Microsoft Doesn't Want Sony's Sloppy Seconds

[Canadamus Prime]

They do realize that they are cutting themselves off from a lot of potential sales by maintaining this policy, right?

 

[Baldr]

A representative from a publisher, who wishes to remain anonymous, lest he/she face Microsoft's biblical wrath, disagreed. Talking to Eurogamer, they said, "Microsoft is suggesting that anything but parity will result in them not carrying a title. They may think this is competitive, but it's not. They are killing any creative exposure of titles to make up for their own platform's shortcomings."

I like that part, it has weight.

Ha, an MS employee calls bollox on MS. I'm pretty sure he/she/it/they/the collective/the anonymous isn't the only one who feels this way about their workplace.

Publisher does not equal Microsoft Employee, it could be any 3rd party publisher representative, more likely a big one(Ubisoft, EA, or Activision).

Ah, probably true. I think I was too caught up in the humor of the situation I mentioned to consider that. Thanks for ruining my humorous ignorance (joking).

On a more serious note, and to lightly debate, I doubt they're from a big publisher if they want to remain anonymous. Two of the publishers you mentioned are EA and Activision. They pay their reps to belittle others on a regular basis so if the person was from either of those I doubt they would feel the need to remain hidden.

Yeah, it ok to belittle the competition, but in most cases Microsoft is not the competition, it the publishing partner of the companies, and you don't want to belittle your business partner, it not good for business.

 

[Redout9122]

Actually I like this policy and hope that Sony and Nintendo take it too. It is kinda bogus that some games get special content and features on some consoles and other don't and that practice has to stop. No matter what your console, you should have have the same sort of content for a third party game.

Pah.

That's what laptop manufacturers said about proprietary charger heads too I bet.

It's not 'being fair to the players', it's dicking around. Stop glorifying it.

 

[OldGus]

Let me put it simply, MS. More than half of your customers do not have a PS3 or Wii. Many of them have at least one friend who does. Said friend will expose them to (at the time) exclusive titles that they will like. Releasing afterwards, especially with Xbox exclusive content just to make other console owners feel inadequate with their copies... not a bad thing.

 

[Yopaz]

So that means Ratchet and Clank will never come to 360?

Fine with me Microsoft. I'll keep my PS3 nice and safe just so I can play the best 3rd person, funny, over the top, super fun, platformers ever made.
Yes that may seem like fanboyism but if you two won't play nice I'll just have to separate my consoles into opposite rooms! I think next firmware update for the Xbox will eject dirt out of the disc drive at the player if they mention Playstation games in the same room.

Actually I wouldn't say that's fanboyism. The Xbox is clearly lacking platformers unless you count Xbox Live Arcade.

 

[drosalion]

Wont change anything, like what happened with Mortal Kombat or any other big franchise that gamers will actually want - Microsoft wont care caus it will make them more money than excluding it.

 

[Nurb]

It pretty much guarantees that no system will get an early release though. Any company that misses out on one console's market is going to take a big hit, so this will ensure they don't play favorites

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Microsoft.

You're doing it wrong.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Jeez, why is everyone being such pricks?
Gamestop taking premiums out of new games. Sony releasing another overpriced and (sure to be) undersupported machine to the suckers. Every publisher is looking for a way to screw over consumers who buy used. Now MS is denying their own consumers games like they were denying them a working console for the first few years the 360 existed.

These idiots make me wonder why I even bother playing games anymore.

The recent events that are screwing us over more often are because of one thing every business strives for: Money and it's sadly what drives them from their second purpose: Design of a product that gives the customer value for their money.

I am totally against getting screwed out of my wallet because i like to save money and not blow tons of cash for a product that can easily be fair priced and also see the true value of a product for it's worth and effort but these days the game industry has just gotten lazy and is obviously running out of fresh innovative ideas so they resort to simple measures such as:

1)Copy+paste a game adding little difference to save on the developement process and in turn save money.

2) Bring back an old idea from the past and slightly refine the idea and make it out to be revolutionary.

3) Put together game merchandise that is cost effective and jack up the price of the merchandise.

