he did lie?
You'd stutter too if you had so many countries which wished to wipe your country off the face of the earth without justification.
Watch the BBC documentary "The Power of Nightmares". 3 Part series tells full history of the neo-cons and al-qaida. You have been lied to quite a lot, for quite a long time.
McCain will continue to lie. He will 'Bomb bomb Iran'. People like you may even call out for him to do it, as the White House pumps out fear-mongering reports. The world will be a sh*ttier place.
The concept that America is a nation with a unique destiny - to be the force for good and freedom in the world, where evil enemies threaten its very existence and must be defeated - is an invented one. Developed by the pre-neo-con political philosopher Leonard Strauss, as he believed the people of a nation required a mythological element to their identity, to give ordinary people a sense of purpose, a collective destiny, in order to provide social cohesion and order, to combat the excesses of liberalism; the truth need only be known by the intellectual ruling class, who apparently guide America towards its global manifest destiny. Look into your own history, this myth is less than 60 years old. The notion that Al-Qaida is a mafia like organisation with sleeper cells in over 50 countries, is similarly a false invention, devised after the first WTC bombing so that Bin Laden could be prosecuted in his absence back in the 90's - a false invention which stuck, since it gives us an identifiable enemy. The real threat, the real Al-Qaida is the ideology which creates suicide bombers, and the Western World has entirely failed to combat that. Probably because bombing people does not really bring them round to your way of thinking.
The rhetoric being used today by governments around the world, not just the bush administration closely resembles that used by Reagan and the neo-cons in the 1980's, after the falsified CIA reports were used to justify greater military spending (Star Wars - bad joke).
Similarly, until the Monica Lewinsky business (boy did Billy f*ck up there) the sh*t dished out in the news about him being corrupt - having ludicrous numbers of sexual partners, using drugs while in office - were all false. A hack journalist was paid a LOT of money on behalf of a neo-con thinktank to assemble a team to dig up dirt and make stories where there was none.
Democrats lie as well as the Republicans, the difference is: when the Republicans lie, they lie BIG. War big. Its not like Obama is going to change the world, or put everything to rights, but surely its got to be better than another old white Republican.
On a slight tangent: The only two republics in the history of the world which have risen to position of no.1 world power are those of the USA and Rome. It took two generations for Rome to change from Republic to Empire, elected Senate to hereditary Monarchy. Worth remembering.
Apologies for length.
