Metal Gear Rising: why the hate?

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dedem1315

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I liked the original concept better. Had better graphics, better gameplay elements (in my opinion) and just looked less like a rip off of DmC. I'll probably still buy this, but not until the price drops.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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chinangel said:
I scratch my head at all the rage directed at the new metal gear rising game. Largely because I don't understand it. I have played a large chunk of the Metal Gear games, and this newest one looks great. People are pissing and moaning that the game isn't 'like the other metal gear solid games'. Well...yeah. You're entirely right.

That's because it's NOT a Metal Gear SOLID game. It's Metal Gear RISING. Kind of like a side-story. Secondly, the cyborg ninja has always fought like this. Very much bombastic and in-your-face outrageous. Let's not forget Grey Fox's intro in MGS. He appears in sprays of blood, carrying a dead guy on his sword, and it only went up from there. The ninja's only 'stealth' was a cloaking generator.

So...someone please explain to me why everyone is up in arms over this. Are their complaints legitimate, or is this just a case of gamers being contrary because something is being changed?
People fear change, especially video game changes. I always welcome change. Sometimes it sucks, sometimes its a relatively good surprise.
 

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I'm a HUGE Metal Gear SOLID fan and I have absolutely NO ISSUES with this game. I'm actually highly anticipating the game about 100x more than I did beforehand, I really didn't want a serious Metal Gear Solid game starring Raiden to be honest. But now with Platinum making the game, I'm totally stoked. They are going to make basically the equivalent of a really cheesy and awesome B-movie revenge/REVENGEANCE!!! flick. Raiden's voice is already 100x more gravelly in the trailer. Platinum is going to give Raiden every cool cliche in the book while being 100% self-aware that Raiden is not cool.

I don't even understand the story hate because I'm sure the story isn't going to change anything. You guys are totally over analyzing it. It'll probably be like Raiden getting back Rose or Sunny and everything is going to return to status quo anyways. So, what we are going to get is just an epically awesome Platinum game in the Metal Gear universe, and I CAN'T WAIT.
 

mad825

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Daniel Elfrank said:
mad825 said:
Metal Gear Rising is no longer going to be on the PC so I have the right to hate....Oh wait, this is a fan issue.
I'm mainly a PC gamer who loves games all around and hate seeing this attitude among PC gamers. Quit making us out to be a bunch of condescending pricks.
Perhaps they shouldn't have announced it for the PC then unannounced it? Me being a prick? they're the pricks, I'm merely reacting to the stimuli.

Stop being self-righteous.
 

Spacewolf

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Because he picks up a ray and smashes it into a building it wouldnt be bad if it was a gekko but a ray just seems to be pushing it as far as willing suspension goes
 

Crazedc00k

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mad825 said:
Metal Gear Rising is no longer going to be on the PC so I have the right to hate....Oh wait, this is a fan issue.
Pretty disappointing to see this. As a PC gamer, I hate it when PC players give console fanboys a reason to say "PC gamers think that they're better." Normally there's no substance to that, so don't give em any ammunition.

OT: I'm completely uninformed here, but I thought this was going to PS3 AND Xbox. If so, it might be Playstation fans wanting all of the "Good Metal Gear" to themselves.
 

mad825

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Crazedc00k said:
mad825 said:
Metal Gear Rising is no longer going to be on the PC so I have the right to hate....Oh wait, this is a fan issue.
Pretty disappointing to see this. As a PC gamer, I hate it when PC players give console fanboys a reason to say "PC gamers think that they're better." Normally there's no substance to that, so don't give em any ammunition.
Wtf are you talking about? You've taken my quote way out of context and never suggested in anyway to say that.

You know, not everyone has a PS3 and/or Xbox 360.
 

Crazedc00k

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mad825 said:
Crazedc00k said:
mad825 said:
Metal Gear Rising is no longer going to be on the PC so I have the right to hate....Oh wait, this is a fan issue.
Pretty disappointing to see this. As a PC gamer, I hate it when PC players give console fanboys a reason to say "PC gamers think that they're better." Normally there's no substance to that, so don't give em any ammunition.
Wtf are you talking about? You've taken my quote way out of context and never suggested in anyway to say that.

You know, not everyone has a PS3 and/or Xbox 360.
Quoted your entire post so I'm not sure what you mean about out of context--you threw out something that sounded pretty PC fanboyish, and I wanted to correct the image of PC gamers in the eyes of rational forum-goers. YOU didn't say PC gamers are better, but your post might be construed to mean that and that gets unpleasant. I meant no disrespect to you, rather to people who might take your comment the wrong way.
 

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They seem to have abandoned the entire stealth aspect, since originally it was supposed to have an aggressive "hunt the people hunting you" stealth instead of the standard hide from people until you can get by stealth, but the newest trailer makes it look like it is pure hack and slash. Then Platinum changed it to take place after 4 instead of between 2 and 4. So that is why people are mad about it. Personally, I am disappointed for the setting change, but I still really want it. It looks like the type of game I have wanted recently.
 

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Crazedc00k said:
Quoted your entire post so I'm not sure what you mean about out of context--you threw out something that sounded pretty PC fanboyish
just because the word "PC" was mentioned? if the post was read, the part that said "no longer" should have gave a clear reason behind my post.

and I wanted to correct the image of PC gamers in the eyes of rational forum-goers
*snigger*


YOU didn't say PC gamers are better, but your post might be construed to mean that and that gets unpleasant. I meant no disrespect to you, rather to people who might take your comment the wrong way.
Uh-huh, hence why your post was passive aggressive.

So far, the only negative feedback was a guy complaining about PC gamers are bunch of loving care bears just like Console gamers :)
 

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Woodsey said:
I'd imagine they're pissed because the game's been completely changed from what it was announced as.

Not to mention that atrocious fucking subtitle. I find that insulting, and you couldn't pay me to play MGS.

'Revengeance'. *shudder*
But the subtitle is so hilarious and awesome =(


I dunno, I'm giving Platinum Games the benefit of the doubt for now, between them and their Clover days they haven't made a SINGLE bad game. Not one. So I'm going to give this a chance.
 

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chinangel said:
I scratch my head at all the rage directed at the new metal gear rising game. Largely because I don't understand it. I have played a large chunk of the Metal Gear games, and this newest one looks great. People are pissing and moaning that the game isn't 'like the other metal gear solid games'. Well...yeah. You're entirely right.

That's because it's NOT a Metal Gear SOLID game. It's Metal Gear RISING. Kind of like a side-story. Secondly, the cyborg ninja has always fought like this. Very much bombastic and in-your-face outrageous. Let's not forget Grey Fox's intro in MGS. He appears in sprays of blood, carrying a dead guy on his sword, and it only went up from there. The ninja's only 'stealth' was a cloaking generator.

So...someone please explain to me why everyone is up in arms over this. Are their complaints legitimate, or is this just a case of gamers being contrary because something is being changed?
It originally was a Metal Gear Solid game. Then they changed that behind the scenes. The new trailer's not quite what we were promised.
 

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Well, aside from everything else, it simply looks shit on it's own merits. I'm not a fan of that kind of game. Besides from that, it's still supposedly part of the Metal Gear universe, and it just doesn't fit with the the rest of the franchise. Even the teaser trailer we got last year seemed like it would be better, but this is completely different. I can buy into the idea that as a spin-off it's not going to be like other MG games, but this is a bit much. It's like an entirely separate game, just with 'Metal Gear' in the title as a cash-in. Of course I might be proved wrong when we actually get to play it, but I doubt it highly.
 
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The game looks fucking ridiculous, even compared to MGS standards.

And it will take itself seriously, every step of the way, while trying to get across some ridiculous pseudo political message.

Judging from the trailer, the disconnection between what Raiden does in cutscenes and what he can actually do from a gameplay perspective is going to be huge.
 

xXTheParadoxXx

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because this is what we were shown last year

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AtM3PGyiQUc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

and this is what we were shown this year

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5SNo8h-KfAU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

spot the difference?
 

xXTheParadoxXx

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embed didn't work.
here's the links.
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtM3PGyiQUc
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SNo8h-KfAU
 

brumley53

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My main problem is that the new one just looks annoying. Everytime raiden moves his arms everything explodes with lightning and every time he hits someone they splatter blood and lightning everywhere even though they haven't even been cut in half. The worst thing is that Raiden in MGS4 was finally given some balls and was made to be a silent badass ninja, and then they turn him into Sonic the Hedgehog shouting off stupid jokes while fighting.

Even if this is a spin off, the whole Metal Gear series including other spin offs have always been absurd but played straight. They've changed the whole tone of the game and it barely has anything to do with the Metal Gear series, I reckon they should just call it something else.
 

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mad825 said:
Crazedc00k said:
Quoted your entire post so I'm not sure what you mean about out of context--you threw out something that sounded pretty PC fanboyish
just because the word "PC" was mentioned? if the post was read, the part that said "no longer" should have gave a clear reason behind my post.

and I wanted to correct the image of PC gamers in the eyes of rational forum-goers
*snigger*


YOU didn't say PC gamers are better, but your post might be construed to mean that and that gets unpleasant. I meant no disrespect to you, rather to people who might take your comment the wrong way.
Uh-huh, hence why your post was passive aggressive.

So far, the only negative feedback was a guy complaining about PC gamers are bunch of loving care bears just like Console gamers :)
Guess you took that the wrong way. Oh well.