Message to all anime viewers(NSFW): Cross Ange Tenshi to Ryu no Rondo

[CaptainChip]

The point is this isn't the first nor will it be the last. It's just "one more heavy fanservice show". Nothing to go defcon 5 over. There's been multiple actual rape scenes one could masturbate to in multiple great anime. Ever watch Ninja Scroll? Berserk?

Don't make a big deal out of nothing.

Fanservice is fine, I will defend Kill La Kill as a good show but this is tasteless

NO, she does not get a spinal implant inserted(ignoring the fact that doing an implant at that area is very difficult and not practical) It was a physical

NO, it had too many scenes hanging on the ass and panties to make it anything but a pointless scene

NO, any thematic importance of it being a prison is erased with the credit scene of the other girls naked in a well decorated suite with two of them in a lesbian scene.

NO, rape is not meant to be wank material but something that serves a narrative purpose. You want wank material, just look for porn.

Cross Ange is trash of the highest level, and the polish in the animation only makes it worse.

Then don't watch it. It's obviously not meant to appeal to you.

I really don't see what's so hard about that.

Normally, with something like Infinite Stratos or Queen's Blade, for all it's fanservice, there is something redeeming about it.

This show just dives right into the 9th circle of hell and somehow finds a new 10th circle. It's not a matter of appealing to me or not, this is a matter of very bad writing and tastelessness.

That doesn't change my response. It's not for you. Don't watch it. Simple as that.

What possible audience is ther for this show? I can't see it at all.

There are audiences for everything, especially anime. Some people like watching anime with cute girls, some people like watching anime with action heroes, some people like watching anime with people getting raped and tortured. That's just what they do. I personally am not into those sorts of things, but there are people who are. I just don't watch it. That is all.

 

[PDugna]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over there and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

 

[PDugna]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

K then if you don't like it don't watch it, calling for its cancellation or non-existence is the same as censoring it. Then when you get into that territory it leads to things like the well written Berserk to be censored to. So just leave the crap alone.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

K then if you don't like it don't watch it, calling for its cancellation or non-existence is the same as censoring it. Then when you get into that territory it leads to things like the well written Berserk to be censored to. So just leave the crap alone.

I called for people to avoid it and demonize it, I did not call for it's cancellation and non-existance.

That is how the first amendement work. They can produce whatever they want and I get to criticize it. In this case, I am very much criticizing it and want people to simply know about the tastelessness this shows desplays

 

[PDugna]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

K then if you don't like it don't watch it, calling for its cancellation or non-existence is the same as censoring it. Then when you get into that territory it leads to things like the well written Berserk to be censored to. So just leave the crap alone.

I called for people to avoid it and demonize it, I did not call for it's cancellation and non-existance.

That is how the first amendement work. They can produce whatever they want and I get to criticize it. In this case, I am very much criticizing it and want people to simply know about the tastelessness this shows desplays

That's calling for its cancellation though....telling people not to watch it leads to less ratings which leads to those people getting less money. Or ya could just tell people what the show is and they will decide themselves.

You're essentially doing the same crap Jason Schreier did when Dragon's Crown came out, sure he didn't say the word censorship but he sure as hell didn't want the game to exist because of his sensitivities.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

K then if you don't like it don't watch it, calling for its cancellation or non-existence is the same as censoring it. Then when you get into that territory it leads to things like the well written Berserk to be censored to. So just leave the crap alone.

I called for people to avoid it and demonize it, I did not call for it's cancellation and non-existance.

That is how the first amendement work. They can produce whatever they want and I get to criticize it. In this case, I am very much criticizing it and want people to simply know about the tastelessness this shows desplays

That's calling for its cancellation though....telling people not to watch it leads to less ratings which leads to those people getting less money. Or ya could just tell people what the show is and they will decide themselves.

America has no impact on the Japanese market so I say I have some leniency with what I say. Regardless of how bad a show is, the Japanese market determines popularity and sales and not the American market. People may not need to heed my advice but that would be my recommendation with this show: avoid at all costs

 

[PDugna]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

K then if you don't like it don't watch it, calling for its cancellation or non-existence is the same as censoring it. Then when you get into that territory it leads to things like the well written Berserk to be censored to. So just leave the crap alone.

I called for people to avoid it and demonize it, I did not call for it's cancellation and non-existance.

That is how the first amendement work. They can produce whatever they want and I get to criticize it. In this case, I am very much criticizing it and want people to simply know about the tastelessness this shows desplays

That's calling for its cancellation though....telling people not to watch it leads to less ratings which leads to those people getting less money. Or ya could just tell people what the show is and they will decide themselves.