4) Limit the ownership of some games or cut them short in an attempt to force you to want more.

5) Deliberately hack certain segments of games to pieces to sell them as supposed "DLC" even under claims that the idea came after the game was released.

6) Create supposed "free to play" games but hack out most of the "free" and instead charge the customer in order to get the full enjoyment of the game.

7) Last but not least the idea to charge more money from you even though the game is an obvious wreck.

Those points listed above (and if iv'e missed out any please do add more to the table) are what i tend to see more these days when it comes to games and i feel everyday that some of my favorite companies just don't care anymore and just want to take the easy route and not take it slow when making a game instead of resorting to shoving a new game on the shelves every year.

I want to care and take pride in any game company i purchase from but i can't exactly do that when i feel let down knowing at the end of the day the company doesn't care what it makes as long as it get's your money.

 

[Phisi]

I wonder if this would count as anti-competition practices... hmmmm
That said, I'm a socialist and own a PS3 (as well as a PC)and would prefer it if games on all platforms had the same features.

And what was that about he PS3 being overpriced? It is more powerful then the XBOX 360 and can also play Blu-rays and is cheaper then all (at time of purchase for me) Blu-ray players. But anyways I game mostly on my laptop

 

[Roserari]

Do I really need to say anything other than FINAL FANTASY or METAL GEAR SOLID? Seriously ... Idiots.

 

[deathtopenguins]

Huh, there's probably a better policy for dealing with cross console games. But this seems ok(ish). It puts the burden on the developers to decide before making the game, whether or not to release on both consoles. Rather them deciding halfway, staggering the release, and making a potentially buggy or trimmed down version for the Xbox. It's one of the reasons that staggered console ports for PC are often pathetic. Ubisoft I'm looking at you >:|

The big problem is obviously that some games never make it and the consumer with only one console gets irritated and the console maker + game developer gets less money. I guess they're hoping to change the way developers release games for the better, by enforcing a strict policy.

Still annoying though.

 

[Josh123914]

How can MS get any games from Sony when the PS3 has no games?

In all seriousness though I find this simply stupid, I HATE how games being made have more content for some consoles than others (IE PS3s ME2... in fact it mostly happens with PS3 *cough*LA Noire *cough*) and I cannot stand this war for the better system (system side all PS3 has over Xbox is the blue ray. Xbox has the better motion activity, kinect. Can we stop this now?) imo xbox is more fun simply due to exclusives and the controller, but that doesn't mean I don't play the PS3 when I have the option to. They need to cool it with this thing and release games for xbox and stop trying to out due Sony when they both are equally beating Nintendo and its 49 out of 50 games being gimmicky and casual.

probably the reason why the PS3 gets more on-disc stuff is because of Blu-ray, ME2 was on 2 discs for the 360 but only 1 for PS3 so there's that done with and also the whole 'extra content' PS3 gamers got for Mass Effect 2 was compensation for getting the game a year later than everyone else and missing out on the original mass Effect (hell, if I bought it at retail today for the 360 and bought All additional bonus DLC the PS3 gamers got I'd still have saved money) /rant.

 

[Treblaine]

Doesn't bother me, there isn't a single Sony exclusive I'm interested in playing.

Really? Not a single one?

Not even Uncharted? Infamous? Resistance or Killzone? God of War? 3D Dot Game heroes?

You do like games... right? I hope you aren't just saying you aren't interested in the sense of "Interested, but not interested enough to invest in another system" kind of interested.

Killzone, no, its another bland boring shooter title.

I played the First God of War, the others look like basically the exact same game, button mash, timed boss events.

There are other games that play exactly like Infamous, so its like I've already played it.

Resistance, another shooter.

Uncharted maybe, however honestly I never bothered to look that much into it and what it has to offer, since I don't own a PS3.

I dunno what 3D Dot Game Heros is, but if its some "3D" title, I'll pass...since I can't see in 3D (1 working eyeball).

