Microsoft Exec: "If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really Backwards"
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And yet despite "vastly different hardware architecture" I can still use dosbox to play games from the eighties. It's not a very good excuse.Sgt. Sykes said:
"Because they can't do it perfectly, they shouldn't bother doing it at all." Did I get that right? Because that's plain silly. They're certainly not going to get it right by not trying.Sgt. Sykes said:
It is a silly move for the consumer. It's also a vital move to the company. The company has the most to lose or gain in how launch plays out, and they're the ones making the console. Throwing away all the aces they could have in their sleeves is not a smart move.Sgt. Sykes said:
Same reason anybody would buy an upgrade, they want better and faster than what they have. "Blu-ray players can play DVD better than DVD Players" it was one of the major selling points, and it worked.Sgt. Sykes said:
Also, "Early adopters are tech fans and generally don't need to be bothered that much by BC." What is the logic behind this: that because tech fans are their lap dogs it's alright for that company to spit in these early-adopters' faces because they'll take what they're given? Now I am curious how company word that in the mission statement when they make it their goal to piss on their customers.
What do you mean: "what you'd do with the old console"? People do different things. I've heard that most people store that in case of emergencies. We're talking about a plethora of devices that are fighting to be on the same hdmi ports and displayed on the same tv at a given time. Microsoft will want that choice to include Xbone - the last thing it needs is competition from 360.Sgt. Sykes said:
but...WHAT?
Why would he say such a thing - everything Microsoft Windows was about backwards compatibility - you can play most of your games that ran on win95 even on Win7. What about all the shitty compatibility modes, etc.? what about all your Windows upgrades that were just adding another layer of weirdness to the huge pile? Microsoft, you LIVE from backwards compatibility. if you look at Macs, none of their programs from 10 years ago would work on current machines.
you give pretty much backwards compatibility for machines from more than 15(!) years ago. don't just say that backwards compatibility is not a thing D: !
Why would he say such a thing - everything Microsoft Windows was about backwards compatibility - you can play most of your games that ran on win95 even on Win7. What about all the shitty compatibility modes, etc.? what about all your Windows upgrades that were just adding another layer of weirdness to the huge pile? Microsoft, you LIVE from backwards compatibility. if you look at Macs, none of their programs from 10 years ago would work on current machines.
you give pretty much backwards compatibility for machines from more than 15(!) years ago. don't just say that backwards compatibility is not a thing D: !
Well I guess I'm backwards I use play my PS2 pretty frequently, in fact I'm waiting for a copy of Final Fantasy X to arrive off Ebay so I can try that.
I might end up buying a next-gen console a few years down the line, once it has decent library of games and has had a few price cuts. But, the lack of backwards compatibility has made me lose interest in both the Xbone and PS4 for the foreseeable future.
I might end up buying a next-gen console a few years down the line, once it has decent library of games and has had a few price cuts. But, the lack of backwards compatibility has made me lose interest in both the Xbone and PS4 for the foreseeable future.
Sure, why would you want to play your collection of old games on the Xbone, when you can run right out and buy them brand new all over again?
so the logic is : xbox one is all in one ... but if you want to play games from the original xbox ( wich i gues is not the number one ) or 360 you have to keep the other consoles ... even better ... you can place the kinect bar on top of the other kinect bar. All of that to play the next forza ,halo and call of duty that probably will be NOTHING like the ones we played before... makes sense ...
oh by the way i have a theory.. xbox ONE because it really is a number one .... they are literaly pissing on us
oh by the way i have a theory.. xbox ONE because it really is a number one .... they are literaly pissing on us
So your entire Xbox 360 line is throwaway. Congrats, you don't have any respect for current Xbox 360 titles, by shunning backwards compatibility altogether you're cheapening games as completely disposable. F**k you too, microsoft.
seriously what the fuck is wrong with you MS?
first the Xbone revealing that had nothing to do with games, then the indie news that say you still wont let them self publish and now this? what the hell are you doing? you suddenly thought you have too many costumers and want to loose them? you thought MS is getting too big and want to make it smaller? because i cant think of any other reason.
really don? what the hell were you thinking when you called some of your potential customers (as small they may be) backwards?
first the Xbone revealing that had nothing to do with games, then the indie news that say you still wont let them self publish and now this? what the hell are you doing? you suddenly thought you have too many costumers and want to loose them? you thought MS is getting too big and want to make it smaller? because i cant think of any other reason.
really don? what the hell were you thinking when you called some of your potential customers (as small they may be) backwards?
