Meth junkie burns down 3,500 year old tree

[zombie goat fetish]

Oh that's a shame, must of being a slow news day. So what is the oldest tree in the world ?

 

[A.A.K]

Individuals and their day to day lives are more important than any sort of pseudo immortality history bull. Humans are the only thing on this planet with any sort of real intrinsic value and we should treasure eachother. If you disagree than you disagree I guess.

Personally, humans aren't worth much.
I don't understand why you put so much faith, value or meaning on each life.

Every experience I've had, every teacher and every acquaintance I've met has just taught me that human life is meaningless; and individual human lives are only worth their deeds.

The "pseudo immortal bull" actually has meaning to someone with an appreciation for life around them. That pseudo immortal tree, stood through 3500 years of time. More then even our descendants will experience.

I disagree... it was neither magnificent, meaningful nor important... in fact all it ever did was take up space for a really long time... not really an achievement worth anything

if anything the girl is better because at least she will uselessly take up space for much shorter a time period

This kind of crap is entirely subjective. I'm aware what I'm saying is entirely subjective. Each one of us perceives the world differently, because reality is entirely subjective.

I think that you can't see any sort of weight or importance in that tree, or that you can't find some sort of appreciation for its beauty is really, really depressing.

...and that girl does more than just take up space. It's destruction for destructions' sake.
You don't think at some point she had family? friends? or a job? a pet? a hobby? whatever it was...she destroyed it.
She went to go get high in a staplemark of history - and burnt it down.

That's why people are pissed. Her existence had no real use to humanity, except for causing these arguments so people can learn from each others points of view because at the moment there's no middle ground in this discussion. It's just "Pro Tree" or "Pro All Human Life"

 

[Jegsimmons]

OH MY GOD!!! WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE!!!!!

seriously, and people want to legalize drugs....damn shame about the tree. 3,500 year old tree. thats older than jesus. what a shame.

 

[A.A.K]

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AH! APATHY! THE ONE TRUE NEUTRAL RESPONSE!

Depressing. Justified. Depressing. Actually one of the few beasts I never truly conquered yet Ah well.

 

[A.A.K]

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AH! APATHY! THE ONE TRUE NEUTRAL RESPONSE!

Depressing. Justified. Depressing. Actually one of the few beasts I never truly conquered yet Ah well.

apathy is very useful ... lol

Did I or did I not say it was justified? hahaha

 

[A Satanic Panda]

Why do so many people here have such a strong dislike for their own species so much?

 

[Coal143]

You mean someone burned down a tree?
Those trees we cut down every day?

Cry me a fucking river.

Why do so many people here have such a strong dislike for their own species so much?

Because some of their species would like to torch a human being to avenge a tree

 

[tangoprime]

Wow, I don't know how this hasn't come up yet, but that woman looks exactly like Sten from Dragon Age Origins.

Hopefully the Florida...ns? ians?.... will have the wisdom to just leave her for the Darkspawn.

HAHA I'm glad someone else was thinking that way. Actually my first reaction to seeing that picture was "HOLY SHIT! Someone get that ***** to the Grey Wardens quick!"

 

[Jackblank]

I never used to understand meth. Then I saw this:

http://www.sketchcomic.ca/12-03-01.php

It all makes sense now.

 

[manaman]

3500 years? Damn, that's impressive. I thought 400 years was streching it when it came to trees.
*totally missing the point*

Well it depends on how you define a tree. It also depends on what criteria you use to describe something being the same plant. There are several clonal plant colonies that are far older and some are pretty easy to describe as the same plant like creosote bush rings (there are in California, and some are between 10,000 and 12,000 years old). There is also Pando, which is, well you have access to wikipedia. Look that sucker up. Quite possibly the oldest, largest, and heaviest organism in the world with some arguing it's nearly one million years old.

Sure the trees you see above ground are not nearly that old, but the interconnected root system below the ground sure is.

Oregon's Armillaria is bigger.

LOL

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-largest-organism-is-fungus

No it isn't. By area yes, it would be if it turns out it's not a group of colonies, they still haven't verified that. Which is why you always see "thought to be largest by area" when you see descriptions of that fungus, not "largest known." Even then, Pando would outweigh that fungus. It's root structure is fully interconnected. Even larger than the fungus by area is a colony of sea grass in the Mediterranean sea, which stretches the definition of signal organism, but hey I did mention before it's all in how you define things.

three and a half thousand years that tree has stood there, for longer then anything man has created...

