ME3 extended cut. Optimistic?

[Vegosiux]

I just personally think that there's a combination of EA hate (which has somehow overtaken Activision's place as most hated publisher) and a predisposition to hate the game no matter what.
Examples:

1. Multiplayer: when announced the vocal fandom raged.
2. Kinect Funcitonality: when announced the fandom raged, again.
3. Gameplay choice (Narrative/RPG/Action-shooter): Rage, fans, again.
4. Prothean DLC: When announced after gold the fandom raged, yet again.

See where I'm going? Nothing's good enough, and no matter what happened, despite the game being solid all the way through up to the ending (and yes I liked the WHOLE game), you were still going to hate it. And now even with a supposed Wrap-Up DLC on the way you will probably hate that too.

Yes, I see where you're going. You ass-pulled the assumption that it was "people hatin' no matter what". Has it occured to you that maybe, just maybe, it was different people complaining about the different issues?

You know, Little Timmy might have been quite excited for the MP, but then raged about day 1 DLC? While I, for example, raged about MP, didn't give a fuck about Kinect, felt a bit "Wait, what purpose does that serve that can't be done otherwise?" about gameplay choice, headdesked about day 1 DLC, and ultimately decided against buying the game when it was clear it was gonna be Origin exclusive.

 

[NiPah]

I just hope everyone throws a shit storm so that Bioware and EA are guilted into giving us more free stuff.

 

[killerguythefox]

Most simple answer no never will i some of it may be good like what happens to who ever now in the game and how your actions effect things but as for the horrible ending they are trying to justify? a big no here

 

[Noble_Lance]

You all do release there are going to be more games after Shepard's story has ended right? Trust me on that more will be explained in say another cycle.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

nope.avi

In fact I'm expecting it to be even shittier, because they're not doing what we want, i.e. declare that Starchild "logic" motherfuckery non-canon and completely fix all the shit parts of ME3. Instead they're gonna make an "extended cut" which is just polishing the monumental turd that was shat into our faces.

 

[RatRace123]

Not really, kinda neutral on the whole thing.

I mean, I think that the ending sucked, and that it was painfully stupid. But, if this DLC adds more clarity and closure then, I'll be satisfied enough to let the matter rest. It won't make the ending any better mind you, but you take what you can get.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

I just personally think that there's a combination of EA hate (which has somehow overtaken Activision's place as most hated publisher) and a predisposition to hate the game no matter what.
Examples:

1. Multiplayer: when announced the vocal fandom raged.
2. Kinect Funcitonality: when announced the fandom raged, again.
3. Gameplay choice (Narrative/RPG/Action-shooter): Rage, fans, again.
4. Prothean DLC: When announced after gold the fandom raged, yet again.

See where I'm going? Nothing's good enough, and no matter what happened, despite the game being solid all the way through up to the ending (and yes I liked the WHOLE game), you were still going to hate it. And now even with a supposed Wrap-Up DLC on the way you will probably hate that too.

Yes, I see where you're going. You ass-pulled the assumption that it was "people hatin' no matter what". Has it occured to you that maybe, just maybe, it was different people complaining about the different issues?

You know, Little Timmy might have been quite excited for the MP, but then raged about day 1 DLC? While I, for example, raged about MP, didn't give a fuck about Kinect, felt a bit "Wait, what purpose does that serve that can't be done otherwise?" about gameplay choice, headdesked about day 1 DLC, and ultimately decided against buying the game when it was clear it was gonna be Origin exclusive.

I didn't say anywhere that all groups are linked. Just saying the deck was already stacked against ME3 coming out as anything but a hated game by a vocal majority.

I remember a favorite writer of mine said the majority of letters/e-mail from people are negative whenever he writes a new book that takes beloved characters on a different direction. But he also said something to the effect that the sales of those books were astronomically higher than the hate mail numbers, and those who wrote in to praise his work were usually short thank you letters.

