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BrainWalker

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Fox12 said:
BrainWalker said:
Fox12 said:
I lost faith in Pixar after Disney bought them out. Disney is basically EA, buying up more successful studios and then gutting them. I haven't quite lost faith in Pete Doctor though. The premise sounds a little silly, but then so did UP, and that became one of my favorites. We'll see...
That was back in '06. If Ratatouille, Wall-E and Up did nothing to restore your faith in Pixar then I'm not sure how anything ever could.
Yes, but two of this films were made by... Pete Doctor. And almost everything outside of his work has been growing less professional. We've also had a cars sequel and at least two plain movies, something old Pixar never would have done. Up is one of my favorite films, but apparently it was an uphill battle to get made. Disney didn't like it because children wouldn't want to buy old man toys. That's why Pixar is basically the cars company now. To make matters worse, a number of Pixar films were canceled by Disney so that Pixar could focus on 3d re-releases and sequels (actual statement). It's a miracle that Doctor gets anything done at all, but I like him, so I'll probably go see this movie.
Hmm... I wasn't aware Pete Doctor was involved in writing Wall-E, and I hadn't heard about Pixar having trouble selling Disney on Up, but I can totally see it. I also hadn't heard about cancelled projects but I don't have the time to do research. You've demonstrated greater knowledge than mine on this so far so I suppose I'll defer to your expertise.

I'll admit I've been bummed by their last 3 releases. Especially Brave, which I really, really wanted to be great, but was just sort of okay. I never had any interest in Cars 2, but I happened to catch it on TV and was truly surprised by how unwatchably godawful it is. A friend of mine once told me it was excusable as a low-effort dedicated money-printing-machine to fund more creative endeavors, but we haven't seen a truly excellent creative venture since Cars 2. And now to add further insult, Planes is a thing. Jesus.

I hadn't really taken a good look at the decline since '06 until this thread, and now I'm all sad.

Also: I dig Pete Doctor, but my favorite dude at Pixar is Brad Bird, even though he's not technically "with" Pixar.
 

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BrainWalker said:
Fox12 said:
BrainWalker said:
Fox12 said:
I lost faith in Pixar after Disney bought them out. Disney is basically EA, buying up more successful studios and then gutting them. I haven't quite lost faith in Pete Doctor though. The premise sounds a little silly, but then so did UP, and that became one of my favorites. We'll see...
That was back in '06. If Ratatouille, Wall-E and Up did nothing to restore your faith in Pixar then I'm not sure how anything ever could.
Yes, but two of this films were made by... Pete Doctor. And almost everything outside of his work has been growing less professional. We've also had a cars sequel and at least two plain movies, something old Pixar never would have done. Up is one of my favorite films, but apparently it was an uphill battle to get made. Disney didn't like it because children wouldn't want to buy old man toys. That's why Pixar is basically the cars company now. To make matters worse, a number of Pixar films were canceled by Disney so that Pixar could focus on 3d re-releases and sequels (actual statement). It's a miracle that Doctor gets anything done at all, but I like him, so I'll probably go see this movie.
I'd heard something like that, but hearing it affirmed just makes me sad. Pixar was such a great studio pre-Disney, and to see them clamping down on such a great creative outlet is supremely disheartening.

The only silver lining I can see is that eventually the luminaries behind Pixar will ditch the Mouse, go out on their own, and form a new entity that will allow them to express themselves creatively.
 

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This looks good. Toy Story but with emotions. It might also teach kids how to control them.
 

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Really interesting premise. I look forward to seeing them pull this off, creepy factor of the image aside.
 

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This movie is gonna be kinda weird cause the whole premise is basically an analogy about puberty. But its disney so they have to tip toe around the whole "shes probably thinking about sex now" thing and its going to be this giant pink elephant in the room that goes ignored over the course of the movie I would think. Because no way are they going to have any kind of allusion to sexuality in a movie aimed at kids staring a kid or risk being crucified by the masses.

