ME3 extended cut. Optimistic?

[Forgetitnow344]

There were three ending CUTSCENES, not three different endings.

1: the universe is now devoid of all synthetic life.
2: you are the reapers (or something)
3: everyone is a cyborg (or something

I don't fully understand Control or Synthesis, but if you chose either of them then you are no better than the company that you claim has ruined Shepard because the goddamn mission was to destroy the reapers.

Bioware is fully within their rights to have a shitty ending (and most of the gripes about anything that happened before the reaper laser are just nitpicking anyway - the game was fantastic up to that point), the problem was with how devoid of explanation the ending was. Three VERY different universes were spawned depending on your choices and even within them are tiny changes we never get to see. How the hell is everyone going to survive being trapped in the Local Cluster? How did the Normandy get to a livable planet so far away so fast? How did Joker, James, and a bunch of aliens repopulate civilization? These are the questions that need to be answered. If BioWare does this, I will be satisfied. If they don't, it proves they are now incapable of creating a coherent story. Now's their chance for redemption and I hope they take it.

 

[Acton Hank]

I just love that so many people think they're publishers or writers with accomplishments beyond an A in English or 3.2 on their last computer science course....

Sarcasm aside, fans get it through your head that ME3 ended the way it did, Bioware did what they did and any changes after said fact are meaningless to you and will not change your perception of the game or Bioware.
Face it, you hate the game because it has EA stamped on it, you deny the fact that the previous two games had basically the SAME ending no matter what you did in gameplay beyond a minor plot choice (ME1: Council saved/killed, ME2: Collectors base destroyed/handed over to Cerberus).
But nothing in those two games ever changes the ending enough to really affect it and the SAME thing happened in ME3.
What you're missing is the narrative in between is what changes not the ending.
I'm sorry you felt betrayed, or didn't like it or thought you didn't get your moneys worth but in the end its not your game. You payed to play it, like you pay to watch a movie. And you don't get your money back if you sit through the movie and it sucks or play through the game and don't like how it ends. And you certainly have no right to tell the writers/publishers/developers to change that.
Do something constructive, go out and make a better game since a number of you seem to think you can.
I just personally think that there's a combination of EA hate (which has somehow overtaken Activision's place as most hated publisher) and a predisposition to hate the game no matter what.
Examples:

1. Multiplayer: when announced the vocal fandom raged.
2. Kinect Funcitonality: when announced the fandom raged, again.
3. Gameplay choice (Narrative/RPG/Action-shooter): Rage, fans, again.
4. Prothean DLC: When announced after gold the fandom raged, yet again.

See where I'm going? Nothing's good enough, and no matter what happened, despite the game being solid all the way through up to the ending (and yes I liked the WHOLE game), you were still going to hate it. And now even with a supposed Wrap-Up DLC on the way you will probably hate that too.

Fine with me, its your energy you're wasting and the company probably won't really care all that much and continue to make games their way. If they were to bend the other way and only listen to what vocal majorities say (and not all Vocal Majorities are true representative of actual majority) then games will become directed by fans and more than likely suck a lot more.

Have you ever read fanfiction?

If you're good enough to write, or make video games yourself, then by all means go out and make a game better than the one you wish was made. Accomplish something yourself instead of bitching at someone else to "get it right" when each of you most likely has a different point of view of what "get it right" means.

Sorry friend, your kind of talk isn't welcome on these threads.

Can I see your card that gives you baseline right to deny me my freedom to speak on a thread and voice my opinion? You don't have one? Awwwww... must be hard to read opinions that aren't your own then.

I just love that so many people think they're publishers or writers with accomplishments beyond an A in English or 3.2 on their last computer science course....

Sarcasm aside, fans get it through your head that ME3 ended the way it did, Bioware did what they did and any changes after said fact are meaningless to you and will not change your perception of the game or Bioware.
Face it, you hate the game because it has EA stamped on it, you deny the fact that the previous two games had basically the SAME ending no matter what you did in gameplay beyond a minor plot choice (ME1: Council saved/killed, ME2: Collectors base destroyed/handed over to Cerberus).
But nothing in those two games ever changes the ending enough to really affect it and the SAME thing happened in ME3.
What you're missing is the narrative in between is what changes not the ending.
I'm sorry you felt betrayed, or didn't like it or thought you didn't get your moneys worth but in the end its not your game. You payed to play it, like you pay to watch a movie. And you don't get your money back if you sit through the movie and it sucks or play through the game and don't like how it ends. And you certainly have no right to tell the writers/publishers/developers to change that.
Do something constructive, go out and make a better game since a number of you seem to think you can.
I just personally think that there's a combination of EA hate (which has somehow overtaken Activision's place as most hated publisher) and a predisposition to hate the game no matter what.
Examples:

1. Multiplayer: when announced the vocal fandom raged.
2. Kinect Funcitonality: when announced the fandom raged, again.
3. Gameplay choice (Narrative/RPG/Action-shooter): Rage, fans, again.
4. Prothean DLC: When announced after gold the fandom raged, yet again.