In other words, you all have every right in the world to harp, *****, moan, complain and otherwise hate on Mass Effect 3. Just don't think you're entitled to something just because you're a fan, especially since (as you pointed out so astutely) not everyone will agree on what is the best ending for the game just as they're doing now.

The rest of us who like it and are actually vocal enough to say we liked it aren't saying you don't have the right to hate it. Just you've nothing you can do about it.

CAPTCHA: start from scratch

See even Lord Inglip is telling you to LET IT GO!

 

[dreadedcandiru99]

there is no way they can fix the damage and leave in starchild and space magic

Basically this. The "Extended Cut" thing, as it stands, is essentially EA/Bioware offering to spoon an extra dollop of dogshit onto our $60 dogshit sundae. Yes, the extra shit is free, but I doubt the taste will be improved.

I'm hoping to have completely gotten over the ME series by the time it hits, though. Between Civilization V and Journey, I think I'm nearly there.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

I just love that so many people think they're publishers or writers with accomplishments beyond an A in English or 3.2 on their last computer science course....

Sarcasm aside, fans get it through your head that ME3 ended the way it did, Bioware did what they did and any changes after said fact are meaningless to you and will not change your perception of the game or Bioware.
Face it, you hate the game because it has EA stamped on it, you deny the fact that the previous two games had basically the SAME ending no matter what you did in gameplay beyond a minor plot choice (ME1: Council saved/killed, ME2: Collectors base destroyed/handed over to Cerberus).
But nothing in those two games ever changes the ending enough to really affect it and the SAME thing happened in ME3.
What you're missing is the narrative in between is what changes not the ending.
I'm sorry you felt betrayed, or didn't like it or thought you didn't get your moneys worth but in the end its not your game. You payed to play it, like you pay to watch a movie. And you don't get your money back if you sit through the movie and it sucks or play through the game and don't like how it ends. And you certainly have no right to tell the writers/publishers/developers to change that.
Do something constructive, go out and make a better game since a number of you seem to think you can.
I just personally think that there's a combination of EA hate (which has somehow overtaken Activision's place as most hated publisher) and a predisposition to hate the game no matter what.
Examples:

1. Multiplayer: when announced the vocal fandom raged.
2. Kinect Funcitonality: when announced the fandom raged, again.
3. Gameplay choice (Narrative/RPG/Action-shooter): Rage, fans, again.
4. Prothean DLC: When announced after gold the fandom raged, yet again.

See where I'm going? Nothing's good enough, and no matter what happened, despite the game being solid all the way through up to the ending (and yes I liked the WHOLE game), you were still going to hate it. And now even with a supposed Wrap-Up DLC on the way you will probably hate that too.

Fine with me, its your energy you're wasting and the company probably won't really care all that much and continue to make games their way. If they were to bend the other way and only listen to what vocal majorities say (and not all Vocal Majorities are true representative of actual majority) then games will become directed by fans and more than likely suck a lot more.

Have you ever read fanfiction?

If you're good enough to write, or make video games yourself, then by all means go out and make a game better than the one you wish was made. Accomplish something yourself instead of bitching at someone else to "get it right" when each of you most likely has a different point of view of what "get it right" means.

Sorry friend, your kind of talk isn't welcome on these threads.

Can I see your card that gives you baseline right to deny me my freedom to speak on a thread and voice my opinion? You don't have one? Awwwww... must be hard to read opinions that aren't your own then.

 

[Abedeus]

The original ending was brilliant. Sure it left some lose threads hanging, but still brilliant. I'm glad they're not changing them.

...Which part of "introducing magic to SF, pseudo-science, breaking characters, technology, lies about amount and type of endings" is brilliant? I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but... you think multiple wrongs can make a right?

I just love that so many people think they're publishers or writers with accomplishments beyond an A in English or 3.2 on their last computer science course....

