Metal Gear Rising: why the hate?
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I think it's just because nobody really likes Raiden. Like, at all. And I don't get that, I like Raiden. I actually prefer him to Snake, a statement that has earned me hatred up to and including death threats from hardcore Metal Gear fans.
Because it's incredibly over the top and just generally completely absurd.
Which I personally approve of, mind you, but I can see how it would bother some people. Honestly, this looks more over the top than DMC, if anything, like some sort of Metal Gear version of Asura's Wrath.
Okay, maybe not quite that silly.
Which I personally approve of, mind you, but I can see how it would bother some people. Honestly, this looks more over the top than DMC, if anything, like some sort of Metal Gear version of Asura's Wrath.
Okay, maybe not quite that silly.
I have no idea, Platinum have nothing if not a great record. I for one am patiently awaiting this game.
It has nothing to do with Raiden, or how it's not a stealth game. I doubt it was really going to be stealth originally anyway (although if you watch the documentary Konami has released, the problem was they actually wanted it to be both stealth and action).
It's the feel... If you watch the original trailer, then the new one, you'll get what I mean. PlatinumGames does action in a much different way than the Kojima team, and it just shows. From big changes (Ray thrown into the air, "IT'S TIME FOR JACK TO LET EM RIP!!!"), to not so big ones (notice how in the first trailer it took one cut to kill a soldier, while in the new one Raiden just wails on them till he gets super mode and cuts then to ribbons).
I'll probably still be playing it, it's going to be a great game. Just not Metal Gear I think.
It's the feel... If you watch the original trailer, then the new one, you'll get what I mean. PlatinumGames does action in a much different way than the Kojima team, and it just shows. From big changes (Ray thrown into the air, "IT'S TIME FOR JACK TO LET EM RIP!!!"), to not so big ones (notice how in the first trailer it took one cut to kill a soldier, while in the new one Raiden just wails on them till he gets super mode and cuts then to ribbons).
I'll probably still be playing it, it's going to be a great game. Just not Metal Gear I think.
Basically, this. People were expecting another MGS game, but got DMC with Raiden pasted in without much warning.Galite said:
Because its such a drastic departure from the main series and was initially pitched and shown as a semi steath game where you had sword instead of a gun and would have to make use of movement to remain stealthy, on top of pretty drastic story changes ie taking place after 4 instead of between 2-4. Is it really that hard to imagine that most fans of the series aren't looking forward to what when initially announced was supposed to be a stealth sword game has become a hack and slash with some pretty major changes. It's just not what the majority of fans expected or even want.
It annoys me because if it's considered canon then there's no point what so ever in having any other character ever.
If Raiden is capable of slicing up hundreds of metal gears on his own without breaking a sweat then that's it, game over. Raiden rules the world because nothing can kill him and the whole metal gear universe just goes to pot.
Why call in snake when you can just get Raiden to obliterate everything?
If Raiden is capable of slicing up hundreds of metal gears on his own without breaking a sweat then that's it, game over. Raiden rules the world because nothing can kill him and the whole metal gear universe just goes to pot.
Why call in snake when you can just get Raiden to obliterate everything?
You're aware that Kojima had actually cancelled MGS:Rising yes? That's why there was no news for a year. After they had the initial concept and the idea for the stages/environments they realised that they wouldn't be able to make it work as effectively as they had imagined. So rather than say any of this, they just swept it under the rug and hoped that nobody would ask questions about it.Galite said:
The reason it did a complete 180 is because Platinum said "Yeah...we can make it work" and make it work they did. I find it funny that people are complaining about it saying that this isn't what Rising should be like despite the fact that aside from the trailer from over a year ago there is no other way it had been done.
People are bitching and moaning and crying "RUINED FOREVER!!!" without realising that if Platinum Games hadn't come along, the game wouldn't exist at all.
I was a bit confused there, glad that's cleared up. I also thought it was just going to be a hack and slash. I mean, you're a robot ninja. The first trailer I remember seeing involved tearing out a robo-spine. What do you expect?Sober Thal said:
Doesn't matter if it's 'different than what was once shown', as that game was about to be scrapped entirely. Platinum Games volunteered to take up the project, and Kojima asked that they meet two conditions: Raiden moves fast at a steady 60 FPS and that the controls are buttery smooth.
Also, does anybody else think that the Rival Cyborg looked like Shunsui from Bleach?
I'm mainly a PC gamer who loves games all around and hate seeing this attitude among PC gamers. Quit making us out to be a bunch of condescending pricks.mad825 said:
Also, does anybody else think that the Rival Cyborg looked like Shunsui from Bleach?
Metal Gear Solid 4 is the one game that makes me feel the pain of not having a PS3. Every other game I want to play either came out for the 360 or I don't care about (well, maybe that and The Last Guardian).
So I was quite excited we'd be getting a Metal Gear game for 360. And I only grumbled a little bit when I found it would be starring the "guy" nobody liked from MGS2. But this new trailer makes it look like they tossed the stealth out the window, and I can't remember the last time I enjoyed the fighting in a Metal Gear game.
So yeah, maybe it'll be good on its own merits, but it doesn't look like it'll build on the things I loved about past games in the series. I might play it, I might enjoy it wholeheartedly, but if I don't get to creep around in a cardboard box then the 360 still won't have a Metal Gear game.
So I was quite excited we'd be getting a Metal Gear game for 360. And I only grumbled a little bit when I found it would be starring the "guy" nobody liked from MGS2. But this new trailer makes it look like they tossed the stealth out the window, and I can't remember the last time I enjoyed the fighting in a Metal Gear game.
So yeah, maybe it'll be good on its own merits, but it doesn't look like it'll build on the things I loved about past games in the series. I might play it, I might enjoy it wholeheartedly, but if I don't get to creep around in a cardboard box then the 360 still won't have a Metal Gear game.
And also the fact that it was originally was made to be Between 2 and 4 to show Raiden how he became his Cyborg Ninja. But now they changed the story to AFTER, which makes no freaking sense. EVERYTHING was solved at the end of MGS4, no cliff hangers, no secret villians. Nothing.GundamSentinel said: