Because its such a drastic departure from the main series and was initially pitched and shown as a semi steath game where you had sword instead of a gun and would have to make use of movement to remain stealthy, on top of pretty drastic story changes ie taking place after 4 instead of between 2-4. Is it really that hard to imagine that most fans of the series aren't looking forward to what when initially announced was supposed to be a stealth sword game has become a hack and slash with some pretty major changes. It's just not what the majority of fans expected or even want.
Metal Gear Rising: why the hate?
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It annoys me because if it's considered canon then there's no point what so ever in having any other character ever.
If Raiden is capable of slicing up hundreds of metal gears on his own without breaking a sweat then that's it, game over. Raiden rules the world because nothing can kill him and the whole metal gear universe just goes to pot.
Why call in snake when you can just get Raiden to obliterate everything?
If Raiden is capable of slicing up hundreds of metal gears on his own without breaking a sweat then that's it, game over. Raiden rules the world because nothing can kill him and the whole metal gear universe just goes to pot.
Why call in snake when you can just get Raiden to obliterate everything?
You're aware that Kojima had actually cancelled MGS:Rising yes? That's why there was no news for a year. After they had the initial concept and the idea for the stages/environments they realised that they wouldn't be able to make it work as effectively as they had imagined. So rather than say any of this, they just swept it under the rug and hoped that nobody would ask questions about it.Galite said:
The reason it did a complete 180 is because Platinum said "Yeah...we can make it work" and make it work they did. I find it funny that people are complaining about it saying that this isn't what Rising should be like despite the fact that aside from the trailer from over a year ago there is no other way it had been done.
People are bitching and moaning and crying "RUINED FOREVER!!!" without realising that if Platinum Games hadn't come along, the game wouldn't exist at all.
I was a bit confused there, glad that's cleared up. I also thought it was just going to be a hack and slash. I mean, you're a robot ninja. The first trailer I remember seeing involved tearing out a robo-spine. What do you expect?Sober Thal said:
Doesn't matter if it's 'different than what was once shown', as that game was about to be scrapped entirely. Platinum Games volunteered to take up the project, and Kojima asked that they meet two conditions: Raiden moves fast at a steady 60 FPS and that the controls are buttery smooth.
Also, does anybody else think that the Rival Cyborg looked like Shunsui from Bleach?
I'm mainly a PC gamer who loves games all around and hate seeing this attitude among PC gamers. Quit making us out to be a bunch of condescending pricks.mad825 said:
Also, does anybody else think that the Rival Cyborg looked like Shunsui from Bleach?
Metal Gear Solid 4 is the one game that makes me feel the pain of not having a PS3. Every other game I want to play either came out for the 360 or I don't care about (well, maybe that and The Last Guardian).
So I was quite excited we'd be getting a Metal Gear game for 360. And I only grumbled a little bit when I found it would be starring the "guy" nobody liked from MGS2. But this new trailer makes it look like they tossed the stealth out the window, and I can't remember the last time I enjoyed the fighting in a Metal Gear game.
So yeah, maybe it'll be good on its own merits, but it doesn't look like it'll build on the things I loved about past games in the series. I might play it, I might enjoy it wholeheartedly, but if I don't get to creep around in a cardboard box then the 360 still won't have a Metal Gear game.
So I was quite excited we'd be getting a Metal Gear game for 360. And I only grumbled a little bit when I found it would be starring the "guy" nobody liked from MGS2. But this new trailer makes it look like they tossed the stealth out the window, and I can't remember the last time I enjoyed the fighting in a Metal Gear game.
So yeah, maybe it'll be good on its own merits, but it doesn't look like it'll build on the things I loved about past games in the series. I might play it, I might enjoy it wholeheartedly, but if I don't get to creep around in a cardboard box then the 360 still won't have a Metal Gear game.
And also the fact that it was originally was made to be Between 2 and 4 to show Raiden how he became his Cyborg Ninja. But now they changed the story to AFTER, which makes no freaking sense. EVERYTHING was solved at the end of MGS4, no cliff hangers, no secret villians. Nothing.GundamSentinel said:
Really? Just . . . really!?! Ugh. This is why I hesitate to ever call myself a fan of any given series, people take games way too seriously.ReservoirAngel said:
The rumors are that Kojima's team are still doing the story, Platinum is doing the gameplay. I'm too lazy to try and confirm that, though.TehCookie said:
OT: I love how people are denouncing it as a "button-masher" when all we've seen is an updated trailer showing an extremely small section of the game, without even showing a person actually controlling the character. How do you automatically know it'll be a "button-masher"? Because Devil May Cry was? Stop right there,
EDIT: Oh, and the game has been announced for like, two years now. In all of that time it has been about "Lightning Bolt Action" documenting Raiden alone. Stop acting surprised that it's an action game focused on Raiden.
Individuals that have no knowledge of the story or how the game actually plays like to throw out aspersions because they can't accept a change, even though that's the biggest criticism of a long running series: stagnation.
I for one, believe it was a fantastic idea bringing Platinum Games (no one can deny their credentials) for the game as they actually have a chance of making it fun to play. The early trailers did not look for exciting gameplay. That and the faith that the story will be solid and I think this will be an impressive game.
I for one, believe it was a fantastic idea bringing Platinum Games (no one can deny their credentials) for the game as they actually have a chance of making it fun to play. The early trailers did not look for exciting gameplay. That and the faith that the story will be solid and I think this will be an impressive game.
Completely true. MGS was done, the story finished. A story about Raiden I could live with, but not set after MGS4. Sure, it's now a spin-off, but that doesn't mean it should completely ignore what MGS was.Korten12 said:
I swear I read a Game Informer (or some such) article about how it was going to be a fast paced stealth game with very detailed dismemberment, and enemies would typically die with one such strike. But that would have been a few months or maybe even a year ago, so my memory isn't to be trusted entirely.Sober Thal said:
oh I see what you did thereomega 616 said:
on topic: I reserve my opinion on it
seems fine, but if its really not gonna come out on PC, then I am not gonna get it, as I don't own any of the consoles
This might make some people angry but I'm looking forward to this game (and the new devil may cry). I'm a big fan of over the top hack and slash games and I couldn't be happier for a chance to play as cyborg ninja Raiden.
As for all the hate, well take that with a grain of salt. The people complaining about MG Rising the most will be same ones at its midnight launch.
As for all the hate, well take that with a grain of salt. The people complaining about MG Rising the most will be same ones at its midnight launch.
People don't like change, or spinoffs.
But I strongly suggest people watch the 30 minute documentary that has been made about the rise and fall of Metal Gear Rising (it's on youtube) as that explains why it's not the game that was announced and I, personally, believe they made the right decision in not making the game they had originally intended to.
But I strongly suggest people watch the 30 minute documentary that has been made about the rise and fall of Metal Gear Rising (it's on youtube) as that explains why it's not the game that was announced and I, personally, believe they made the right decision in not making the game they had originally intended to.
It's not going to be anything like the announced game we'll probably end up with another typical Devil May Cry/God of War/Bayonetta slash em up when I was really looking forward to the original system, especially with Move controls.