Sarcasm aside, fans get it through your head that ME3 ended the way it did, Bioware did what they did and any changes after said fact are meaningless to you and will not change your perception of the game or Bioware.
Face it, you hate the game because it has EA stamped on it, you deny the fact that the previous two games had basically the SAME ending no matter what you did in gameplay beyond a minor plot choice (ME1: Council saved/killed, ME2: Collectors base destroyed/handed over to Cerberus).

Stopped reading on the "EA stamp" bullshit.

Yeah, I hate EA so much I didn't pre-order Crysis 2 or ME3, I'm a masochist...

Face it, you pull bullshit arguments out of thin air.

And no, don't bring up previous games. Don't. This was the last game of the trilogy. It was supposed to have "16 endings" that "weren't A, B or C". Actually ME had few differences:

1. Saren can shoot himself, redeeming some of his crimes.
2. Council can survive or not, affects ME3.
3. You change who survives on Virmire, and whether Wrex lives or not.

In ME2, you can have everyone survive the suicide mission, or nobody except Shepard (which probably makes for a very shitty ME3 plot...). Yes, they dropped the ball with the collector base. But it's not in ME2's territory, but in ME3. ME3 was rushed, and many decisions that were promised to have an effect in ME3 didn't happen. Rachni queen dead? They found new one. Anderson in Council? He resigned.

You just gave us more reasons to dislike ME3's "choices are important" bullshit. Except nobody cares about those - gameplay is amazing as it is, and plot is engaging as usual. The ending is just a supermassive black hole that sucks out all the enjoyment because you KNOW that you'll get Blue, Green or Red ending with minor variations.

I ask - where are the 16 endings?

 

[Vegosiux]

The rest of us who like it and are actually vocal enough to say we liked it aren't saying you don't have the right to hate it. Just you've nothing you can do about it.

That really depends on just what happened. I mean, was there false advertising, did I as a customer get ripped off, does the product do what I was told it does...it's like that in any business. And to some businesses, "I don't like it" is enough to get a refund. Gaming industry is obviously not such a business, nor can it be, but I'm just saying. Sometimes, it is within my rights to do something about it.

 

[Teh Jammah]

Honestly, not really.

The way Bioware & EA has treated the whole thing just comes off as condescending. Tnis whole DLC just adds to the already bad taste that the ending and their initial attempts at damage control have already put in a lot of people's mouths.

First retakers or anyone who didn't like the ending were being 'whiny' and/or 'entitled', and we should all shut up and go play multiplayer and buy DLC like good little walking wallets.

Now they're releasing new DLC to 'explain' and 'clarify' the ending, because we're all apparently not clever enough to fathom the depths of their genius.

They still haven't admitted that they made an ending that was just plain bad. If they held up their hands and said 'Ok, we screwed up, we're sorry' they'd get a lot more slack than their current attitude of 'you just don't get it'.

Given the rumor about the ending being written by Casey Hudson & Mac Walters without any input from the rest of the team, and a soundbyte from Hudson talking about how they were going to put in some kind of fight with a reaperized TIM but didn't because it was 'too videogamey', combined with the whole 'Hepler Mode' deal from a while back I'm starting to think that the main problem is that BioWare is starting to become a collective of failed/wannabe filmmakers who're currently 'slumming it' in the gaming industry.

It would certainly explain a lot.

Of course best case scenario is that they're actually just trolling us to artificially lower expectations (which is part of the reason this blew up on them in the first place - too mamy people probably came into the game with expectations of an ending that was probably too epic to be physically possible) and that what they're going to release is a lot more substantial and actually gives us an ending that both doesn't make your brain hurt and actually lets all those choices you made matter. I'm not holding out any hope for that though.

 

[Goofguy]

You all do release there are going to be more games after Shepard's story has ended right? Trust me on that more will be explained in say another cycle.

Do you work for Bioware?

Would that even really be satisfactory? Have some new characters from 3000 years later talking off-handedly about the Shepard? Oh wait...

 

[Noble_Lance]

You all do release there are going to be more games after Shepard's story has ended right? Trust me on that more will be explained in say another cycle.

