Metal Gear Solid 4 On 360?

[the_tralfalmadorian]

wow....what's with the sudden explosion of fanboy-ism on the escapist. i thought this was a more mature forum.

seriously though, they're just computers. They don't require your fanatical devotion....


anyways, back on topic. Nah, i somehow doubt the 360 will get MGS4. oh well, not that big a deal.

 

[Caimekaze]

It won't.
Hideo said he'd stop the series if it was ^^;

...
Bugger.

 

[Crimson89]

if MGS4 came out for any other console then there would hardly be a reason to buy a PS3, its not like its completely rubbish or anything, it just doesn't have many quality titles.

 

[Mr Scott]

If anything the factor holding back a 360 port is a certain degree of Hideo Kojima's "loyalty" to Sony, which only... kinda made the Metal Gear Solid games popular. Even though the latest console MGS was made a generation back, I can see a shitstorm of a fanboy riot if there were simultaneous or even later port of MGS4 to a MICROSOFT game console, eigo wa hanasimasu ka? Amerika jin?

 

[end_boss]

Just in case nobody brought it up yet, there have already been at least two games that are released on multiple discs for the 360. Capacity is not the issue at all.

 

[Fire Daemon]

Damn if the Blue ray disks are getting filled up then that game is going to take forever to load. You do know Blue ray is slow as shit right?

Well anyway, I couldn't care about MGS4, sure it looks good but it hardly merits the buying of a console. And as I have not played number one or three I don't care what happens.

 

[Saskwach]

Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

Now I don't expect MGS4 to come to 360 and don't really care but I'm calling bullshit on 49.7 gigs. How big is Crysis? 12 GB. You cannot tell me that MGS4 is really, truly using that disc space and couldn't cut out a whole bunch of it. This sounds like one of those bullshit quotes Sony isn't against making for the sake of point scoring. When people ask why MGS4 won't be ported to 360? Oh, it's too massive. That's right this game is too big for that pathetic machine.

 

[wyldefire]

This has been said already but I'll say it again for good measure, Hideo said that the fifty gig blu-ray disc he was using was not big enough for his vision of MGS4. The 360 uses a DVD disc that only holds 7-9 gigs of data, meaninging you need at least five discs, which is more than a little unwieldy. This along with Kojima's loyalty to Sony makes a port practically non-existant. In addition to that MGS4 is a system seller the same way Halo or Gears is, so the argument that it will be ported because no one has a PS3 loses some of its merit. As for Sony paying of Konami, yeah that's possible, but in given their history it is not likely. It is just not something they do very often, as evidenced by the fact they did't throw piles of money at R* or Capcom to keep GTA and DMC exclusive.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

Now I don't expect MGS4 to come to 360 and don't really care but I'm calling bullshit on 49.7 gigs. How big is Crysis? 12 GB. You cannot tell me that MGS4 is really, truly using that disc space and couldn't cut out a whole bunch of it. This sounds like one of those bullshit quotes Sony isn't against making for the sake of point scoring. When people ask why MGS4 won't be ported to 360? Oh, it's too massive. That's right this game is too big for that pathetic machine.

Hideo himself said it, and i think he said that even the Blu-Ray was too small for his vision, he had to cut out a lot of the stuff he wanted in. I'm inclined to say its true. And you could, hypothetically, cut out some of it, but then what would be the point of porting it? Cut out most of it, and it will be a lacklustre adventure with poor graphics, stupid AI, and way too short.

I'd imagine a lot of the space would be used on cutscenes and lengthy, lengthy exposition. I've never found the MGS games to pack too much of a WOW factor graphics-wise. They are good looking games don't get me wrong, but there have been games that are visually better on the system.

 

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

My God is this gonna be on every game website there is?

MGS4 isn't coming to 360, get over it!

The only chance it will come is if GeOW2 or Halo 4 (or "Halo Wars" if that counts) goes to PS3...and that isn't happening.

 

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

My God is this gonna be on every game website there is?

MGS4 isn't coming to 360, get over it!

The only chance it will come is if GeOW2 or Halo 4 (or "Halo Wars" if that counts) goes to PS3...and that isn't happening.

Why would we want them?

Just trying to make a point.

MGS4 = PS3 EXCLUSIVE!

The only way they will let PS3 over to 360, is if MS gives up one of their exclusives too, which won't happen.

 

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

EDIT: I think I posted in the wrong thread..ehehe..oops. Sorry.

 

[ultra_v_89]

When I went from playstation to xbox, I was afraid the game lines I was playing wouldn't be on it, MGS was one such line, if it isn't on the 360, I will miss it terribly.

 

[Mr_Cynical]

Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

Now I don't expect MGS4 to come to 360 and don't really care but I'm calling bullshit on 49.7 gigs. How big is Crysis? 12 GB. You cannot tell me that MGS4 is really, truly using that disc space and couldn't cut out a whole bunch of it. This sounds like one of those bullshit quotes Sony isn't against making for the sake of point scoring. When people ask why MGS4 won't be ported to 360? Oh, it's too massive. That's right this game is too big for that pathetic machine.