Very interested to see how this movie pans out regardless of what disney does.
Teenage sexuality is usually addressed in Disney things with the timely inclusion of a friend of the opposite gender, or at most with some sort of pre-teen ball being organized at the school. When they can't do that, the concept of marriage sort of acts as a lampshade over it. Anna falling over for Hans in Frozen could more or less be redubbed as "I found my first source of female arousal, so he must TOTALLY be made for me! Yay!"

Y'know, your typical teenage naïveté.
 

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That design is just creepy, her face is too big for her head!

As for the premise? Ehh, I don't know. I know I'm a minority in this, but I really didn't like 'UP'. It was just so damn corny. Some of the funny parts got a chuckle out of me, but all the "touching" scenes just made me roll my eyes.
 

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Pixar realized that films about women make money, good for them. I'm really hoping this movie is more tasteful than super princess peach, though. Since their first thought when making a female protagonist seems to have been to personify her emotions...
 

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BrainWalker said:
Fox12 said:
BrainWalker said:
Fox12 said:
I lost faith in Pixar after Disney bought them out. Disney is basically EA, buying up more successful studios and then gutting them. I haven't quite lost faith in Pete Doctor though. The premise sounds a little silly, but then so did UP, and that became one of my favorites. We'll see...
That was back in '06. If Ratatouille, Wall-E and Up did nothing to restore your faith in Pixar then I'm not sure how anything ever could.
Yes, but two of this films were made by... Pete Doctor. And almost everything outside of his work has been growing less professional. We've also had a cars sequel and at least two plain movies, something old Pixar never would have done. Up is one of my favorite films, but apparently it was an uphill battle to get made. Disney didn't like it because children wouldn't want to buy old man toys. That's why Pixar is basically the cars company now. To make matters worse, a number of Pixar films were canceled by Disney so that Pixar could focus on 3d re-releases and sequels (actual statement). It's a miracle that Doctor gets anything done at all, but I like him, so I'll probably go see this movie.
Hmm... I wasn't aware Pete Doctor was involved in writing Wall-E, and I hadn't heard about Pixar having trouble selling Disney on Up, but I can totally see it. I also hadn't heard about cancelled projects but I don't have the time to do research. You've demonstrated greater knowledge than mine on this so far so I suppose I'll defer to your expertise.

I'll admit I've been bummed by their last 3 releases. Especially Brave, which I really, really wanted to be great, but was just sort of okay. I never had any interest in Cars 2, but I happened to catch it on TV and was truly surprised by how unwatchably godawful it is. A friend of mine once told me it was excusable as a low-effort dedicated money-printing-machine to fund more creative endeavors, but we haven't seen a truly excellent creative venture since Cars 2. And now to add further insult, Planes is a thing. Jesus.

I hadn't really taken a good look at the decline since '06 until this thread, and now I'm all sad.

Also: I dig Pete Doctor, but my favorite dude at Pixar is Brad Bird, even though he's not technically "with" Pixar.
I love Brad Bird, I always thought he was rather underated. I'll admit I'm bitter towards Disney, but I'm sure Pixar will still manage to make the occasional great film, even if its despite Disney, and not because of them. It's just sad to see such a creative and artistic studio get used this way. I always felt like they respected children and wanted to give them their best.
 

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FINALLY SOME NEW IP

Like whoa. Wow. Jeezy pete. Last thing of original IP that came out of Pixar was in 2012, which is somewhat sad. Pixar used to be the powerhouse for original 3d animated content, and it's kind of been going downhill for a while. But thankfully, after that... Planes movie that they so desperately needed to get out of their system (as in Disney's toy marketing department), it's good to see Pixar back to making something unique and fresh.

And seeing how Disney themselves seem to be taking over the Planes license, I doubt Pixar will have to fumble with that useless schlock anyway. Good riddance.

Anyway, I'm super excited for this.
 

