Medal of Honor: Warfighter Sales Continue to Disappoint

[Elf Defiler Korgan]

Good yesss, good.

I might pick it up for a laugh in a few months, as the desperation to sell all their units reaches laughable levels.

Serves them right!

 

[lancar]

Turn it into an RTS. That'll turn some heads

 

[marurder]

Diversity, new IP's!

Nah, just remake the old ones and say the technology to be able to move a guy 2cm to the left is revolutionary... (serious, I remember someone said that in an old article)

Can't get the tune from Doorfighter out of my head...

 

[Nihlus2]

Give it a week, they will have found a way to add to this to their "this is why new IPs are too risky and we won't support that many of them in the future"

"...But, Medal of Honor is an old franchise... which you have yanked out of its original setting and element, and then milked, surely this just proves tha-"

EA while nodding sagely: "New IPs, too risky"

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

500,000 units worldwide? How much money did they pour into this?

EA just stop trying to compete with Activision for your own sake.

Or even better, stop competing with themselves.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

Turn it into an RTS. That'll turn some heads

It will sadden you to know that they've actually done that before, except it was trying to turn an RTS franchise into an FPS, which obviously failed miserably because EA's management are total morons.
When EA bought out Westwood in 1998 EA let them release the game the next installment of their highly acclaimed Command and Conquer series, which sold like hotcakes, and then told the developers "Now make us a sci-fi FPS to compete with Halo"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Renegade

It was actually a fairly decent game for the time, but everyone just took one look at the game and asked "Why does this exist?" and compared to Halo it didn't stand a chance.

Of course the underperformance of that game led to Westwood getting shut down and amalgamated, so I wonder how whoever was in charge of Warfighters' development is doing, and what will happen to MOH after this; Crappy online Free2play maybe?

 

[SnowBurst]

you do realise they said this about medal of honor in 2010 and ea wouldnt have made a sequel if the sales were shit so yeah im saying theyre lying again and im not even a fanboy because i dont play moh

 

[nomaner]

Turn it into an RTS. That'll turn some heads

DO YOU EVEN REMEMBER THE LAST RTS THAT STUDIO MADE?!!!! EA FORCED them to change its name and created a new studio to make ONLY strategy games.

so I wonder how whoever was in charge of Warfighters' development is doing, and what will happen to MOH after this; Crappy online Free2play maybe?

IT'S EALA, THE SAME STUDIO THAT EA REPLACED WESTWOOD WITH!!! They should know that giving it a new name and just let it make the only game that studio had left after that failure called C&C4 isn't going to stop them from making another failure after that game.

 

[NinjaSocks333]

Turn it into an RTS. That'll turn some heads

I would be interested to see a major publisher make a new RTS. Although if they converted medal of honor i think they should do it like ground control.

 

[tsb247]

I feel compelled to go into a small rant given the responses that I have read earlier in this thread.

Spoiler: Rant

So every modern military shooter is a copy of COD now? Damn, I remember playing Medal of Honor long before COD existed. Is ArmA II or III copying/going to copy COD as well?

I just think that is a particularly annoying response to this particular franchise, and it's especially annoying seeing as how the Medal of Honor franchise existed LONG before Call of Duty came around, and *gasp* it could be said that they copied Medal of Honor by making a WWII FPS!

Oh wait, they just capitalized on a popular idea. TONS of FPS titles released in the late 90s and early 2000s were WWII shooters based on the same premise. Medal of Honor did it before Call of Duty. Period.

The only reason I will not touch this game is because it requires Origin. I played the earlier Medal of Honor, and I enjoyed it. However, I don't feel like polluting my PC with Origin. EA really shot themselves in the foot with that digital distribution software of theirs. If it shows up on Steam, I may give it a shot, assuming the price is right.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

I reeeeeeeally hope this doesn't cost to many people their jobs...

Nah, devs get fired before shipping.

As to whether or not any of the morons in management that came up with this retarded 'follow the COD gravy train' get fired...

 

[lancar]

Turn it into an RTS. That'll turn some heads

It will sadden you to know that they've actually done that before, except it was trying to turn an RTS franchise into an FPS, which obviously failed miserably because EA's management are total morons.
When EA bought out Westwood in 1998 EA let them release the game the next installment of their highly acclaimed Command and Conquer series, which sold like hotcakes, and then told the developers "Now make us a sci-fi FPS to compete with Halo"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Renegade

It was actually a fairly decent game for the time, but everyone just took one look at the game and asked "Why does this exist?" and compared to Halo it didn't stand a chance.

Of course the underperformance of that game led to Westwood getting shut down and amalgamated, so I wonder how whoever was in charge of Warfighters' development is doing, and what will happen to MOH after this; Crappy online Free2play maybe?

Yup. I both know and remember it all Maybe I should've included a /sarcasm tag. The joke being that they try to convert every game and their dog into FPS's, but almost never the other way around.

 

[Bindal]

Yup. I both know and remember it all Maybe I should've included a /sarcasm tag. The joke being that they try to convert every game and their dog into FPS's, but almost never the other way around.

Funnily enough - the above mentioned Halo in fact HAD a RTS-game (Halo Wars). Only on console, sadly, but hey. It can be done. And apparently, it was decent. Not good enough to make more of them, but still alright.

