MGSV: Ground Zeroes to Run at 1080p on PS4, Only 720p on Xbox One

[JayRPG]

Spoiler: My opinion:

One of the dumbest things to come out of the last console generation is the notion that resolution actually matters. So long as the game is aesthetically pleasing, the amount of jaggies or the number of frames per second is, in my mind, absolutely pointless.

It's a very short-sighted point of view to have.

In your personal circumstances it may not mean anything, but to people in different scenarios it may mean a lot.

From my perspective, I have a Samsung 55F8000 T.V (55" 1080p LED) and my current living circumstances means that I have to sit VERY close to it and the difference between 720p and 1080p could not be any more noticable.

720p at my viewing distance looks like something they would have watched in the 30's or 40's, the "jaggies" strain my eyes because I'm constantly looking at a fuzzy mess and trying to focus it.

4k vs. 1080p is currently going through a similar for and against scenario at the moment, mainly because the average and/or recommended viewing distance for your T.V makes it seem like there is almost no difference, you cannot truly appreciate the resolution changes until you get up close and personal.

The best tech demo I have been a part of for 4k is having a picture of the same actual size newspaper side by side on a 4k TV and a 1080p TV of the same size... You cannot read a single word on the 1080p TV, you can, however, read everything on the 4k TV clear as day.

tl;dr Resolution differences can appear like nothing or absolutely everything depending on the size of your T.V and your viewing distance from said T.V.

 

[Genocidicles]

Normally i wouldn't care about any of this crap.

But it is hilarious that people are paying more for less with the xbone.

 

[Staskala]

Why are there always people with either 10 year old equipment or severe eyesight problems who claim they can't see the difference and thus don't care?
If you're for whatever reason fine with shelling out 500 bucks for equipment that gets beaten by even a mid-range laptop, that's fine, but don't pretend it's in any way normal. The difference is notable to absolutely everyone who isn't lying, and for a "next-gen" console to run at 720p is nothing short of ridiculous.

I primarily play 10+ year old games and don't even own a last gen console, but I'd never claim that these graphics were all I ever needed and that I'd still accept them from a modern title at full price. I honestly don't get you people.

 

[Aggieknight]

As a competitive gamer in my youth (Counterstrike, QuakeWorld), I can tell you for sure that there is a noticeable difference between 30fps and 60. I remember swapping video cards back in the day and going from ~28 fps to right at 60, my K dramatically improved. Resolution is more than aesthetics, it impacts your ability to pick out details and differentiate between someone you want to shoot and a tree. Sure, on a 32" TV (as opposed to a computer monitor), the difference may not be profound, but on my 65", it's pretty obvious.

What I find more interesting than the people who say they don't care is that the horsepower differences in the two consoles keep stacking up. Battlefield runs at a higher res on the PS4 and supports more players? Tombraider runs at a higher res? Titanfall only supporting 6v6 (yes, I hear Respawn claiming that it was a game balance decision, I just don't believe it). Now this?

Hopefully for M$, the delta in performance is more about developers needing to become attuned to the new platform and the PS4 is easier to develop on. Unfortunately, I think we are seeing a clear difference in the raw capabilities of the two platforms, which will only widen over time. That doesn't bode well for Microsoft and their more expensive console.

EDIT - My point about 32" vs 65" was not a dig at anyone. It was only pointing out that the larger the TV, the more noticeable that resolution differences are.

 

[MrBaskerville]

Why are there always people with either 10 year old equipment or severe eyesight problems who claim they can't see the difference and thus don't care?
If you're for whatever reason fine with shilling out 500 bucks for equipment that gets beaten by even a mid-range laptop, that's fine, but don't pretend it's in any way normal. The difference is notable to absolutely everyone who isn't lying, and for a "next-gen" console to run at 720p is nothing short of ridiculous.

I primarily play 10+ year old games and don't even own a last gen console, but I'd never claim that these graphics were all I ever needed and that I'd still accept them from a modern title at full price. I honestly don't get you people.

I got a 32' Samsung tv and i couldn't tell you which games in my collection are 60 fps and which are 30. Only thing i notice is that most non japanese ps3 games run like crap, not because they are 30 fps, but because the framerate is unstable. I don't have any resolution problems, and considering that i rarely play big expensive state of the art games, i can't see why i should care. Must ps2 games are 30 fps (I assume) and they seem to run smoothly, so yeah can't see hy i should care. I'm more concerned with visual style and gameplay.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Jesus I remember like it was yesterday when we had our PS1's and 2's and back then not one fuck was given about graphics and res, now it's totally different and completely annoying and stale to see and hear the same trough over and over as if it suddenly matters for every single person liking or not on this planet.