Say what?


I'm guessing you are unfamiliar with quite a large number of historical sites, and ancient civilizations. The Egyptians would like to have a word with you about their pyramids, for starters.

 

[omega 616]

I'm betting all the oxygen it gave over 3,500 years contributed a lot more than this zombie ever will.

I don't mean to be a pedantic little prick but trees use up more oxygen then they give out, algae give out 80% of the earths oxygen though.

Anyway, does it suck that an old ass tree got burned down? Sure. Should she have been in there? No. Does it matter? Fuck no. It's sad that it's such an old tree but when it's all said an done, it's a tree...

 

[Colour Scientist]

Not to mention the harm to tourism. Its the 5th oldest tree. Do you have any idea how valuable that is to any local tourism economy? She just destroyed something the state could use to bring tourism in.

I don't know about anyone else but when I go on holiday, I don't pick my destination based on where their trees rank on the 'Really, Really Old Trees List'. Sure, if I stumble across it I'll think 'huh, that tree is old' and go about my business.

I bet a majority of the people here never gave a shit about, or had never heard about, that tree until today and yet now you're crying for blood.

Poor girl, I hope she gets help.

 

[repeating integers]

You mean someone burned down a tree?
Those trees we cut down every day?

Cry me a fucking river.

Why do so many people here have such a strong dislike for their own species so much?

Because some of their species would like to torch a human being to avenge a tree

This particular human being isn't worth much more than your average tree, tbh.

 

[FamoFunk]

I can't get over how fucking awful that thing they call a Woman looks.

Don't do Meth kids.

 

[Robert Ewing]

Legalize all drugs they said. There will be no negative effects they said. Drugs are a natural part of humanities diet they said.

 

[albear]

The 'New' world's 5th oldest tree is rubbing its branches togeather going "he he he 4 more to go till im crowned KING OF THE TREES"

 

[godofallu]

If the tree was so important then why was there nobody around to notice?

Scary picture.

 

[kaizen2468]

She's frigging 26? Seriously? Man I knew Meth fucked you up but that's just incredible.

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

She's frigging 26? Seriously? Man I knew Meth fucked you up but that's just incredible.

To be fair that's a very bad pic, she does look like she's been on a week long drugs binge, but her actual mugshot is nowhere near as bad.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108028/Sara-Barnes-burned-3-500-year-old-tree-called-The-Senator-needed-drugs-doing.html

PS apologies for using the daily fail

 

[manaman]

3500 years? Damn, that's impressive. I thought 400 years was streching it when it came to trees.
*totally missing the point*

Well it depends on how you define a tree. It also depends on what criteria you use to describe something being the same plant. There are several clonal plant colonies that are far older and some are pretty easy to describe as the same plant like creosote bush rings (there are in California, and some are between 10,000 and 12,000 years old). There is also Pando, which is, well you have access to wikipedia. Look that sucker up. Quite possibly the oldest, largest, and heaviest organism in the world with some arguing it's nearly one million years old.

Sure the trees you see above ground are not nearly that old, but the interconnected root system below the ground sure is.

Oregon's Armillaria is bigger.

LOL

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-largest-organism-is-fungus

No it isn't. By area yes, it would be if it turns out it's not a group of colonies, they still haven't verified that. Which is why you always see "thought to be largest by area" when you see descriptions of that fungus, not "largest known." Even then, Pando would outweigh that fungus. It's root structure is fully interconnected. Even larger than the fungus by area is a colony of sea grass in the Mediterranean sea, which stretches the definition of signal organism, but hey I did mention before it's all in how you define things.

They've verified that it's all genetically identical, that's good enough for me.

And area would be what I'm talking about when I say it's bigger. Otherwise I'd say heavier.

You realize it's not one giant mushroom, but mycelium in the ground they are talking about right? That there are roads through that land that more likely then not divide up that organism. It may at some point have been a single organism, but thanks to people it's more likely several genetically identical organisms now. It's always been disputed that it is a single organism anyway and not several colonies, but you won't read that in your news article headline because it doesn't make for the best read.

Which brings me to your back peddling. Next time just say you didn't know what you where talking about because of bad information. Don't try to cover it up by pretending you had some different definition of "larger" than everyone else that you kept secret for some reason.