Michael Pachter Predicts PS4 to "Win" Next-Gen Console War

[RicoADF]

I know what you mean. I'd hate to see MS & Sony rewarded for turning consoles into gamer milkers. I kind of envy the Nintendo fans as they have the most consumer friendly console. But its still going to take more than Bayonetta2 to get me to buy one.

I don't see how Nintendo is more consumer friendly than Sony, I can get PS4 games from anywhere but if I get a Wii U I can only play games released in my region because Nintendo would rather fuck their consumers over with prices than offer them choice. Xbox is bad for this as well, hence why PS4 was my first choice (along with alot of other reasons).

 

[DarklordKyo]

I know what you mean. I'd hate to see MS & Sony rewarded for turning consoles into gamer milkers. I kind of envy the Nintendo fans as they have the most consumer friendly console. But its still going to take more than Bayonetta2 to get me to buy one.

I don't see how Nintendo is more consumer friendly than Sony, I can get PS4 games from anywhere but if I get a Wii U I can only play games released in my region because Nintendo would rather fuck their consumers over with prices than offer them choice. Xbox is bad for this as well, hence why PS4 was my first choice (along with alot of other reasons).

Sony were apparently going to use something like Microsoft's DRM as well, then they said they weren't in an extremely smart marketing ploy considering the time. As much as I hate region lock, it's nowhere near as bad as the Xbone's previous DRM scheme (or most types of DRM in general).

 

[RicoADF]

Sony were apparently going to use something like Microsoft's DRM as well, then they said they weren't in an extremely smart marketing ploy considering the time. As much as I hate region lock, it's nowhere near as bad as the Xbone's previous DRM scheme (or most types of DRM in general).

They probably considered it, especially since the publishers no doubt requested it, but when it came down to it they chose not to. Considering Microsoft had already confirmed they were having always online DRM Sony could have easily had it too and there would have been little risk to them, they took a bet by saying no to always online and won because of it (finally a company that uses some sense). Alot of things are 'considered' when a system is designed, it doesn't necessarily mean that they put it past the ideas phase.

 

[mysecondlife]

It boggles me someone would actually pay him (a third party) to estimate sales numbers of videogame related products. For what purpose other than to rile up bunch of idiotic fanboys?

Thank you captain obvious. Sir.

So.. captain outranks commander?

 

[smithy_2045]

Sony were apparently going to use something like Microsoft's DRM as well, then they said they weren't in an extremely smart marketing ploy considering the time. As much as I hate region lock, it's nowhere near as bad as the Xbone's previous DRM scheme (or most types of DRM in general).

They probably considered it, especially since the publishers no doubt requested it, but when it came down to it they chose not to. Considering Microsoft had already confirmed they were having always online DRM Sony could have easily had it too and there would have been little risk to them, they took a bet by saying no to always online and won because of it (finally a company that uses some sense). Alot of things are 'considered' when a system is designed, it doesn't necessarily mean that they put it past the ideas phase.

It's pretty obvious that Sony waited to see the public reaction to Microsoft's DRM, and after seeing the overwhelmingly negative response went with their current option. If Microsoft had a better PR team that didn't completely screw up their pre-launch marketing (how can you be so dumb as to focus your announcements on all the limitations of your system rather than the benefits), I have no doubt Sony would've gone with a similar DRM strategy to Microsoft's.

 

[jackpipsam]

In what, sales of overall units or overall profit?

 

[Fox12]

*Ps4 just had the most successful launch in console history*

"Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter expects the PS4 to outsell the Xbox One"

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People get paid for this? Why did I even pay for college?

 

[Strazdas]

Thank you captain hindsight, for pointing out the obviuos after it happened.

Who on earth is this Pachter guy? His name is thrown around an awful lot these days.

He is financial analyst that likes to express opinions about games (not related to his actual, well paid work). Game journalists like to share his opinions with the rest. statistically hes around 50% correct.

yay, let's make assumptions about the future of barely released consoles even though none of them has any significant titles worthy of our attention.

Yes they have. The best title of the year is actually called "loading". All you need to finish it is time and EVERYONE played it.

He's a dumbass who's always wrong and nobody likes. His bile turns out to be wrong more often then not, and yet people continuously report on what he says like it matters for some reason

Hes around 50% right and there are plenty of people that like him enough to pay him loads of money.

Patcher is never right. This is like an unwritten rule of the universe.

you are wrong. patcher is 50% of times right.

Sony were apparently going to use something like Microsoft's DRM as well, then they said they weren't in an extremely smart marketing ploy considering the time. As much as I hate region lock, it's nowhere near as bad as the Xbone's previous DRM scheme (or most types of DRM in general).

Region locking is one of the worst types of DRM.

It boggles me someone would actually pay him (a third party) to estimate sales numbers of videogame related products. For what purpose other than to rile up bunch of idiotic fanboys?

They dont. Noone pays im anything for his opinion of videgames. He trades in securities, gets paid for it. Has nothing to do with games. He just likes to talk about games as a hobby.

People get paid for this? Why did I even pay for college?

He doesnt get paid for this.

 

[Mersadeon]

"Collective moaning of "no shit, Sherlock" were ignored by Pachter."

Seriously, that's been clear from the start. Gigantic internet rage over policies, weird one-eighties on those policies, a provably worse hardware that will eventually lag behind in the graphics race and a huge focus on non-gaming content. And now the PS4 is already outselling the XBone.
Come on, this is is like saying "BANKS ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY" - yeah, we know, even the blind people have seen the signs.