Do you work for Bioware?

Would that even really be satisfactory? Have some new characters from 3000 years later talking off-handedly about the Shepard? Oh wait...

No but they've told us to keep the saves, why the hell us would we keep them for any other reason. OTHER than a new Mass Effect game.

 

[dancinginfernal]

I've stopped caring a long time ago, and probably won't be playing it again until I forget about its contents months from now. Such is how it goes with most games I play.

 

[Flight]

I can't say I'm optimistic. Given that Bioware/EA handled the fallout in an incredibly poor fashion, to say nothing about talking about artistic integrity when it was obvious corners were cut in several areas, I'm not feeling good about this.

 

[Goofguy]

You all do release there are going to be more games after Shepard's story has ended right? Trust me on that more will be explained in say another cycle.

Do you work for Bioware?

Would that even really be satisfactory? Have some new characters from 3000 years later talking off-handedly about the Shepard? Oh wait...

No but they've told us to keep the saves, why the hell us would we keep them for any other reason. OTHER than a new Mass Effect game.

They also told us there would be various unique endings shaped entirely by the decisions you made throughout the series and in essence, each player was the architect of their respective finale.

You'll have to excuse me if I don't take them at their word. When it comes to Bioware these days, actions speak louder than words.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

Well, the ending didn't bother me too much actually. I just try and enjoy the other flawless 99% of the game.

 

[Forgetitnow344]

There were three ending CUTSCENES, not three different endings.

1: the universe is now devoid of all synthetic life.
2: you are the reapers (or something)
3: everyone is a cyborg (or something

I don't fully understand Control or Synthesis, but if you chose either of them then you are no better than the company that you claim has ruined Shepard because the goddamn mission was to destroy the reapers.

Bioware is fully within their rights to have a shitty ending (and most of the gripes about anything that happened before the reaper laser are just nitpicking anyway - the game was fantastic up to that point), the problem was with how devoid of explanation the ending was. Three VERY different universes were spawned depending on your choices and even within them are tiny changes we never get to see. How the hell is everyone going to survive being trapped in the Local Cluster? How did the Normandy get to a livable planet so far away so fast? How did Joker, James, and a bunch of aliens repopulate civilization? These are the questions that need to be answered. If BioWare does this, I will be satisfied. If they don't, it proves they are now incapable of creating a coherent story. Now's their chance for redemption and I hope they take it.

 

[Acton Hank]

I just love that so many people think they're publishers or writers with accomplishments beyond an A in English or 3.2 on their last computer science course....

Sarcasm aside, fans get it through your head that ME3 ended the way it did, Bioware did what they did and any changes after said fact are meaningless to you and will not change your perception of the game or Bioware.
Face it, you hate the game because it has EA stamped on it, you deny the fact that the previous two games had basically the SAME ending no matter what you did in gameplay beyond a minor plot choice (ME1: Council saved/killed, ME2: Collectors base destroyed/handed over to Cerberus).
But nothing in those two games ever changes the ending enough to really affect it and the SAME thing happened in ME3.
What you're missing is the narrative in between is what changes not the ending.
I'm sorry you felt betrayed, or didn't like it or thought you didn't get your moneys worth but in the end its not your game. You payed to play it, like you pay to watch a movie. And you don't get your money back if you sit through the movie and it sucks or play through the game and don't like how it ends. And you certainly have no right to tell the writers/publishers/developers to change that.
Do something constructive, go out and make a better game since a number of you seem to think you can.
I just personally think that there's a combination of EA hate (which has somehow overtaken Activision's place as most hated publisher) and a predisposition to hate the game no matter what.
Examples:

1. Multiplayer: when announced the vocal fandom raged.
2. Kinect Funcitonality: when announced the fandom raged, again.
3. Gameplay choice (Narrative/RPG/Action-shooter): Rage, fans, again.
4. Prothean DLC: When announced after gold the fandom raged, yet again.

