ME3 "Operation Goliath"

[skywolfblue]

Was there suppose to be some kind of alert that let me know that its triggered?

I beat several missions against reapers on silver today, but didn't notice any kind of pop up. (xbox 360)

 

[Mrsoupcup]

Was there suppose to be some kind of alert that let me know that its triggered?

I beat several missions against reapers on silver today, but didn't notice any kind of pop up. (xbox 360)

Nope I beat a few missions against Reaper on Silver and nothing. Apparently the packs get unlocked Tuesday.

 

[Sprinal]

I don't care for other peoples feelings. I find them petty and overly emotional.

It comes across... I didn't like No2 and I didn't even bother with 3. It seemed aweful. I wanted a game where I didn't even have to shoot... Didn't get it. That made me sad. Really it did. So as a result I am not buying anything from EA/Bioware until they can convince me that I should. This is my way of protesting.

but Don't you think that there is a high chance of being Perma Banned if you keep this up? Its good to have your opinions but please I don't want to see I giant hammer fall upon your IP address

EDIT: I'm not really sure What I was trying to get at here but I supose the main reason for posting was that I think you should control your rage a little.

 

[Fleetfiend]

...failings of the single player campaign....

Wut? The Singeplayer campaign is great. I mean, you can't say the singleplayer failed just because 10 minutes of a 25+ hour game was bad.

Thank you. If the ending offended you (which I am one of the .00000001% of players for which it didn't), I can see how that sours the rest of the experience... but that doesn't make the rest of the experience. Did you enjoy it up until the end? If so, the game wasn't bad... the ending was.

OT: Okay, so what you're saying is... you didn't like the campaign, so it's not okay for them to continue doing things with other parts of the game, even little things that probably took no dev time at all and made the multiplayer a bit more interesting and active? That makes sense, right? >.> Grow up a little.

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

Well. I liked the sabotage thing. it was pretty fucking fun in my playthrough. I decided to keep the sabotage secret until the pinnacle moment and when my Shepard revealed it and Mordin was like "I MADE A MISTAKE". I was pretty fucking impressed. Yes, that moment was done well. Hell Mordin sold me on that choice.. because I was convinced up to that point that I was going it sabotage it. And, at that moment.. I just couldn't screw over two pals. I mean, one pal is alright, but two? There's renegade and then theres asshole.

I wouldn't quite compare it to Ashley/Kaidan's decision but it was close.Closer to the wrex thing. Which wasn't really a big deal for me because I maxed out Intimidate fairly early.

So no that particular moment didn't resonate with me.

The legion and Tali thing was pretty bleh for me. And so melodramatic. holy shit. I've seen youtube videos of her suicide and I can't get over the cheese of it all. "OGMOMG MY PEOPLE, MASKLESS DIVE INTO THE OCEAN" Give me a break tali.

Like, let me see if I can build my argument like this. You know the ashley/Shepard showdown over the council. That could've been a tense moment. They couldn've built that moment much better. One renegade interupt shouldn't have solved that issue. The whole trust issue thing had been bubbling up from the beginning of the game.. and to see it resolved with a silly renegade interrupt is disappointing.

I'd be okay with one wasted opportunity, but there are too many for me to just ignore them.

The trial had oodles of potential for great moments. They mucked that away.

Hell, the starkid could've been done like Vigil. They mucked that away.

The anderson moment could've been touching. They mucked that away.

All in the name of streamlining rpg aspects. it's despicable. I can not appreciate a game that cripples itself just to entertain the casual market assholes.

Yeah, I got a much different Legion/Tali scene than you did. I was playing a Paragon game, though. The Paragon scene is actually pretty good, and it's well worth giving it a chance.

Honestly, I'm kinda getting the vibe that maybe they just botched the Renegade version of the game. Because the Paragon versions of a lot of the big scenes in the game seem to be a lot less... I dunno... hammy, I guess? Like the part with Udina and the Council. After my playthrough I was pretty curious how that would go if I'd taken the Renegade interrupt... and jeez... yeah... I definitely can see why you dislike it so much. Not because of what happens, but because of how it happens.

I definitely agree with you on the starchild. It had the potential to be ME3's Vigil... but fell pretty ridiculously far short.

I actually rather liked the Anderson moment. What botched it for me was that it was so short, and lead straight into the starchild. I actually would have liked the ending a whole lot more if it had ended at the scene with Shepard and Anderson and left their fates kinda ambiguous.

I dunno if I'd go so far as to call streamlining despicable. I'd probably feel much stronger about it though if it were happening to a series like System Shock, which I admit to being a much bigger fan of. But for the time... I dunno. I see nothing wrong with being inclusive, as long as that doesn't mean ruining the game experience. The days of ludicrously difficult NES games and incredibly complicated strategy and/or simulation UIs are in the past at this point, and sometimes I think that might actually be a good thing. You probably disagree, but that's cool. To be honest, I wish we could have our cake and eat it too. I wish there was a more even split between the number of 'inclusive' and 'hardcore' games coming out. One can hope, I guess.