America has no impact on the Japanese market so I say I have some leniency with what I say. Regardless of how bad a show is, the Japanese market determines popularity and sales and not the American market. People may not need to heed my advice but that would be my recommendation with this show: avoid at all costs

Then ya still let the person go watch the show to form their own opinion, also NA does have some impact if it's shown we don't watch a said show they pretty much don't bother bringing over everything (kinda like how we STILL DON'T HAVE DETECTIVE CONAN SUBBED *sigh*). Without these shows they wouldn't find it profitable to show their shows over here, because then we would be stuck with tons of show that fit the environment of the west. That would be boring as heck.

 

[Fappy]

Well...much like the OP, this anime has apparently decided to throw their cards down onto the table hard enough to shatter said table and, in doing so, bisect Earth.

Christ. And I thought Elfen Lied was a kick in the jimmies...but my overall reaction? Meh.

Nothing I haven't seen in anime or, by extension, hentai before and, having experienced Gai-Rei Zero's opening episode, it isn't even the most shocking or affecting that I've viewed.

...That one made it difficult for me to sleep for some reason. Just...her head....and the dead eyes.

That first episode was fucked up as shit! By the time they eventually referenced what happened in it I had totally forgotten about those characters though XD

Also, judging by the rest of the anime and manga that takes place afterwords, that first episode is fun but sorely out of place tonally IMO.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

K then if you don't like it don't watch it, calling for its cancellation or non-existence is the same as censoring it. Then when you get into that territory it leads to things like the well written Berserk to be censored to. So just leave the crap alone.

I called for people to avoid it and demonize it, I did not call for it's cancellation and non-existance.

That is how the first amendement work. They can produce whatever they want and I get to criticize it. In this case, I am very much criticizing it and want people to simply know about the tastelessness this shows desplays

That's calling for its cancellation though....telling people not to watch it leads to less ratings which leads to those people getting less money. Or ya could just tell people what the show is and they will decide themselves.

America has no impact on the Japanese market so I say I have some leniency with what I say. Regardless of how bad a show is, the Japanese market determines popularity and sales and not the American market. People may not need to heed my advice but that would be my recommendation with this show: avoid at all costs

Then ya still let the person go watch the show to form their own opinion, also NA does have some impact if it's shown we don't watch a said show they pretty much don't bother bringing over everything (kinda like how we STILL DON'T HAVE DETECTIVE CONAN SUBBED *sigh*). Without these shows they wouldn't find it profitable to show their shows over here, because then we would be stuck with tons of show that fit the environment of the west. That would be boring as heck.

The license holders are the ones that determine whether a show gets shown here but it doesn't determine whether it gets popular in Japan or made. I understand people being pissed off that a show is not brought here but ultimately, the companies that take licenses like Crunchyroll determine exposure in the states and the consumer can say they want one or the other but that's it

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

Well...much like the OP, this anime has apparently decided to throw their cards down onto the table hard enough to shatter said table and, in doing so, bisect Earth.

Christ. And I thought Elfen Lied was a kick in the jimmies...but my overall reaction? Meh.

Nothing I haven't seen in anime or, by extension, hentai before and, having experienced Gai-Rei Zero's opening episode, it isn't even the most shocking or affecting that I've viewed.

...That one made it difficult for me to sleep for some reason. Just...her head....and the dead eyes.

That first episode was fucked up as shit! By the time they eventually referenced what happened in it I had totally forgotten about those characters though XD

Also, judging by the rest of the anime and manga that takes place afterwords, that first episode is fun but sorely out of place tonally IMO.

That first episode turned me off from the production and the fanservice is still going to be a problem.

Also, how did you watch the rest of the anime and manga? looking online gives only one chapter of the manga and only one episode is out in the states

 

[Fappy]

Well...much like the OP, this anime has apparently decided to throw their cards down onto the table hard enough to shatter said table and, in doing so, bisect Earth.

Christ. And I thought Elfen Lied was a kick in the jimmies...but my overall reaction? Meh.

Nothing I haven't seen in anime or, by extension, hentai before and, having experienced Gai-Rei Zero's opening episode, it isn't even the most shocking or affecting that I've viewed.

...That one made it difficult for me to sleep for some reason. Just...her head....and the dead eyes.

That first episode was fucked up as shit! By the time they eventually referenced what happened in it I had totally forgotten about those characters though XD

Also, judging by the rest of the anime and manga that takes place afterwords, that first episode is fun but sorely out of place tonally IMO.

That first episode turned me off from the production and the fanservice is still going to be a problem.