Yeah right, back then nobody gave a shit about graphics. That's why every new generation back then didn't get a huge graphical upgrade. And why many 2D platformers didn't get ruined by going 3D, because that was the new hotness.

It also why we explicitly didn't get that Metal Gear Solid 2 reveal trailer screaming at us 'Look how fucking sick this looks with the new PS2 graphics!!!'

Yeah, none of that shit happened.

 

[scotth266]

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It's like clockwork. See, this is why the PS2 generation will always be the best for me: back then we didn't have this shit. Some consoles were better tech-wise than others, but nobody cared - all they cared about was the number of good games available for the box, and while the ugly head of graphics whoring was starting to show up, stuff like the Gamecube could be appreciated for what it had.

Now if you have the gall to suggest that graphics aren't everything, people jump your shit. Truly, a step forward.

 

[Makabriel]

Normally i wouldn't care about any of this crap.

But it is hilarious that people are paying more for less with the xbone.

100$ for a console that can do more than just play games.

 

[Staskala]

I got a 32' Samsung tv and i couldn't tell you which games in my collection are 60 fps and which are 30. Only thing i notice is that most non japanese ps3 games run like crap, not because they are 30 fps, but because the framerate is unstable. I don't have any resolution problems, and considering that i rarely play big expensive state of the art games, i can't see why i should care. Must ps2 games are 30 fps (I assume) and they seem to run smoothly, so yeah can't see hy i should care. I'm more concerned with visual style and gameplay.

I was mostly talking about resolution, FPS really depends on the type of game you're playing. Since most modern games are much slower paced compared to Quake or UT or whatever, I can see why it doesn't matter to some people. With action games and FPS it's really noticeable, not so much for platformers, RPGs etc.
By the way, that's an interesting sidenote to the people claiming that back in the day no one cared about this shit, during the height of competitive PC FPS gaming things were all about the FPS. 60 FPS CRT? Get the fuck outta here, scrub.

 

[Evonisia]

I'm gonna jump on the "I don't care" bandwagon, but I do find it funny how people seem to react surprised that an MGS game runs smoother on a PlayStation console.

 

[Casual Shinji]

It's like clockwork. See, this is why the PS2 generation will always be the best for me: back then we didn't have this shit. Some consoles were better tech-wise than others, but nobody cared - all they cared about was the number of good games available for the box, and while the ugly head of graphics whoring was starting to show up, stuff like the Gamecube could be appreciated for what it had.

Now if you have the gall to suggest that graphics aren't everything, people jump your shit. Truly, a step forward.

Nobody's suggesting graphics are everything. But when you're paying a hundred bucks more for less, that's something. Enough to ***** about, I would think.

And speaking of the Gamecube, wasn't it Wind Waker that made everyone go fucking apeshit over it not sporting the latest realistic graphics? And REmake getting super hyped because the prerendered backgrounds with new tech looked amazing? Or Metal Gear Solid getting remade so it also could have shiny new graphics?

Please don't pretend like "graphics whoring" wasn't just as present back then, because it was. Bitching about it online simply wasn't.

The reason a lot of focus is placed on fps and resolution now is because that's the only area that still has a lot more room to increase in quality. Since graphics have more or less reached the ceiling.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Even though i prefer a great game at low res than a piece of crap at 1080 - there is still no excuse why a modern console cant play at that res as standard. But, i dont understand why the XB1 is 720, the 360 was 1080. Also why is it only the PS4 1080 for this game? Why not the PS3 version? Now i find it hard to believe the XB1 isnt capable of 1080 so is it a case of they made it to complicated to do it?

Or could it be we will get a MGS5 - Definitive Edition released on the XB1 near christmas? ;-)

 

[scotth266]

Nobody's suggesting graphics are everything. But when you're paying a hundred bucks more for less, that's something. Enough to ***** about, I would think.

People sure act like graphics are everything - you can see it in this thread. Even your own point here implies that the graphics hardware is literally all there is to the two consoles. We know that isn't true - after all, the Xbox One comes with a Kinect, which last I checked accounts for the 100 dollars difference between the consoles.

And speaking of the Gamecube, wasn't it Wind Waker that made everyone go fucking apeshit over it not sporting the latest realistic graphics?

Now you show that you don't even know what aesthetics are, because that was the entire reason people were pissed about Wind Waker. The issue wasn't "NOT ENOUGH GRAPHICS," it was "I DON'T LIKE THE ART STYLE," which is an entirely different argument.