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neonsword13-ops said:
FINALLY SOME NEW IP

Like whoa. Wow. Jeezy pete. Last thing of original IP that came out of Pixar was in 2012, which is somewhat sad. Pixar used to be the powerhouse for original 3d animated content, and it's kind of been going downhill for a while. But thankfully, after that... Planes movie that they so desperately needed to get out of their system (as in Disney's toy marketing department), it's good to see Pixar back to making something unique and fresh.

And seeing how Disney themselves seem to be taking over the Planes license, I doubt Pixar will have to fumble with that useless schlock anyway. Good riddance.

Anyway, I'm super excited for this.
2012? Oh my god. That was, that was two whole years ago. They released one movie since then and it was a sequel, those sellout bastards.

No seriously, what are you talking about?
 

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...it feels weird that some of the voices in her head are male. I've read about people saying 'x type of voice in Y's head sounds like z' where z = a person they actually know in real life and thus could be any gender, BUT speaking as someone who doesn't have a bunch of voices in their head...

Weird.
 

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BrainWalker said:
Fox12 said:
I lost faith in Pixar after Disney bought them out. Disney is basically EA, buying up more successful studios and then gutting them. I haven't quite lost faith in Pete Doctor though. The premise sounds a little silly, but then so did UP, and that became one of my favorites. We'll see...
That was back in '06. If Ratatouille, Wall-E and Up did nothing to restore your faith in Pixar then I'm not sure how anything ever could.

And all of those films started production before Disney bought Pixar in 2006. Toy Story 3 was the first Pixar film to be started under Disney ownership and while that is awesome the next 3 are Cars 2, Brave and Monsters University.
 

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
neonsword13-ops said:
FINALLY SOME NEW IP

Like whoa. Wow. Jeezy pete. Last thing of original IP that came out of Pixar was in 2012, which is somewhat sad. Pixar used to be the powerhouse for original 3d animated content, and it's kind of been going downhill for a while. But thankfully, after that... Planes movie that they so desperately needed to get out of their system (as in Disney's toy marketing department), it's good to see Pixar back to making something unique and fresh.

And seeing how Disney themselves seem to be taking over the Planes license, I doubt Pixar will have to fumble with that useless schlock anyway. Good riddance.

Anyway, I'm super excited for this.
2012? Oh my god. That was, that was two whole years ago. They released one movie since then and it was a sequel, those sellout bastards.

No seriously, what are you talking about?

Pixar have made 14 films, in the first 10 till UP in 2009 there was 1 sequel Toy Story 2 their 3rd film. Since 2009 they have made 4 films 3 of them sequels and another 3 sequels planned with only 2 more original planned that's the problem.
 

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Fox12 said:
I lost faith in Pixar after Disney bought them out. Disney is basically EA, buying up more successful studios and then gutting them. I haven't quite lost faith in Pete Doctor though. The premise sounds a little silly, but then so did UP, and that became one of my favorites. We'll see...
You do realize that Disney did not so much "buy Pixar out", rather it is more "Pixar took control of Disney".
 

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faefrost said:
Fox12 said:
I lost faith in Pixar after Disney bought them out. Disney is basically EA, buying up more successful studios and then gutting them. I haven't quite lost faith in Pete Doctor though. The premise sounds a little silly, but then so did UP, and that became one of my favorites. We'll see...
You do realize that Disney did not so much "buy Pixar out", rather it is more "Pixar took control of Disney".
I know Pixar dive bombed in over all quality, and had their projects replaced with sequels and 3d re-releases. I know multiple ex Pixar employees wrote about the changes they experienced after the buy out.

Meanwhile john lasseter, probably the least artistically talented of Pixars staff, became a major head honcho of Disney. The last film he wrote and directed was Cars, and he's done little more than produce other works. Basically, Pixar came under the control of more business minded suits, while Disney failed to become more artistic. Say what you will about Steve Jobs, the staff said that he demanded the highest quality from pixar when he was in control, and it's generally agreed that there was an excited creative environment.

Honestly, after Disney fired their veteran animation staff in order to make room for classics like... Bolt, I can't feel much sympathy for them. Then they buyout Pixar, and then Lucas Films, allowing them to milk their franchises for all they're worth.