 

[Thatrocketeer]

Is it just me? Or is everyone here just ignoring Zeel's constructive posts and instead just provokes the guy into calling everyone fanboys? I mean, Zeel and Tuesday Night Fever are having a legit discussion about the game without anyone calling anyone names. That does prove that Zeel's not just a fucking hate machine.

He did make legit criticisms in page 1 until this guy just straight up provoked him into his anti-bioware-I'll-call-everyone-who-disagrees-fanboys mode:

Ok, seriously? What's your hard-on for being so anti-BioWare? Hell, I'm not BioWare's biggest fan but even you're starting to piss me off. Any mention of BioWare, EA, Mass Effect or Dragon Age and you're on it like a hawk to spout your useless and inane hatred.

You don't like BioWare, we fucking get it.

Anyway, they said they'll "talk" about the ending in the future so... this seems like more of an olive branch than a "PLEASE FORGET OUR ENDING SUCKS" tactic. That is, y'know, if they actually do speak about it.

And then the whole forum suddenly jumped on the bandwagon and started to call him out. I know I'm basically defending someone infamous in this forum, but one has to wonder, when the MAJORITY of the forum suddenly teams up against a single person, you'd have to wonder yourself,

"What the fuck is wrong with these people?"

OT: I would've liked a link to explain what Operation Goliath is. Yeah I get it's a multiplayer thing, but does it include a new mechanic like coop/ctf/deathmatches? New map perhaps? I may get ME3 for its multiplayer schtick, since its relatively separate from its single player campaign and it looks Gears-of-War-like without the overtly brown color scheme.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

All I can say is "DEATH TO ALL BRUTES"

 

[Daystar Clarion]

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The guy is one more infraction from a permaban and he's only been here for a couple of months.

He may have valid points from time to time, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

It's about how zealous (see what I did thar?) and aggressive he is in his posts.

Click his profile, look at his posting history. 90% of his posts are on threads with something to do with Bioware/Mass Effect. For someone who doesn't like them very much, he spends a hell of a lot of time 'hating' them.

It's like he's in the Bioware closet or something.

 

[Sparrow]

*snip*

Any "valid" points he ever makes are simply made to piss people off. He's scum, plain and simple.

 

[Gustof26]

Secondly, Zeel will never stop posting hate and making it seem like it's truth so just stop replying.

I will always believe people can be rationally talked and dealt with, except for troll. Troll have a specif place in internet Hell.

Fans are simply people who enjoy the series.

Fanboys cannot accept that others don't.

There are also anti-fanboys, or haters, or whatever term you with to attribute to them. They seem to take pride and joy from their hatred. There the Sith of the internet, except no cool red light-sabers.

Sure. And do they ride Magical Unicorns into battle aswell?

Sorry, I dont believe in "anti-fanboys" or "haters". it is simply a buzzword created to derail the argument. Like when religious fanatics equate belief in science to their irrational faith. It's a displacement tactic. paint your enemy with the same brush type of thing.

An "anti-fanboy" is basically someone that requires good arguments to support their series. A label for that is unnecessary.

I understand where your coming from on this matter. I personally don't believe in fanboys. It's in your own words, "It is simply a buzz word...to derail the argument." Like the internet Godwin's law. You can throw out any argument using Anti-fanboy, just as easily as you can using Fanboy.

Your right that it's an unnecessary label, much like the one of Fanboy. I don't think there exist such a mystical creature.

*snip*

Any "valid" points he ever makes are simply made to piss people off. He's scum, plain and simple.

I will always hold this horrible and monstrous idea that people are inherently good. I believe all people can be reason with and talked to in a civil manner. I feel that "Z" isn't trolling, he's simply very....proactive when it comes to showcasing his opinion. If he is trolling, then smile and be nice. Nothing kills a troll better the respecting its opinion.

Back the subject matter. I've noticed that every time a hoard mode pops up, it's always compared to Gears of war. The first hoard mode was Space Invaders. Why doesn't it get credit for that, like ever!

 

[fnartilter]

OT: I still haven't tried the multiplayer on Mass Effect 3, I've heard it's fun but it never really interested me from the beginning. Honestly, I've barely played any of Mass Effect 3. I originally had the series for Xbox but because I've turned to PC gaming I decided to get the series on PC. I just did a speed run through the first 2 and then started the 3rd. A little after the mission on Palaven's moon I got bored of Male Shepard though, and decided to restart the series again as FemShep, doing a more thorough run-through on both games before restarting the 3rd.

I'll try the multiplayer eventually, but completing the series is more of a priority for me since I don't buy the Mass Effect games for multiplayer.

The multiplayer is pretty fun. There's only 4 maps (?) though, 3 types of enemies (Reapers, Geth, Cerberus), 3 difficulty levels, so... ~36 variations.

Pros:
It's more challenging than single player.
You get lots of numbers, and numbers unlock stuff.
Play with friends.

Cons:
You can randomly get lag spikes, not sure what causes them.
Lots of loading screens.
Your team might be challenged [mentally].

Overall it's fun Horde Mode gameplay. It's challenging, and good with one+ friends. More varied opponents than Left 4 Dead. But it has very few maps and objectives. If you don't enjoy it, but are a completionist for single player it only takes a few rounds to top up your Galactic Readiness to 100%.