Mostly yeah, not interested enough to invest in another system kinda interested. The ONLY exclusive thats ever even sorta really interested me was MGS4, and I've gone this long without it, I'll survive somehow.

no it's not that kinds of 3D, it's the GOOD type of 3D as in how Mario 64 was a 3D game while Super Mario Bros 3 was a 2D game. It's a 3D world though with no lenticular bullshit. It's actually a charming homage classic classic Zelda games (the top-down 2D type). Check it out, if that sort of thing interests you... just don't dismiss it by the name.

If you liked Gears of War I really recommend Uncharted, it does the same kind of thing but in a much more dynamic way with I think much better pacing, it's got such great set pieces and likeable characters. But you do have somewhat of a self made circular-exclusion:
-you don't own a PS3 so why would you bother looking into whether Uncharted (or other games) were good.
-if you don't know of any good games for PS3 (because you haven't looked) then why even consider getting a PS3.?
-No PS3, so no games interest.
-no games interest, so no PS3.

There really isn't any game like Infamous out there on the market, it's quite superficial the comparison with Prototype that just happened to be released in the same time. They are very different kinds of games. But I can't tell you this, you have to actually look into this yourself because you will never see what you don't want to look at.

But I'm no PS3 evangelist, if I'm going to encourage you to get any system it'll be a decent gaming PC. It's just the PS3 is the best of the bunch when it comes to consoles.

 

[Treblaine]

Yeah, the community took the words right out of my mouth. Childish. They are robbing their consumers of games (and through that robbing themselves of money) in exchange for benefits that are shaky at best and nonexistant at worst.

I'd even say getting games later is good, since when a game is released later on another console it tends to get all sort of nifty extras.

Doesn't bother me, there isn't a single Sony exclusive I'm interested in playing.

Really? Not a single one?

Not even Uncharted? Infamous? Resistance or Killzone? God of War? 3D Dot Game heroes?

You do like games... right? I hope you aren't just saying you aren't interested in the sense of "Interested, but not interested enough to invest in another system" kind of interested.

While it does bother me that MS is doing that, it's because I might lose out on some exclusive that comes down the line. I too have no interest on any current Sony exclusive, not even Male Tomb Raider, Electric Parkour Attack, Gray Future Shooter XX or Gray Future Shooter XXI.

3D Dot Game Heroes looks hilarious and I'm happy enough that it exists.

To be perfectly honest I did kind of get interested on Motorstorm for a while, but FUEL cured that from me.

So you're not interested in "Gray Future Shooter XX", are you dissing 'Killzone' or 'Gears of War' with that characterisation? Is "Gray Future Shooter XXI" supposed to be Halo Reach?

How do you dismiss the Resistance games?

I don't know why you would dismiss "Electric Parkour Attack" you describe it in a pretty fun way. And it is a fun game.

Male tomb Raider? You clearly haven't played Uncharted, it plays a lot more like Gears of War only with a lot more verticality and more dynamic close combat. Just LOOK at the games, they are amazing.

Hmm, happy that a game exists but don't want to actually play it. What an odd stance for a "gamer" to take, it's much less a "gamer" and more an admirer.

PS: Fuel is a fraction of what Motorstorm is. This isn't about "curing" you interest in games, this is about going after what you WANT and not letting platform loyalty get in the way. I was always a Playstation man but is still got a 360 to play Halo 3-ODST-Reach and Gears 2.

 

[farq1414]

I have come to a conclusion that Sony is bad with its customers, Microsoft are dicks to there's and Nintendo are Customer's Bitches. Well that my opinion. Its a shame that Xbox gamers don't get a chance to play Sony's games.

I do! I own both machines lol.

If I were microsoft I'd chuck money at developers to make the titles better when they hit 360, this announcement sounds like their going down the nintendo route and self distructing.

God help me I like my ps3 but I dread a sony dominated marketplace.

so you hated the last gen when the PS2 owned the marketplace

 

[ph0b0s123]

So now we know why the 360 version of Witcher 2 has been delayed / isn't going to happen....

"must have at least feature and content parity"

I bet it is only vs other consoles as PC versions of multiformat games generally have more features, higher res, 3d ect. Also things like 64 player multiplayer maps vs 24 for BF3, I would have thought would have fallen in this category....