Microsoft Drops Xbox One DRM Restrictions - UPDATED
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So, two ideas run through my mind:
1) They actually planed this in advance, to pull off some kind of "Coca-Cola Classic" strategy.
2) They actually were going to go with what they were originally planning, but seeing Sony's strategy (of pissing on them) and saw that they were pissing off far to many possible customers (like the US Navy) and decided to actually smarten up.
Im leaning towards 2, obviously...
1) They actually planed this in advance, to pull off some kind of "Coca-Cola Classic" strategy.
2) They actually were going to go with what they were originally planning, but seeing Sony's strategy (of pissing on them) and saw that they were pissing off far to many possible customers (like the US Navy) and decided to actually smarten up.
Im leaning towards 2, obviously...
That scream you heard was the credibility of every last person that defended Microsoft this whole time disappearing.
Anyone else imagine Don what's his name typing all that with gritted teeth and a gun to his head?
Now if they only dropped the Kinect requirement.
Now if they only dropped the Kinect requirement.
Yeah, and when they were praising the Cloud, and declaring that online is the future and offline is the past, they were secretly knowing that they will turn all that shit off anyways and sell a type of outdated console that they are just bashing...WanderingFool said:
Still no reason for me to buy an Xbox, but at least this leaves it open for them to create a reason later on for me to buy one. If they do some good things with the kinect....well, I'll keep an open mind...and they may sell one to me someday.
This is, over all, a win for gamers though. I have to say as a very very long term gamer (all the way back to the first games) who has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years on games, consoles etc.....I am tired of being treated like a criminal and having to deal with DRM etc just so people who are not going to spend money on games anyway...have a slightly harder time getting them for free.
I do think switching to digital over all is a good idea, reducing the cost to manufacture and ship games, and giving that savings to consumers (us). Lower the price of games while making them more accessable and less people will pirate it (not to mention if you buy a digital copy it's not going to be sold to gamestop for $5...then resold to someone for $30 preventing a full sale for the original producers).
I am....becoming spoiled by steam etc. I almost don't want to bother with physical copies of games anymore, and both systems (the ps4 and Xbox one) can handle using a mostly if not total digital game catalog for players. It should be an option....and a cheaper option at that....but there is no reason not to make digital copies available...and cheaper...for everyone at this point.
This is, over all, a win for gamers though. I have to say as a very very long term gamer (all the way back to the first games) who has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years on games, consoles etc.....I am tired of being treated like a criminal and having to deal with DRM etc just so people who are not going to spend money on games anyway...have a slightly harder time getting them for free.
I do think switching to digital over all is a good idea, reducing the cost to manufacture and ship games, and giving that savings to consumers (us). Lower the price of games while making them more accessable and less people will pirate it (not to mention if you buy a digital copy it's not going to be sold to gamestop for $5...then resold to someone for $30 preventing a full sale for the original producers).
I am....becoming spoiled by steam etc. I almost don't want to bother with physical copies of games anymore, and both systems (the ps4 and Xbox one) can handle using a mostly if not total digital game catalog for players. It should be an option....and a cheaper option at that....but there is no reason not to make digital copies available...and cheaper...for everyone at this point.
Unless they fired the people who thought it was a good idea in the first place, I don't see this convincing me they have my best interests at heart, and aren't just caving to social pressure.
Of course not. Both companies are after the money, but Sony made good business decisions regarding the current situation. I said in another post, Sony didn't do anything mind-blowing. They didn't do anything, but compared to what MS did, it came out to gold. What I'm saying is that MS listened to Xbones not selling. If PS4 had DRM like Xbone, then I doubt they would change anything.. Unless people didn't buy either console, but I doubt that would happen.thethird0611 said:
Alright everyone! Now just pile on the hate for the new Kinect-mandatory aspect so they'll get rid of that and this console just might be buyable!
Seriously, if they REALLY want to push the Kinect onto us, there's at least a less heavy-handed way to do it: include it with the new console, but make it optional. Developers will still make games for it seeing as how they know everyone's got one, but you get NONE of the drawbacks of people being forced to install an audio/video camera in their livingroom that constantly watches them and can read their heart rate...seriously, I still don't understand why the hell a game console accessory would need to do that...
Seriously, if they REALLY want to push the Kinect onto us, there's at least a less heavy-handed way to do it: include it with the new console, but make it optional. Developers will still make games for it seeing as how they know everyone's got one, but you get NONE of the drawbacks of people being forced to install an audio/video camera in their livingroom that constantly watches them and can read their heart rate...seriously, I still don't understand why the hell a game console accessory would need to do that...