Also, how did you watch the rest of the anime and manga? looking online gives only one chapter of the manga and only one episode is out in the states

We're talking about Gai-Rei Zero, not Cross Ange. That show looks like assballs, lel

 

[PDugna]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

K then if you don't like it don't watch it, calling for its cancellation or non-existence is the same as censoring it. Then when you get into that territory it leads to things like the well written Berserk to be censored to. So just leave the crap alone.

I called for people to avoid it and demonize it, I did not call for it's cancellation and non-existance.

That is how the first amendement work. They can produce whatever they want and I get to criticize it. In this case, I am very much criticizing it and want people to simply know about the tastelessness this shows desplays

That's calling for its cancellation though....telling people not to watch it leads to less ratings which leads to those people getting less money. Or ya could just tell people what the show is and they will decide themselves.

America has no impact on the Japanese market so I say I have some leniency with what I say. Regardless of how bad a show is, the Japanese market determines popularity and sales and not the American market. People may not need to heed my advice but that would be my recommendation with this show: avoid at all costs

Then ya still let the person go watch the show to form their own opinion, also NA does have some impact if it's shown we don't watch a said show they pretty much don't bother bringing over everything (kinda like how we STILL DON'T HAVE DETECTIVE CONAN SUBBED *sigh*). Without these shows they wouldn't find it profitable to show their shows over here, because then we would be stuck with tons of show that fit the environment of the west. That would be boring as heck.

The license holders are the ones that determine whether a show gets shown here but it doesn't determine whether it gets popular in Japan or made. I understand people being pissed off that a show is not brought here but ultimately, the companies that take licenses like Crunchyroll determine exposure in the states and the consumer can say they want one or the other but that's it

*sigh* and you think telling people not to watch a show just because of your idea of it, really makes them to want to license more shows here? We even though we're in NA contribute to the anime industry by watching and or buying said shows, it helps with the creation of said shows and more of said shows. It's kinda like in gaming Neptunia is still being made not because Japan actually buys it, it's because the west buys it.

Heck the most recent example is Space Dandy on Toonami, if we in NA didn't watch the show with the amount of views we did then they wouldn't bother making more shows like that even in Japan.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

Berserk was actually well written, Cross Ange is just cheap

It would be like comparing Shakespeare and Twilight fanservice. Rape can be used well in a story but this was so tasteless and framed so poorly that there is no defense of this show.

K then if you don't like it don't watch it, calling for its cancellation or non-existence is the same as censoring it. Then when you get into that territory it leads to things like the well written Berserk to be censored to. So just leave the crap alone.

I called for people to avoid it and demonize it, I did not call for it's cancellation and non-existance.

That is how the first amendement work. They can produce whatever they want and I get to criticize it. In this case, I am very much criticizing it and want people to simply know about the tastelessness this shows desplays

That's calling for its cancellation though....telling people not to watch it leads to less ratings which leads to those people getting less money. Or ya could just tell people what the show is and they will decide themselves.

America has no impact on the Japanese market so I say I have some leniency with what I say. Regardless of how bad a show is, the Japanese market determines popularity and sales and not the American market. People may not need to heed my advice but that would be my recommendation with this show: avoid at all costs

Then ya still let the person go watch the show to form their own opinion, also NA does have some impact if it's shown we don't watch a said show they pretty much don't bother bringing over everything (kinda like how we STILL DON'T HAVE DETECTIVE CONAN SUBBED *sigh*). Without these shows they wouldn't find it profitable to show their shows over here, because then we would be stuck with tons of show that fit the environment of the west. That would be boring as heck.

The license holders are the ones that determine whether a show gets shown here but it doesn't determine whether it gets popular in Japan or made. I understand people being pissed off that a show is not brought here but ultimately, the companies that take licenses like Crunchyroll determine exposure in the states and the consumer can say they want one or the other but that's it

*sigh* and you think telling people not to watch a show just because of your idea of it, really makes them to want to license more shows here? We even though we're in NA contribute to the anime industry by watching and or buying said shows, it helps with the creation of said shows and more of said shows. It's kinda like in gaming Neptunia is still being made not because Japan actually buys it, it's because the west buys it.

Heck the most recent example is Space Dandy on Toonami, if we in NA didn't watch the show with the amount of views we did then they wouldn't bother making more shows like that even in Japan.

My opinion is not that of an established critic so it hold little weight. Also, do you really want shows of this poor caliber of writing to be licensed. We need to make a display that we will not accept poor quality shows like this

Space Dandy was as far as I can tell an an exception due to how popular Cowboy Bebop was in the states. While stuff is made for the west, the vast majority is eastern focused and based on that audience, we matter little compared to them.