See where I'm going? Nothing's good enough, and no matter what happened, despite the game being solid all the way through up to the ending (and yes I liked the WHOLE game), you were still going to hate it. And now even with a supposed Wrap-Up DLC on the way you will probably hate that too.

Fine with me, its your energy you're wasting and the company probably won't really care all that much and continue to make games their way. If they were to bend the other way and only listen to what vocal majorities say (and not all Vocal Majorities are true representative of actual majority) then games will become directed by fans and more than likely suck a lot more.

Have you ever read fanfiction?

If you're good enough to write, or make video games yourself, then by all means go out and make a game better than the one you wish was made. Accomplish something yourself instead of bitching at someone else to "get it right" when each of you most likely has a different point of view of what "get it right" means.

Sorry friend, your kind of talk isn't welcome on these threads.

Can I see your card that gives you baseline right to deny me my freedom to speak on a thread and voice my opinion? You don't have one? Awwwww... must be hard to read opinions that aren't your own then.

You should realise by yourself that the opinion that fans should stop bitching about the ending has no place on a thread that asked people if they were optimistic about the extended cut, if you want to ***** about fans bitching, go make your own damn thread.

Also: we know damn well that ME3 ended the way it did, that's why we're angry.

Also: Yes, the endings in Mass Effect 1 and 2 were the same, but they were well made and satisfying, and if Bioware wasn't going deliver different endings for the end of the trilogy then they shouldn't have promised it numerous times throughout development.

Also: We have every right to criticise and ***** as much as we want.

 

[Squidbulb]

You begged for something like this, and now that they're doing something you complain? What the hell? Have you ever heard the phrase "beggars can't be choosers"? If you complained about the ending and are not going to even try out this dlc, YOU ARE A PRICK. There is absolutely nothing you can say to convince me otherwise. If you asked for a different ending and are not happy about this, then you don't deserve a better ending.

 

[Acton Hank]

You begged for something like this, and now that they're doing something you complain? What the hell? Have you ever heard the phrase "beggars can't be choosers"? If you complained about the ending and are not going to even try out this dlc, YOU ARE A PRICK. There is absolutely nothing you can say to convince me otherwise. If you asked for a different ending and are not happy about this, then you don't deserve a better ending.

We asked for a better ending not an explanation of why we got a shitty one.

 

[oooooooooooooooooooooooooo]

The original ending was brilliant. Sure it left some lose threads hanging, but still brilliant. I'm glad they're not changing them.

I wouldn't quite go that far since I thought it could have been executed better, but I also thought it was pretty good and a whole lot better than the hate bandwagon would have you believe.

Anyway the main issue I had with the ending was the lack of closure, an issue which this dlc is specifically made to address, so I am pretty confident that I will enjoy it.

 

[Moth_Monk]

Yes I am optimistic about the Extended Cut. I didn't get depressed (as some have) by Mass Effect 3's ending as some have done. Looking on the bright side, any addition to the ending is an improvement.

 

[MarsProbe]

The original ending was brilliant. Sure it left some lose threads hanging, but still brilliant. I'm glad they're not changing them.

Good one, mate! You almost had me there for a moment; Keep at it!

That's a good one. But just to round it off:


Good to know people on the internet can still make us laugh.

Anyway, I'm not really optimistic about the "extended cut" but I'll take it anyway, as anything has got to better than that...

Unless of course, what you're saying is, the ending to the original game was brilliant. That I would agree with. Sure, it did leave some loose threads hanging but at leats they were picked up in ME2.

 

[AgentLampshade]

I don't care enough to even get it. I played the games, I enjoyed the story, I suffered the ending. That's pretty much it. Next franchise!

 

[Aerosteam]

Pfft, no.

No matter how good it is, there will still be the great shitstorm that is fanboy rage.

 

[Sexy Devil]

The original ending was brilliant. Sure it left some lose threads hanging, but still brilliant. I'm glad they're not changing them.

I'm watching you.



OT: It's not like they could make anything worse than it already is.


Right?

I don't know, Bioware could still hire M. Night Shayma- Shamal- Shyamala- whatever his name is to make it worse.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Let me put my Nostradamus hat on. I see...

...EA/Bioware screwing it up like they always do these days...
...more backlash...
...a forum full of angry threads...
...cries of "entitlement"...
...people moving on to overinvest in, rage about, and defend the next mediocre game...

 

[Murmillos]

If there was a poll, I would have voted No.