See? This goes to show what all this "mindless hatred" can bring about if we all voice our concerns and speak with our wallets. But Microsoft still has a ways to go. They need to get rid of the mandatory Kinect. That's still a major problem. Especially if they want to make sales to the military. They're also going to want to drop the price to compete with PS4 especially since they are supposedly underpowered compared to it.
Still not getting it though. Damage is already done and I can't trust them. Maybe a few years into its cycle if they address the Kinect issue. But I'll be way into PC gaming and PS4 goodness by then to probably even care.
Still not getting it though. Damage is already done and I can't trust them. Maybe a few years into its cycle if they address the Kinect issue. But I'll be way into PC gaming and PS4 goodness by then to probably even care.
I still probably won't get one. Two reason. One:
And two, they were outright dicks to us right up to the last moment. They didn't try and repair the situation until they had not only shot themselves in the foot, but amputated it and rubbed gangrenous meat on the stump. This is a bad way to get my business.DTWolfwood said:
You're still not of the hook Microsoft.
The Xbone may take used games and have no drm requirements but you are still not redeemed.
You still tried to screw over the consumers for personal gain. You still acted unreasonable and hostile when confronted about anything.
and you are still pushing shit with didn't want at us like Kinect, tv, no games and you'll still spy on us.
We do not trust you anymore.
You listened to what we wanted and you did the things we told you not to.
And now you can't even stand by it. You spineless, greedy basterds. You are far from being of the hook
The Xbone may take used games and have no drm requirements but you are still not redeemed.
You still tried to screw over the consumers for personal gain. You still acted unreasonable and hostile when confronted about anything.
and you are still pushing shit with didn't want at us like Kinect, tv, no games and you'll still spy on us.
We do not trust you anymore.
You listened to what we wanted and you did the things we told you not to.
And now you can't even stand by it. You spineless, greedy basterds. You are far from being of the hook
Can you explain about Sony's motivation? You mean the money? Not going against your saying or anything, just a bit confused is all. I don't mind that either companies are after the money as long as they deliver something that the consumers want. That's a sensible trade, isn't it?LostintheWick said:
Here's a phrase Pierce Brosnan taught me in the film Dante's Peak, and I'll never forget it.
"Put a frog into boiling water, and it'll jump right out. Put a frog into cold water, and slowly heat it, and it will boil to death."
"So, is that your recipe for frog soup?"
"It's my recipe for disaster."
Mark my words, they'll bring these restrictions back very slowly so as the general public are less phased by them, and sooner or later we'll be back to square one. Nothing MS say now will make me trust them, especially after the verbal shit Angry Joe had to take from Major Nelson at E3, regarding the "you want to go to the future don't you Angry Joe?" and the "are you an Xbox technician? How do you know it's simple to disable the always online?" What a nasty little man.
"Put a frog into boiling water, and it'll jump right out. Put a frog into cold water, and slowly heat it, and it will boil to death."
"So, is that your recipe for frog soup?"
"It's my recipe for disaster."
Mark my words, they'll bring these restrictions back very slowly so as the general public are less phased by them, and sooner or later we'll be back to square one. Nothing MS say now will make me trust them, especially after the verbal shit Angry Joe had to take from Major Nelson at E3, regarding the "you want to go to the future don't you Angry Joe?" and the "are you an Xbox technician? How do you know it's simple to disable the always online?" What a nasty little man.
I don't think anyone will say you're wrong in your points. Hell, I agree with you 110%!Busard said:
This is a glorious day! Microsoft is scrambling around trying to recoup the good will and sales they pissed away, and in the process validated all the rumors of their deceit. It's almost poetic in a way.
Personally, Microsoft doesn't deserve any of that consumer trust back, considering how they all but fucked us all over. But the power of the consumer has spoken. If Microsoft doesn't want to completely dismantle or sell off their gaming division they better learn how to play ball with the consumer.
We're the power here, not them.
While this is some sort of solution, it's not a very good one.Arnoxthe1 said:
What if you don't want one at all? Can you buy the console without it?
What if you don't have space to even put a Kinect, let alone use one.
What if you don't have a lot of money and don't want to pay extra for something almost completely fucking useless barring it's advanced voice recognition (which could be implemented into a headset microphone).
Captcha: Pea brain.
Now now Captcha, you don't want to feel the banhammer do you? That's rude.