And REmake getting super hyped because the prerendered backgrounds with new tech looked amazing?

Or Metal Gear Solid getting remade so it also could have shiny new graphics?

Both of these are referencing remakes, where the whole point is to take a classic and make it shinier. Of course people talked about how shiny they were. That doesn't mean that they were graphics whoring - it's an entirely different world from how people flip their shit today over resolution differences.

 

[masticina]

Resolution matters BUT and it is a big BUT both the PS4 and Xbox One are CONSOLES. Meaning both probably are hooked up on TELEVISIONS. This is important.

Unlike a pc where you got a screen right before your face. Or a gaming laptop with again a screen within 3 feet. A Television tends to be FURTHER away.

Many people have to small a television for the room/situation. I am not joking when buying my new television I had to dig out the calculations to make sure that I would get 1080p right to where I would be sitting. And I am happy I did, sure the television is slightly bigger then first planned but if I play blu-rays on it, or 1080p games, I actually can SEE the 1080p from it.

Many people though have a to small television and only can effectively see aruond 720p or worse. In the old television situation the seating was more in the 480p area. http://www.rtings.com/info/television-size-to-distance-relationship
There Trust me if you ever complained about 720p being more then enough actually sit on the right distance from your television for viewing. And you'll actually notice the 1080p upgrade.

 

[tehroc]

Jesus I remember like it was yesterday when we had our PS1's and 2's and back then not one fuck was given about graphics and res, now it's totally different and completely annoying and stale to see and hear the same trough over and over as if it suddenly matters for every single person liking or not on this planet.

Yeah right, back then nobody gave a shit about graphics. That's why every new generation back then didn't get a huge graphical upgrade. And why many 2D platformers didn't get ruined by going 3D, because that was the new hotness.

It also why we explicitly didn't get that Metal Gear Solid 2 reveal trailer screaming at us 'Look how fucking sick this looks with the new PS2 graphics!!!'

Yeah, none of that shit happened.

Shit we can go even further back then PS days. Remember the 90s campaign ad about "Genesis does what Nintendon't". Graphics whoring goes all the way back to the infancy of video gaming. I was somewhat young in the early 80s and I don't quite remember but I'm sure when the 2600 launched they compared it to game systems like Pong or Vectrex etc, lauding it's advanced graphics and colors.

 

[Rad Party God]

Yup, this is just in; the Xbone is a shitty console.

Aside from that, meh, at least I expect this isn't a deterrent on future games being inferior products* crippled by it's hardware, just like last-gen.

[small]For clarification, I talk about games like Battlefield with a laughable amount of simultaneous people on multiplayer, compared to it's PC counterpart.[/small]

 

[In Search of Username]

This gen's shaping up to be much like the last tech-wise. Sony pulling ahead, Nintendo falling behind, Microsoft sitting somewhere in the middle. Hopefully the fact that Sony's console is not only better but cheaper this time around will convince people not to buy the Xbone in huge numbers.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

next gen people... next gen


this is why the PS2 was the last console worth a damn for me

Two apples, both the same price.

One is a nice, shiny red apple.

The other isn't quite as shiny, and is a little wrinkly.

Pretty obvious choice, no?

Also the table you eat the nice one on costs a hundred bucks less to sit at.

And just to take this (kind of shitty) metaphor to it's logical conclusion, there's also an amazing super fruit you can buy that costs less and tastes better, but you gotta do some legwork first.

i dont speak hippie, please use meat in your metaphors from now on

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Graphics do matter. Higher res and framerate will be more "aesthetically pleasing".

Hi res means less noticeable jaggies and "slimmering" - AA can only do so much.

Hi framerate means better perception of motion.

When you buy a game why would you not want to buy the most "aesthetically pleasing" one?

I prefer the most functional game over the most aesthetically pleasing. But since I'm a pc gamer, I can tweak to my heart's content, and I rarely give a damn about screen resolutions.

...

You tweak ... but don't care about screen resolution ... OK ...

Given the choice between 2 equally "functional" versions of a game ... Why would anyone not choose the better looking one?

Factors like which console you're buying it on? That could be a reason.

As for my tweaking with relation to resolution. I really don't care about how big something appears on my monitor. If I play borderlands and drop my Resolution to near minimum, the massive boost in fps I get I can apply to the other graphics options to make the game prettier. How crisp my lines are doesn't matter so long as I can find the balance between crisp image and functional framerate.