But then again, maybe the are attentively attempting to keep our expectations low, so when it does come out and it is a brand new "non-fucked" ending and the star-brat was nothing more then a bad dream, we will all love BioWare again for putting us on this emotional roller coaster.

but i doubt that will happen.



EA basically doesn't want me preordering any more of their games and then waiting until they are $30 or less. Strange marketing strategy, because you'd think they would want me to preorder games at full $70. You know, with those "I believe in the developer" collectors editions that have extra 'art work book' fluff.

But hey, if they don't me preordering their games at full price, then I will gladly oblige them in the future.

 

[Avalanche91]

I'm optimistic, but I am so very, very, veeery carefully.

All the mean words about the ending have already been said, Bioware and EA are making their stand. Now to see if it's worth it.

If anything, I was mildly surprised they release it for free, this being EA and all. Then again, the backlash if they dared pulling that stunt......

 

[Murmillos]

I don't know, Bioware could still hire M. Night Shayma- Shamal- Shyamala- whatever his name is to make it worse.

I honestly think that he could make the ending better then what we got.

 

[Darkcerb]

The original ending was brilliant. Sure it left some lose threads hanging, but still brilliant. I'm glad they're not changing them.

...Which part of "introducing magic to SF, pseudo-science, breaking characters, technology, lies about amount and type of endings" is brilliant? I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but... you think multiple wrongs can make a right?

I just love that so many people think they're publishers or writers with accomplishments beyond an A in English or 3.2 on their last computer science course....

Sarcasm aside, fans get it through your head that ME3 ended the way it did, Bioware did what they did and any changes after said fact are meaningless to you and will not change your perception of the game or Bioware.
Face it, you hate the game because it has EA stamped on it, you deny the fact that the previous two games had basically the SAME ending no matter what you did in gameplay beyond a minor plot choice (ME1: Council saved/killed, ME2: Collectors base destroyed/handed over to Cerberus).

Stopped reading on the "EA stamp" bullshit.

Yeah, I hate EA so much I didn't pre-order Crysis 2 or ME3, I'm a masochist...

Face it, you pull bullshit arguments out of thin air.

And no, don't bring up previous games. Don't. This was the last game of the trilogy. It was supposed to have "16 endings" that "weren't A, B or C". Actually ME had few differences:

1. Saren can shoot himself, redeeming some of his crimes.
2. Council can survive or not, affects ME3.
3. You change who survives on Virmire, and whether Wrex lives or not.

In ME2, you can have everyone survive the suicide mission, or nobody except Shepard (which probably makes for a very shitty ME3 plot...). Yes, they dropped the ball with the collector base. But it's not in ME2's territory, but in ME3. ME3 was rushed, and many decisions that were promised to have an effect in ME3 didn't happen. Rachni queen dead? They found new one. Anderson in Council? He resigned.

You just gave us more reasons to dislike ME3's "choices are important" bullshit. Except nobody cares about those - gameplay is amazing as it is, and plot is engaging as usual. The ending is just a supermassive black hole that sucks out all the enjoyment because you KNOW that you'll get Blue, Green or Red ending with minor variations.

I ask - where are the 16 endings?

Clearly we all just hate ea/bioware and/or just wanted a happy ending of course either way we just didn't get it.

On topic in case that wasn't clear enough no I'm not in the same continent as hopeful because they're keeping in everything beyond shep getting a face full of harbinger beam, which is where logic, narrative cohesion and plot rapidly died.

 

[Mage of Doom]

You should realise by yourself that the opinion that fans should stop bitching about the ending has no place on a thread that asked people if they were optimistic about the extended cut, if you want to ***** about fans bitching, go make your own damn thread.


Also: We have every right to criticise and ***** as much as we want.

Really? There are really people who are this stupidly hypocritical in real life?

 

[LiberalSquirrel]

I reeeeally hope so. I loved Mass Effect and just want it to get the end it deserves.

Agreed. Hell, I didn't just love Mass Effect in general- I loved Mass Effect 3. The ending was a let-down, but the other 99% of the game was fantastic, in my opinion. So yeah. I'm optimistic. Let's hope the extended cut makes that final 1% of the game stand up to the other 99%.

 

[Acton Hank]

You should realise by yourself that the opinion that fans should stop bitching about the ending has no place on a thread that asked people if they were optimistic about the extended cut, if you want to ***** about fans bitching, go make your own damn thread.


Also: We have every right to criticise and ***** as much as we want.

Really? There are really people who are this stupidly hypocritical in real life?

Is this directed at me?

If so, then I will kindly inform you that my intention was to let him know that complaining about people complaining was not appropriate to this thread. Then I proceded to let him know a few of the reasons why I'm complaining. Then I stated that my opinion is that everyone has the right to criticize and have their own opinion, even if it conflicts with someone else's...

GEDDIT?! Good.