See where I'm going? Nothing's good enough, and no matter what happened, despite the game being solid all the way through up to the ending (and yes I liked the WHOLE game), you were still going to hate it. And now even with a supposed Wrap-Up DLC on the way you will probably hate that too.

Fine with me, its your energy you're wasting and the company probably won't really care all that much and continue to make games their way. If they were to bend the other way and only listen to what vocal majorities say (and not all Vocal Majorities are true representative of actual majority) then games will become directed by fans and more than likely suck a lot more.

Have you ever read fanfiction?

If you're good enough to write, or make video games yourself, then by all means go out and make a game better than the one you wish was made. Accomplish something yourself instead of bitching at someone else to "get it right" when each of you most likely has a different point of view of what "get it right" means.

Sorry friend, your kind of talk isn't welcome on these threads.

Can I see your card that gives you baseline right to deny me my freedom to speak on a thread and voice my opinion? You don't have one? Awwwww... must be hard to read opinions that aren't your own then.

I just love that so many people think they're publishers or writers with accomplishments beyond an A in English or 3.2 on their last computer science course....

Sarcasm aside, fans get it through your head that ME3 ended the way it did, Bioware did what they did and any changes after said fact are meaningless to you and will not change your perception of the game or Bioware.
Face it, you hate the game because it has EA stamped on it, you deny the fact that the previous two games had basically the SAME ending no matter what you did in gameplay beyond a minor plot choice (ME1: Council saved/killed, ME2: Collectors base destroyed/handed over to Cerberus).
But nothing in those two games ever changes the ending enough to really affect it and the SAME thing happened in ME3.
What you're missing is the narrative in between is what changes not the ending.
I'm sorry you felt betrayed, or didn't like it or thought you didn't get your moneys worth but in the end its not your game. You payed to play it, like you pay to watch a movie. And you don't get your money back if you sit through the movie and it sucks or play through the game and don't like how it ends. And you certainly have no right to tell the writers/publishers/developers to change that.
Do something constructive, go out and make a better game since a number of you seem to think you can.
I just personally think that there's a combination of EA hate (which has somehow overtaken Activision's place as most hated publisher) and a predisposition to hate the game no matter what.
Examples:

1. Multiplayer: when announced the vocal fandom raged.
2. Kinect Funcitonality: when announced the fandom raged, again.
3. Gameplay choice (Narrative/RPG/Action-shooter): Rage, fans, again.
4. Prothean DLC: When announced after gold the fandom raged, yet again.

See where I'm going? Nothing's good enough, and no matter what happened, despite the game being solid all the way through up to the ending (and yes I liked the WHOLE game), you were still going to hate it. And now even with a supposed Wrap-Up DLC on the way you will probably hate that too.

Fine with me, its your energy you're wasting and the company probably won't really care all that much and continue to make games their way. If they were to bend the other way and only listen to what vocal majorities say (and not all Vocal Majorities are true representative of actual majority) then games will become directed by fans and more than likely suck a lot more.

Have you ever read fanfiction?

If you're good enough to write, or make video games yourself, then by all means go out and make a game better than the one you wish was made. Accomplish something yourself instead of bitching at someone else to "get it right" when each of you most likely has a different point of view of what "get it right" means.

Sorry friend, your kind of talk isn't welcome on these threads.

Can I see your card that gives you baseline right to deny me my freedom to speak on a thread and voice my opinion? You don't have one? Awwwww... must be hard to read opinions that aren't your own then.

You should realise by yourself that the opinion that fans should stop bitching about the ending has no place on a thread that asked people if they were optimistic about the extended cut, if you want to ***** about fans bitching, go make your own damn thread.

Also: we know damn well that ME3 ended the way it did, that's why we're angry.

Also: Yes, the endings in Mass Effect 1 and 2 were the same, but they were well made and satisfying, and if Bioware wasn't going deliver different endings for the end of the trilogy then they shouldn't have promised it numerous times throughout development.

Also: We have every right to criticise and ***** as much as we want.