Half Life 2 Wars (mod) also tries the same (Turning Half Life 2 into a RTS) and if we think and search long enough, we probably find a few more games, where that works.

 

[MammothBlade]

Hahahaha. Yet they churn out the same shit year after year and will continue to do so. Executives' response to this will be "you screwed up! it's not enough Call of Duty!", not some much-needed epiphany in which they realise it failed precisely because it tried to be Call of Duty. Because it failed to differentiate itself in a market where CoD fanboys aren't interested in anything other than Call of Duty and everyone else is sick of it. If MoH had stuck to WWII and tried to innovate, it would have sold well.

 

[MammothBlade]

So every modern military shooter is a copy of COD now? Damn, I remember playing Medal of Honor long before COD existed. Is ArmA II or III copying/going to copy COD as well?

I just think that is a particularly annoying response to this particular franchise, and it's especially annoying seeing as how the Medal of Honor franchise existed LONG before Call of Duty came around, and *gasp* it could be said that they copied Medal of Honor by making a WWII FPS!

Oh wait, they just capitalized on a popular idea. TONS of FPS titles released in the late 90s and early 2000s were WWII shooters based on the same premise. Medal of Honor did it before Call of Duty. Period.[/

No, Arma and Battlefield definitely aren't MMS ripoffs, nor will they be inclined to as they have their own unique features which make them distinguishable from any Call of Duty game. But what has happened here is that Medal of Honor has become a follower, not a leader in the genre, and is reduced to copying whatever Call of Duty does and doing a terrible job of it, too. I hate to say it, but Call of Duty was innovative at the time. It was quite different to Medal of Honor originally.

This sort of homogeneous me-tooism is bad for games and copying a tired, dull, and repetitive formula deserves a negative response.

 

[tsb247]

But what has happened here is that Medal of Honor has become a follower, not a leader in the genre, and is reduced to copying whatever Call of Duty does and doing a terrible job of it, too.

That's debateable. I see Medal of Honor as trying to tell more of a realistic story rather than being simply, "Hollywood," like Call of Duty, and in doing so, creates a different game environment and a different take the genrel; albeit subtle. I think the reason it has been received so poorly is because everyone is trying to compare it to Call of Duty. Then again, as, "Realistic," as both would claim to be, neither one really even comes close.

Having said all of this, I must say that I have not played Warfighter yet. I will pick it up if I can, A.) get it at a decent price on Steam (unlikely), and B.) have a way to play it without Origin (see point A - unlikely).

I hate to say it, but Call of Duty was innovative at the time. It was quite different to Medal of Honor originally.

Are we talking about the original Call of Duty? I would hardly call it innovative. It was just another WWII shooter in a sea of WWII shooters that were released all around the same time. The Reason why Medal of Honor did not persist was likely because half (or most) of the development team seemed to have some problem with how EA ran things seeing as how they left and formed Infinity Ward. See my next point below.

This sort of homogeneous me-tooism is bad for games and copying a tired, dull, and repetitive formula deserves a negative response.

That's what I am getting at. Call of Duty did exactly that with Medal of Honor. Hell, some of the development team from the Medal of Honor franchise helped to create Call of Duty after leaving EA!

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Ward

Medal of Honor, for better or worse is trying to tell a more realistic story, and is doing it in a way so as to be entertaining. Call of Duty seems to go for over-the-top action and nothing more.

I'm not trying to pick a side here. All I am saying is that I am sick of hearing the, "Call of Duty rip off," nonsense. Call of Duty wouldn't exist without the Medal of Honor franchise. That's all I am getting at.

EDIT: Derp. Quoting FAIL on my part!

 

[Metalrocks]

this happens if you try to copy COD ?A. how about you stop coping from others and actually try to make something smart for a change. like using creativity, taking your time and make sure the game actually works.

 

[BirdKiller]

The game was already destined to fail when it first debut. It was relying too much on DICE's work with Frostbite 2 engine, marketing based on worldwide Special Forces, and the inexperience that was apparent from the first Medal of Honor.

 

[Gunner 51]

I never thought I'd say this, but perhaps EA should shake things up let the MOH take a new direction. Make a game like Brothers in Arms (including decent story) only from a German, Japanese or even an Italian point of view.

 

[VanBasten]

Are we talking about the original Call of Duty? I would hardly call it innovative. It was just another WWII shooter in a sea of WWII shooters that were released all around the same time.

It clearly wasn't "just another shooter" or it wouldn't be going strong to this day.
They did what Blizzard is famous for: took already existing concepts, spruced them up, added some unique twists and features and made a product that was better than anything else at the time, including MoH.
MoH:W isn't better and it looks and plays like a game trying too hard to catch up to CoD. EA themselves have made statements that that's it's intended purpose: to steal away the shooter market from Activision. So any and all criticism of MoH copying CoD is valid, because that's what is happening now, 10 years ago simply doesn't matter anymore.

Medal of Honor, for better or worse is trying to tell a more realistic story, and is doing it in a way so as to be entertaining.

I'm sorry, but 'realistic' is next to last word I'd use to describe MoH:W(the last one would be 'good'). If that's what they were trying, they failed miserably.
Also, bunch of white Americans mowing down thousands of African, Arab, Eastern European and Asian people with their superior weaponry because "America, f*ck yeah!" isn't exactly the rest of the world's idea of entertainment really...