Cheers!

 

[wheezy04]

Please...please stop feeding the Zeel-troll

 

[Uszi]

So on the topic... who's actually managed to complete a Reaper mission on Silver?

I've never managed to get past Wave 10. Gorram Banshees Guess I'm contributing to the Brute kill-count at least.

I've yet to play a match where I don't have a person go AFK, or a person try it at level 1, or with a Charge/Nova Vangaurd that fails by charging first and then nova-ing, and then getting insta-killed by the Banshee.

It would be nice if you couldn't join a silver or gold match with a level 1 character.

 

[Sangnz]

How did Mass effect turn into a game where "The singleplayer is crap but at least we have a mutliplayer."

I mean come on.

It didn't singleplayer is great and multiplayer is fun but needs fleshing out.


Captcha: hello world

 

[Issurru]

So on the topic... who's actually managed to complete a Reaper mission on Silver?

I've never managed to get past Wave 10. Gorram Banshees Guess I'm contributing to the Brute kill-count at least.

I have, once and I had to waste everything but my thermal clips Wave 9 was the hardest since we got totally swarmed Had a TPK but I used a medi-gel and spent the next 10-15 minutes running around the map slowly killing everything, then died within the first 30 seconds of Wave 10

Although I've only tried twice. Both times with my Turian sentinel. Once at level 16, then another at 20 with what I think is the best assault rifle in the game; The M-99 Saber 1, sure it only holds a total of 48 shots and weighs a tonne but it does stupid amounts of damage and is pretty accurate to boot.

Captcha: that's it?

Screw you captcha, I felt like a total badass when I beat wave 9

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

How did Mass effect turn into a game where "The singleplayer is crap but at least we have a mutliplayer."

I mean come on.

If you believe the single player was crap, you are in a VAST minority and your opinion will be dismissed by 99% of people who've played the game, myself included. The single player was the greatest I have ever played right up until the the very end, where it admittedly turned to crap. That hardly negates the rest of the game, which was beyond great.

 

[Doc Theta Sigma]

...failings of the single player campaign....

Wut? The Singeplayer campaign is great. I mean, you can't say the singleplayer failed just because 10 minutes of a 25+ hour game was bad.

I can say it failed for many other reasons. If the game was the ending in loop for 30 hours I think that might've been an improvement. Atleast then the game is forthright about its utter crap. With me3 its like they polished up shit until it shined.

They ruined everything great about the series.
the morality system
the character interaction
the lore development
the choices.

I find it amusing you spent so much time raging about Bioware and EA before it released, yet you still bought it.

 

[HigherTomorrow]

I actually haven't attacked Dragon Age. I liked DA:O and DA2.

Well there's your problem. You liked Dragon Age 2.

 

[Sylveria]

Let me get this straight. This entire thread is about fanboys gushing about how "AMAZING" and "PERFECT" it is(except the ending) but my ONE comment about how abysmal the game is, sets you off? Yes, that makes you a fanboy. Any normal human being would shrug their shoulders and go about their merry business. if ANY criticism of the game makes you upset. DING DONG! YOU'RE A FANBOY!

It's also not 'useless' or 'inane'. Did it ever occur to you that Mass Effect 3 isn't perfect? That the game is not this golden chariot cascading down a rainbow? Does that idea seem foreign to you? jesus christ. fanboys these days.


I actually haven't attacked Dragon Age. I liked DA:O and DA2.

Only fanboys speak in absolutes, Zeel. Just because you think that ME3 was shit, doesn't make it so. Remember, the difference between "I personally think this game sucks" and "THIS GAME DEFINITIVELY FUCKING BLOWS" can be the deciding factor in whether or not you come off as a total jerk. Which is exactly what's happening.

Also: not being a "golden chariot cascading down a rainbow" =/= OMG TOTAL SHIT

OT: Eh, I'll see what this event is before I decide whether I want to participate or not. I like the multiplayer, but maybe not enough to justify spending any more extra time on it.

He said it's not perfect. The only logical disagreement to that point if you think it is perfect which is an absolute. As you said, speaking in an absolute = fanboy.

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

Out of curiosity, what was it you liked about tali/legion scene.

I did the Paragon version of the scene where you save/recruit both the Quarian and Geth fleets by uploading the Reaper code to the Geth and talking down Admiral Han'Gerrel.

To me it was just a pretty powerful moment. The story of the Quarians and Geth was always one of the parts of the Mass Effect universe that I was most fascinated by, and I always really liked both Tali and Legion as characters. So it was pretty emotional to me to see the two of them clash, in order to defend their own people, with Shepard caught in the middle having to talk down a gung-ho admiral before her friends kill each other. And I liked that afterward when you talk to Tali in the Normandy, she tells you that despite the peace between the Quarians and Geth, a lot of the Quarians are still pretty wary about the situation. It's a small comment, but I liked it because it showed that things weren't automatically all sunshine and rainbows and lollipops... that full trust might happen eventually, but would take some time.

I've watched the Renegade versions of the Tali/Legion standoff, and yeah... I really don't feel much of anything at all for them.