Wouldn't it be possible to sell some kind of addon box that can be plugged in and used as an emulator? It probably wouldn't be cheap, but if the option of buying one existed, people wouldn't feel so wronged. It's the fact that they are basically saying fuck you to BC that is annoying. For example, I get that PS4 can't emulate PS1-3, but why not 1 only? I don't see why that isn't possible.
Well when your backwards compatability doesn't work right and many of the games can't even be played on the new console of course the percent of people that play will be low... Also since most console models that have been out don't even support backwards compatability his arguement on statistics being low is a no shit!... I understand the added cost and time to add backwards compatability and would be fine with not having it if they could have all the games able to be downloadable and transferable also playable offline once on the system...
Yeah his statistics are just completely coming out of his ass. Seriously if it doesn't work right or makes the game worse why would you play on it to begin with... They should atleast make it possible to maybe buy a seperate add on that can make playing older 360 or ps3 games possible for both systems. I think the market for that would show a revenue gain for them if done right...Dogstile said:
Even though Sony is doing the same with the PS4 they can still look good if they just don't act like dicks to the consumer, have a good game start, and not having the dumb restrictions Xbone is going to have. Still sucks that there is not even a option to add backwards compatability for it could increase revenue if sold seperate, but then they would have to moddable which both companies seem completely against in any form.canadamus_prime said:
You who doesn't have to care about backwards compatibility, a PC gamer.
I can still play the over 10 year old Half-Life² on my machine and many many other classics. And yes I still play some of my older games from time to time. Especially the HL² + Ep1 and Ep2 games are played at least once a year....
So much for not caring and never touching older games ever again...
I can still play the over 10 year old Half-Life² on my machine and many many other classics. And yes I still play some of my older games from time to time. Especially the HL² + Ep1 and Ep2 games are played at least once a year....
So much for not caring and never touching older games ever again...
One of the reasons I got the Wii U on release was because it was backwards compatible with Wii titles, so I could retire my old, tired Wii. It even got all the VC console games in the Wii-mode 
When it comes to Xbone, I've not really concidered buying it, even though I have a Xbox 360. And when the Microsoft exec just keep pissing of us gamers with saying stupid things like that, it's just one more reason not to go Xbone.
I think the PS4 isn't backwards compatible either, but at least Sony execs doesn't say that many stupid things to piss us off. And I might get myself a PS4 eventually, because over the years I found I prefer the PS3 to the Xbox 360, and because of Microsofts ongoing stupidity and arrogance.
When it comes to Xbone, I've not really concidered buying it, even though I have a Xbox 360. And when the Microsoft exec just keep pissing of us gamers with saying stupid things like that, it's just one more reason not to go Xbone.
I think the PS4 isn't backwards compatible either, but at least Sony execs doesn't say that many stupid things to piss us off. And I might get myself a PS4 eventually, because over the years I found I prefer the PS3 to the Xbox 360, and because of Microsofts ongoing stupidity and arrogance.
Oh this is fucking hilarious. They make crappy backwards compatiblity in the xbox 360 then use the fact that people cant play a lot of their old games on it as a statistic proving people dont want backward compatibility.
/Facepalm doesnt cover it, there just aint that many facepalms in the world.
/Facepalm doesnt cover it, there just aint that many facepalms in the world.
"Only 5% of customers"... one in twenty. So fuck those guys, since that's such a completely negligible number in a gigantic fucking market.
...I still use my first-gen "60GB" (it's a 320 now) PS3 for PS2 and PS1 games more often than PS3 games...
I do so love microsoft for creating this new travesty of a machine. With every generation, their ineptitude becomes more obvious. Delicious.
...I still use my first-gen "60GB" (it's a 320 now) PS3 for PS2 and PS1 games more often than PS3 games...
I do so love microsoft for creating this new travesty of a machine. With every generation, their ineptitude becomes more obvious. Delicious.