ME3 Indoctrination theory analysis

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boag

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JonahGrimm said:
Heh. Here's a couple thoughts, guys:


- Why do you immediately go back to your 'casual' clothing after getting blasted by Harbinger? There aren't even any 'back mounts' or spots for them for your weapons. I actually chose pattern 4, FemShep, which has your arms uncovered and cuffs of white fabric at the elbow, and those cuffs were there, and my arms were uncovered.

the armor was burned off by Harbingers attack, thats why you are running around in a melted down suit and the clothes you wore under them.

- Where are the bodies of your friends? (do you think BioWare /wouldn't/ show you dead companions?)

right here buddy


- Why does the VI in TIM's station say 'he'll tell you about the Catalyst because his security protocols are broken'? Remember that before he was willing, until the indoctrinated assassin showed up... why would he even check those subroutines? (I do know that this hints Shep isn't fully indoctrinated by then - I think this is true. Personally, I think you're witnessing final indoctrination in the ending.)

because it was probably part of the setup to make the whole indoctrination thing make sense, you know, before bioware scrapped it in favor of Mac Walters shit ending.[/oolor]

- Why does the 'black mist' when TIM has you look like the 'black mist' from your dream?
indoctrination

- Why do you 'wake up' in the best of all possible endings?
you mean the destroy ending? if anything it would be because its the end of the indoctrination

- Why do we not see Harbinger die?
because Bioware cut shit out of the ending to sell it back as DLC(this is an assumption)


- How did Garrus (who was with me, and theoretically blasted by Harbinger) get off of the Normandy after it crashed? ... how'd he get on it in the first place, if all this is happening so quickly? Since when has Bioware blown continuity that badly?

- How was I able to shoot the Illusive Man if he controlled me fully?
- Why would the 'Catalyst' look like the kid?
- Why can't I ask the Catalyst any real questions - like you can with every other NPC, including Soverign?, when faced with such a huge decision?
- The three kid-dreams match up - loosely - with the three endings. My memory of them is hazy, but the scene of Shepard embracing the kid (the most recent) and then burning seems to reference control, power, and other similar themes in the voices around you. The other two? Only the kid burns. (I shall replay soon just to watch them closely, I think.)
space magic, we dont have to explain shit :D

Sure, we all may be wrong- but I think the evidence points that way. More than anything, though, is that this doesn't feel like a BioWare ending. I know, that's subjective - we all knew ME was going to end on a choice (the game is about choice, after all!), but this is a choice when you can't even replay the "Catalyst's" conversation.

Nope. There's some kind of twist coming.



Ive answered some of your questions, if you want more answers you need to buy the Exclusive DLC to find out the rest... maybe.
 

Savagezion

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Raven said:
LMAO. That is the best ME3 ending video I have seen yet. My throat and stomach hurt from laughing so hard that I had tears coming out and was in pain and couldn't breathe on the last bit with his Tali expectations. Thank you for posting that one. I had seen that video used before in a lot of spoof material but this one is by far the best.

In case it disappears, it reads "Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever."
Not saying I am right but that is exactly what I would be saying too upon mass disappointment and stuff like Amazon handing out free refunds. If the used games industry gets flooded with returned copies, Mass Effect 3 will go belly up. If they can get people to just not release their copies into the used market for a couple months, then it hurt so much. Make promises where you commit to nothing and then in a few months discard the whole project.

Like I said, I am not saying that is what they are doing but if someone wanted to be shady, that is how you would do it. Give people a reason to hold on to their copy out of hope. Because the minute they abandon hope, a million used copies are hitting the shelf and demand in the market dies.
 

Grivahri

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I find it very hard to believe that it all these things that support the indoctrination theory was simply coincidence on Biowares part. So many things that makes sense if the indoctrination theory is true. Not just the ending but several parts in ME3. Why would the catalyst take the form of the kid that only Shepard saw? Why did he have the same nightmares over and over again? How did the illusive get to the control panel and where from? Was he invisible? Why did the citadel tower look so different than in ME1 and even in the beginning of ME3. How could TIM control you and Anderson? Why is Shepard immune towards indoctrination? Why was the kid the first thing we saw in the game? Why did the kid look straight at Shepard before he got onto the shuttle that was destroyed? Why did you see Harbinger leave after he almost killed you? Why does the ending feel so out of place?