 

[PDugna]

My opinion is not that of an established critic so it hold little weight. Also, do you really want shows of this poor caliber of writing to be licensed. We need to make a display that we will not accept poor quality shows like this

Space Dandy was as far as I can tell an an exception due to how popular Cowboy Bebop was in the states. While stuff is made for the west, the vast majority is eastern focused and based on that audience, we matter little compared to them.

Actually yes I do want them to license this stuff, because it has an audience and it gives more money to the licensers leading to more money to license more shows. If we stopped licensing certain shows we would spend seasons with only like 2 or 3 shows to watch which would kill interest in japan even bringing said shows over.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

My opinion is not that of an established critic so it hold little weight. Also, do you really want shows of this poor caliber of writing to be licensed. We need to make a display that we will not accept poor quality shows like this

Space Dandy was as far as I can tell an an exception due to how popular Cowboy Bebop was in the states. While stuff is made for the west, the vast majority is eastern focused and based on that audience, we matter little compared to them.

Actually yes I do want them to license this stuff, because it has an audience and it gives more money to the licensers leading to more money to license more shows. If we stopped licensing certain shows we would spend seasons with only like 2 or 3 shows to watch which would kill interest in japan even bringing said shows over.

so be it. I understand wanting more shows to come over but I say we be more critical about it and make sure that good shows get brought over. I suppose thought that there is an audience but even shows with an audience must be put thorough a critical eye and considered if worth our time or not.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over there and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

This.

I'll give it to Japan. At least they make the things they want to make, and damn the consequences of the moral authority.

I don't see how it's hard to just not watch the things you dislike if it offends you so much. Barring a few, I don't really like the Harem fanservice shows, and that's ok. I have plenty of other shows to choose from, and the people who do like it can like it all they want.

Simple.

 

[PDugna]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over there and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

This.

I'll give it to Japan. At least they make the things they want to make, and damn the consequences of the moral authority.

I don't see how it's hard to just not watch the things you dislike if it offends you so much. Barring a few, I don't really like the Harem fanservice shows, and that's ok. I have plenty of other shows to choose from, and the people who do like it can like it all they want.

Simple.

Yeah makes me sad that some people in the west call One Piece misogynistic just because some of the main cast have big tits. Makes me want to punch them all in the face for ignoring the rich background history of characters like Nami and Robin just because they hate "objectification" uggh. They even went as far as to call Franky some sorta weapon of the patriarchy because of his fight so far in Dressarossa.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over there and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

This.

I'll give it to Japan. At least they make the things they want to make, and damn the consequences of the moral authority.

I don't see how it's hard to just not watch the things you dislike if it offends you so much. Barring a few, I don't really like the Harem fanservice shows, and that's ok. I have plenty of other shows to choose from, and the people who do like it can like it all they want.

Simple.

Yeah makes me sad that some people in the west call One Piece misogynistic just because some of the main cast have big tits. Makes me want to punch them all in the face for ignoring the rich background history or characters like Nami and Robin just because they hate "objectification" uggh. They even went as far as to call Franky some sorta weapon of the patriarchy because of his fight so far in Dressarossa.

Yea, because no one has any problems with Luffy or Zoro showing off their six pack abs all the time. It's Nami and Robin who are "objectified" ( Even though they technically are objects since...they don't actually exist...)

 

[PDugna]

I'm so glad that Japan gives no fucks about most of this stuff and just makes whatever they want, the day the offended police get over there and get their tainted hands in the media is the day I give up on this world. Because we sure as wouldn't have stuff like Berserk

This.

I'll give it to Japan. At least they make the things they want to make, and damn the consequences of the moral authority.

I don't see how it's hard to just not watch the things you dislike if it offends you so much. Barring a few, I don't really like the Harem fanservice shows, and that's ok. I have plenty of other shows to choose from, and the people who do like it can like it all they want.

Simple.

Yeah makes me sad that some people in the west call One Piece misogynistic just because some of the main cast have big tits. Makes me want to punch them all in the face for ignoring the rich background history or characters like Nami and Robin just because they hate "objectification" uggh. They even went as far as to call Franky some sorta weapon of the patriarchy because of his fight so far in Dressarossa.

Yea, because no one has any problems with Luffy or Zoro showing off their six pack abs all the time. It's Nami and Robin who are "objectified" ( Even though they technically are objects since...they don't actually exist...)

It annoys me that it always happens like that, many of the female characters in One Piece can be great as they're because they're not sheltered into being this perfect being in femnists eyes. Heck funny thing about anime, is that most of the fanservice shows that have only women cast pass the bechdel test with flying colors. Queen's Blade for example does this with flying colors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehW-Z8Ng5zA