Microsoft Drops Xbox One DRM Restrictions - UPDATED

CrazyCapnMorgan

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This makes me wonder two things:

1)How much information about the XBox One80 was a blatant lie

And

2)If ClifyB still thinks used games are bad

Either way, they still want us to be Kinected, so it's still a 'no' for me.
 

Shamanic Rhythm

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Oskuro said:
All this tells me is that these features were neither essential nor difficult to remove.

Again, features that are forced unto consumers for no good reason beyond the manufacturer's benefit.

I'm not happy. They will keep trying this. They are now trying to save face so the Xbone sells somewhat, and, mark my words, once the system is adopted they'll gradually reintroduce the limitations.

Heck, that's their strategy with Windows 8 and the Windows Store! As has been in the past with all their products.


It'll be interesting to see, at the end of this next generation, how many of the things being decried now as unfair have eventually been introduced and assimilated as normal.

Sad times ahead.
Amen, brother. Also, if you read the press release, the Xbone still needs to be connected at least once: "After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One". They're not even backpedaling that far away from it.

My bet is they'll replicate what Sony did with the PS3 Other OS removal and reinstate the DRM three years in, citing piracy of games as a crippling problem they have to curb to remain viable. The only reason they've 'removed' the DRM now is to get the console to sell, because they were obviously banking that Sony would do the same as them.

Captcha: know your rights.
Amen to you too, captcha.
 

Saltyk

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While I do applaud Microsoft for making this move and actually listening to their customers, I don't care.

Too little too late. They intended to use this concept. They defended it and effectively insulted us at every turn while doing so. They aren't sorry. They don't think they were wrong. They are doing this to save face. Because PS4 was destroying them on every front. They care about your money, not your rights as a consumer. Fuck Microsoft.

No one should buy the console. It's tainted. I want to see those pompous jerks actually apologize. To say they are sorry. That would be something.

Oh, and Titanfall will likely be porting over to PS4 as well. The developers seem to be implying as such.

So, I'm sticking with my better, cheaper, system, with a company that at least pretends to listen to me. Besides, Infamous 3, Knack, support for Indie developers... The list goes on.
 

Thoughtful_Salt

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And now the only obstacle is the price tag, which is still too high. But now xbox comes in at a near tie for my affections with the ps4
 

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Microsoft's first "port of call" with the XB1 was to favour the corporations and crap on the consumer. They've been hit by massive backlash and have deemed it "profitable" to reverse the policies.

This, contrary to what everyone is saying, is a bad thing. Many will change allegiance back to the XB1 on the basis of this reversal, making them massively prone to Microsoft, at any point, switching all these measures back on. Or, they'll do a frog in slow-boiling water move, and re-introduce them over a number of years. At that point, you're so invested in the eco-system, that you're stuck, unless you have huge disposable income.

Yes, this is all stuff that has not happened (yet), but, considering Microsoft's initial performance at E3 and everything it introduced with the XB1 initially, betting on them pulling something like that would be a sensible bet.

I'm not really a console person, but if I was to consider one, it will be the PS4. And not just for this whole drama. The PS4 just looks to be the superior console, all round, even with it being on "level terms" with the XB1 in terms of these policies.
 

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We listened to our customers...

Bullshit, you realised that you had just handed you primary opponent a great big huge club to beat you to death with and now you're desperately trying to make the club go away.

If this was a reaction to customer feedback then it would have been announced at E3 ahead of Sony tearing them a new asshole (and leaving Sony with a lot less fan love)...instead MS waited to see if Sony were going to join them in this act of lunacy and now are doing desperate damage control.
 

ActionDan

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Nothing is going to stop them from just reversing the decision partway through the generation. Still not going to trust them with a barge-pole.
 

JokerboyJordan

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Everyone of the higher ups at Microsoft's gaming division should be fired.

Mattrick, Nelson, PR guys, everyone.

Fucking assholes, the lot of them.
 

chozo_hybrid

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Micalas said:
I'm sure the EULA states they can turn these requirements back on at any time. The architecture is surely built into the console already and I doubt they'd be going back to remove it. This is probably nothing more than an On/Off switch.
Exactly, I'm not going to trust them. Their true nature has been shown and I want no part in that... A shame since I love my 360.
 

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inkheart_artist said:
Okay, Jim Sterling. Can we now take a look at how shitty the PS4 and the Xbox One (really the whole next gen of consoles) are now that they're on equal footing?
But that's the thing, they're not on equal footing, it's just less uneven than before
The 180 still requires online when you first log on with a new game
It's still 100 dollars more expensive
Kinect is still required
The PS4 is still markedly more powerful
There is a greater variety of exclusives on the PS4
The PS4 still has drastically superior indy support
PS+ is a far superior service compared tio Live, and it cheaper (Especially if Amazon is correct when it says that Xbox Lie will go up to 100 bucks for the 180)
And the PS4 can be used on non-HDMi TVs
Plus other little things, like being able to use Netflix on sony systems WITHOUT a PS+ subscription, unlike Micrsoft
 

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Shamanic Rhythm said:
Oskuro said:
All this tells me is that these features were neither essential nor difficult to remove.

Again, features that are forced unto consumers for no good reason beyond the manufacturer's benefit.

I'm not happy. They will keep trying this. They are now trying to save face so the Xbone sells somewhat, and, mark my words, once the system is adopted they'll gradually reintroduce the limitations.

Heck, that's their strategy with Windows 8 and the Windows Store! As has been in the past with all their products.


It'll be interesting to see, at the end of this next generation, how many of the things being decried now as unfair have eventually been introduced and assimilated as normal.

Sad times ahead.
Amen, brother. Also, if you read the press release, the Xbone still needs to be connected at least once: "After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One". They're not even backpedaling that far away from it.

My bet is they'll replicate what Sony did with the PS3 Other OS removal and reinstate the DRM three years in, citing piracy of games as a crippling problem they have to curb to remain viable. The only reason they've 'removed' the DRM now is to get the console to sell, because they were obviously banking that Sony would do the same as them.

Captcha: know your rights.
Amen to you too, captcha.
I was going to say something similar to the above two posts, but now I don't have to. At any rate, it is huge that this is confirmed. But I still don't want Kinect, so yeah. Still not a purchase.
 

lacktheknack

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So much strangled stumbling attempted hate in this thread.

Microsoft DID SOMETHING RIGHT, in a quantity that took EVERYONE by surprise (yes, including you). Can we not just have a one-thread fiesta before we go right back to "no, screw you" or "now get rid of the Kinect"?

No?

Sadface.
 

hatok

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lacktheknack said:
So much strangled stumbling attempted hate in this thread.

Microsoft DID SOMETHING RIGHT, in a quantity that took EVERYONE by surprise (yes, including you). Can we not just have a one-thread siesta before we go right back to "no, screw you" or "now get rid of the Kinect"?

No?

Sadface.
They did something right, but only to escape a problem they created. That's not praiseworthy
 

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So...the supposed "need" for the cloud to make all these new awesome xbox one games possible is somehow...lifted now? How? What made it happen?



Are they gonna shelf all those games now cause people don't want the cloud?



Hmm...something tells me these games didn't really need that thing at all in the first place!
 

lacktheknack

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hatok said:
lacktheknack said:
So much strangled stumbling attempted hate in this thread.

Microsoft DID SOMETHING RIGHT, in a quantity that took EVERYONE by surprise (yes, including you). Can we not just have a one-thread siesta before we go right back to "no, screw you" or "now get rid of the Kinect"?

No?

Sadface.
They did something right, but only to escape a problem they created. That's not praiseworthy
I didn't say "praise Microsoft", I said "one-thread siesta".

Because, you know, consumers have displayed that they have some power for once. That's worth being really excited about.
 

JokerboyJordan

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hatok said:
inkheart_artist said:
Okay, Jim Sterling. Can we now take a look at how shitty the PS4 and the Xbox One (really the whole next gen of consoles) are now that they're on equal footing?
But that's the thing, they're not on equal footing, it's just less uneven than before
The 180 still requires online when you first log on with a new game
It's still 100 dollars more expensive
Kinect is still required
The PS4 is still markedly more powerful
There is a greater variety of exclusives on the PS4
The PS4 still has drastically superior indy support
PS+ is a far superior service compared tio Live, and it cheaper (Especially if Amazon is correct when it says that Xbox Lie will go up to 100 bucks for the 180)
And the PS4 can be used on non-HDMi TVs
Plus other little things, like being able to use Netflix on sony systems WITHOUT a PS+ subscription, unlike Micrsoft
For the last time, all of the Amazon prices on the as-of-yet unpriced consoles are PLACEHOLDERS.
 

lacktheknack

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
lacktheknack said:
So much strangled stumbling attempted hate in this thread.

Microsoft DID SOMETHING RIGHT, in a quantity that took EVERYONE by surprise (yes, including you). Can we not just have a one-thread siesta before we go right back to "no, screw you" or "now get rid of the Kinect"?

No?

Sadface.
I would give them props... if they did this at ALL for the benefit of their customers.

But they didn't. They did it because Sony pre-orders were reportedly 11-to-1 over XBone preorders, and because the social media outcry reached a crescendo.
See my above post. I'm not saying we should throw ourselves into the arms of Microsoft (they haven't earned it), but still, CONSUMER VICTORY! WOOOOOOOOOOO!