Methinks most of that 49.7Gb is gonna be cutscenes.
Don't get me wrong, I loved MGS, and mostly enjoyed MGS2, but Jesus, the amount of cutscenes and lengthy Codec conversations drove me mad. Especially running through it the 4th or 5th time.
I have no doubt that it is gonna be one hell of a beautiful game, but how long are you going to be sat just watching it, getting blinded by bloom-lighting effects?

 

[Fire Daemon]

Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

Now I don't expect MGS4 to come to 360 and don't really care but I'm calling bullshit on 49.7 gigs. How big is Crysis? 12 GB. You cannot tell me that MGS4 is really, truly using that disc space and couldn't cut out a whole bunch of it. This sounds like one of those bullshit quotes Sony isn't against making for the sake of point scoring. When people ask why MGS4 won't be ported to 360? Oh, it's too massive. That's right this game is too big for that pathetic machine.

Methinks most of that 49.7Gb is gonna be cutscenes.
Don't get me wrong, I loved MGS, and mostly enjoyed MGS2, but Jesus, the amount of cutscenes and lengthy Codec conversations drove me mad. Especially running through it the 4th or 5th time.
I have no doubt that it is gonna be one hell of a beautiful game, but how long are you going to be sat just watching it, getting blinded by bloom-lighting effects?

Long enough for me to drink in the awe inspiring plot and cinematography that makes Hideo Kojima a revered Director and Writer. Yet again why it wouldn't work on the 360 - It has plot.

I think I speak for the Escapist when I say that we have had enough of your blatant console insults. This is a place for intelligent conversations with a theme of videogames, not for flinging waste at your hated companies. If you want to talk about the 360 please make it constructive and less "fanboylike"

If you want to insult a pile of wire and plastic why can't you do that whithout insulting those that bought that pile of plastic and wire.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Long enough for me to drink in the awe inspiring plot and cinematography that makes Hideo Kojima a revered Director and Writer.

Grr. Stop rubbing it in. I've accepted that it won't be on the 360, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it. The only way I'll be able to get a PS3 is if I sell my 360. There is NO WAY, I am having all three consoles of a gen again, not at these prices.

And as for the awe inspiring plot and cinematography, I'd be completely sated with a graphic novel. These have been the only games I've ever bought like books - for the sake of plot and nothing else.

 

[Apone]

Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

Now I don't expect MGS4 to come to 360 and don't really care but I'm calling bullshit on 49.7 gigs. How big is Crysis? 12 GB. You cannot tell me that MGS4 is really, truly using that disc space and couldn't cut out a whole bunch of it. This sounds like one of those bullshit quotes Sony isn't against making for the sake of point scoring. When people ask why MGS4 won't be ported to 360? Oh, it's too massive. That's right this game is too big for that pathetic machine.

Methinks most of that 49.7Gb is gonna be cutscenes.
Don't get me wrong, I loved MGS, and mostly enjoyed MGS2, but Jesus, the amount of cutscenes and lengthy Codec conversations drove me mad. Especially running through it the 4th or 5th time.
I have no doubt that it is gonna be one hell of a beautiful game, but how long are you going to be sat just watching it, getting blinded by bloom-lighting effects?

Long enough for me to drink in the awe inspiring plot and cinematography that makes Hideo Kojima a revered Director and Writer. Yet again why it wouldn't work on the 360 - It has plot.

I think I speak for the Escapist when I say that we have had enough of your blatant console insults. This is a place for intelligent conversations with a theme of videogames, not for flinging waste at your hated companies. If you want to talk about the 360 please make it constructive and less "fanboylike"

If you want to insult a pile of wire and plastic why can't you do that whithout insulting those that bought that pile of plastic and wire.

Agreed. Thank you Fire for putting that so well. We get that you don't like the Xbox Indigo. The cheap shots aren't needed now.

As for the whole it couldn't fit on the Blu-Ray disc. When I read about it in a gaming mag they said it sounded like another of Hideo's stunts. Complaining about it for one reason or another, whether as an excuse for the games lateness or just hyping what we all know will be another game a grand scope and artistic vision. Or just some pretty scenes and lengthy pretentious dialogue if it's not your thing.

As for it coming to 360, I would love that as I don't want to spend a load of money on another console to play one game. But i think it is unlikely. It is supposed to be an exclusive. One that Sony will feel they need to keep console sails high.

 

[JakubK666]

Why do you guys(majority) swallow Hideo's bullshit anyway?
50gb is a shit load a space.I will not believe that Hideo managed to fill it all up, even if he purposely tried to.The guy's probably hyping up his own game.

Assuming(hypothetically) that the game would fit on 1-2 DVD's(9.5gb-19gb of data),can you come up with any other reasons as to why MGS4 couldn't get ported to 360(I'm talking technical.No "Hideo is teh Sonyz Fanboi" BS)? Are 360-owners not smug enough?(j/k)


Saying that, the game probably won't come out on 360 anyway.

 

[shakeslol]

who cares though? I haven't enjoyed an MGS game since the first one.
The story is pretty pants too in my view.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Guysm, stop messing with him, jeez... Yeah, it's coming to 360, look below for a boxshot.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9026/mgs4xbox360oj1.png