And no, I'm not ragging on Pachter, not saying he is a bad guy. He talks about videogames in his freetime. I'm just saying that his statement is incredibly obvious and that this isn't exactly news.

 

[mattttherman3]

Pachter has been saying this on his show for months... This is not new news.

 

[Something Amyss]

This just in "Patcher says water will remain wet well into the new year"

If Pachter said that, I would be testing water all year round just to make sure. The fail in Pachter is just that powerful.

 

[Edl01]

Sega have released the DreamCast, which they predict that using its innovative new features will take the industry by storm.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I know what you mean. I'd hate to see MS & Sony rewarded for turning consoles into gamer milkers. I kind of envy the Nintendo fans as they have the most consumer friendly console. But its still going to take more than Bayonetta2 to get me to buy one.

I don't see how Nintendo is more consumer friendly than Sony, I can get PS4 games from anywhere but if I get a Wii U I can only play games released in my region because Nintendo would rather fuck their consumers over with prices than offer them choice. Xbox is bad for this as well, hence why PS4 was my first choice (along with alot of other reasons).

That's a good reason but I was thinking that Nintendo is the only one not phasing out local multiplayer for online multiplayer than charging a monthly fee for it. Cheaper console too (even before you consider online fees) and if history is any judge, the most sturdy too.

 

[RicoADF]

That's a good reason but I was thinking that Nintendo is the only one not phasing out local multiplayer for online multiplayer than charging a monthly fee for it. Cheaper console too (even before you consider online fees) and if history is any judge, the most sturdy too.

I agree local multiplayer is important, it's one of the main reasons I get consoles (as most online MP games I get on PC), that said the PS3 has quite a few local MP games in my collection, especially racing and FPS's, the PS4 though is too soon to tell however none of the games out so far have it so it's not looking good, we shal see though. Part of the issue is it depends on the 3rd party publishers more than anything, unlike Nintendo's systems which are mostly about Nintendo games, and thus they make a point of having them local MP focused.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Pachter has been saying this on his show for months... This is not new news.

Only reason it's newsworthy is because of his bad track record, making it good clickbait.

 

[Vyress]

Thank you captain hindsight, for pointing out the obviuos after it happened.


He is financial analyst that likes to express opinions about games (not related to his actual, well paid work). Game journalists like to share his opinions with the rest. statistically hes around 50% correct.

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Hes around 50% right and there are plenty of people that like him enough to pay him loads of money.

An analyst with a 50% quota is worth exactly 1 penny, cause you might as well flip a coin really, statistically speaking.

 

[GonzoGamer]

That's a good reason but I was thinking that Nintendo is the only one not phasing out local multiplayer for online multiplayer than charging a monthly fee for it. Cheaper console too (even before you consider online fees) and if history is any judge, the most sturdy too.

I agree local multiplayer is important, it's one of the main reasons I get consoles (as most online MP games I get on PC), that said the PS3 has quite a few local MP games in my collection, especially racing and FPS's, the PS4 though is too soon to tell however none of the games out so far have it so it's not looking good, we shal see though. Part of the issue is it depends on the 3rd party publishers more than anything, unlike Nintendo's systems which are mostly about Nintendo games, and thus they make a point of having them local MP focused.

Thats the biggest problem I have with Nintendo right there. I think I would've preferred the Gamecube over the ps2 back in those days if they had all the Burnout games, or the GTAs, or Katamaris. Their tunnel vision seems to have gotten worse too.
The trend with sony (and MS) is that every generation we get fewer local multiplayer games and now that they charge for online play, I get the feeling they're going to see even fewer. But yes, it is too soon to tell right now. Sure, a lot of it is up to the third parties but sony & ms have a lot of influence with them. It really is the only reason to own a console anymore (for me at least), it would be a shame to see it go away.
I think the ps4 is getting Diablo 3 and I'm having a lot of fun with that right now just in local multiplayer on the ps3.

 

[Commander Obvious]

It boggles me someone would actually pay him (a third party) to estimate sales numbers of videogame related products. For what purpose other than to rile up bunch of idiotic fanboys?

Thank you captain obvious. Sir.

So.. captain outranks commander?

Obviously.

 

[Strazdas]

Come on, this is is like saying "BANKS ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY" - yeah, we know, even the blind people have seen the signs.

I would argue against this statement. Financial institution that was reliable for over 300 years is more trustworthy than most companies.

An analyst with a 50% quota is worth exactly 1 penny, cause you might as well flip a coin really, statistically speaking.

Yes, RLY.
The mistake most people make, you included, is thinking he is game analyst. he is not. He is financial analyst, dealing in securities and he is so good at his job his pay has 5 numbers. What his quota are in those we do not know, because his opinions in that is SOLD to investors, not given out to news agencies. Considering that he hasnt lost his job in so many years, he must be pretty good at it to make profit for the company.
Now when it comes to games, it is his hobby, his pastime, just like you or me playing games after work. No wonder his predictions are as good as yours or mine.

 

[Racecarlock]

I predict the sun will rise tomorrow. Now where's my front page story with paragraphs and paragraphs dedicated to my detailed analysis of the sun probably rising tomorrow?

Why are more and more stories in the news room consisting of "Guy said a thing, here's my analysis"? Shouldn't we care about what the developers are actually doing and what games they're making?

Why care what some dude says about sales figures?