Microsoft: PS4 vs. Xbox One 1080p/60fps Differences "Pretty Minor"

[Kenjitsuka]

"I think these little things get way overblown"
When I read that, I thought: 'If it was the other way around this guy would be SHOUTING it across the rooftops himself!'.

And then he says:
"Sometimes I think people tend to neglect the points that are in my favor and they like to highlight the points that tell me that I am wrong. "

No wayyyyyyyyyyy! That's how this game works, and he knows it. Pfft, a sore loser trying to do damage control :\
He should check the ads MSFT is running attacking firms like Apple, before he wants to claim his company is above such things.

 

[Shinsei-J]

Um okay, I'm not really on ether side of this console thing just to say that my subjective interpretation of what's going on hasn't been swayed by allegiance to ether plastic overlord, so here's what it sounds like to me.

Microsoft has noticed and accepted the superiority of Sony's consoles power which means that they can't actually claim to be better in that department. So they're now trying to lessen the gap, play it off as unimportant (the exact thing they advertised as the best) and say that it's some other stuff in their console that makes it better and that they're being unfairly judged compared to the competition.
*sigh*
I really don't care all that much about the slight power difference, I just hate this whole dance of higher ups spin doctoring anything negative into "not being understood properly by the peons"
Jeez, if they were to just say "look the difference is slight at best, to the point where over the next console cycle most people won't even notice but we've got a fully integrated voice command system that means not taking up an extra button on the controller for medial tasks thus giving you a smoother more immersive gaming experience. You know you want that." I'm sure they'd get a lot less flak.
God damn... I'm going back to playing my 3ds to calm down.

[sub]This was written in a white rage of not being able to understand people, please excuse my idealistic answers.[/sub]

 

[Roander]

I think these little things get way overblown versus like the quality of the games and the real differences in the two experiences which are pretty minor.

Could it be? Are gaming executives finally beginning to realize that game-play is more important than graphics?

Right now, I still think Ryse is still the best looking game on any platform. Period. End of story.

Nope. Guess I misread that.

 

[vagabondwillsmile]

I don't think I have heard any Sony execs pounding on about the power of their console like this really. Perhaps they have (in fact I would think they probably have), but I've not read about it. Yet every week, Microsoft staff are coming out of the woodwork to proclaim their dominance. It comes off as being defensive to a fault. Or you know that guy who is constantly engaging in one-up-manship with everybody for no useful reason ("yah, well MY Mercedes has...", or "the fish I caught was...", "YOUR whatever isn't whatever", etc)? It's like their executive officers are a hive mind of that guy.

 

[Worgen]

Sorry but it's factual the PS4 is more powerful. Just get over it people. Even if it is minor (which it isn't for some titles).

It's more powerful but not enough to matter at all. All the games that show up on both systems will look and play almost identical. Pretty much how it happened with the 360 and ps3.

 

[sneakypenguin]

PC gamers comment about consoles being vastly underpowered sub 720 sub 30 fps machines(mostly) for the last 5 years and its elitism. One console runs quicker than another by a smaller performance gap than aforementioned pc and its an important difference.

 

[Sight Unseen]

Sorry but it's factual the PS4 is more powerful. Just get over it people. Even if it is minor (which it isn't for some titles).

The Ps3 was also pretty powerful... but hardly anyone could figure out how to use that power due to the engine.

Power means nothing if it cannot be adequately applied.

Except now the PS4, PC, and Xbox all use identical architectures so that shouldn't be a problem anymore.

 

[Orange12345]

I don't really care THAT much if a game is 60 FPS but it's just depressingly surprising to see that this is what the "next-gen" hardware can do. I mean really? you can't get 60 FPS on a game that is also on the previous platform? what exactly was the point of this new generation if they can't at least bring things up to 1080 60 fps?

 

[JenSeven]

Right now, I still think Ryse is still the best looking game on any platform. Period. End of story.


Really? How is PC for a platform? Does it have better looking games? Capable of better graphical performance? Capable of better processing power?

I think the answer to all of this is YES.
So shut up about your little toybox and go PC!

 

[kingraven24]

Microsoft isn't the only ones who think the differences are minor or non-existent and blown way out of proportion. If you have some time and aren't familiar with the hardware setup, try this YouTube podcast I found - http://youtu.be/reNiLYDpXoc (a little long and not the most professional presentation but the information is great if you're not very entrenched in the hardware conversation already). It talks more specifically about the hardware, which you MUST do in order to understand what's going on when comparing the two consoles. The PS4 is more straight-forward in its hardware engineering compared to the Xbox One which make short-term and day one developing a bit easier. Perhaps the only games to use the 32MB of ESRAM on the Xbox One were Microsoft Game Studios because they knew about it in advance. Ryse looked incredibly good for a launch title and I too think it looks better than any other XB1/PS4 title on launch days for each. Historically, consoles have had to get a couple years under their belts before the capabilities really get exercised in any new console. Microsoft will benefit from that more in the first couple years than Sony.

The 3rd party titles will even out pretty soon. The differences are barely noticeable on the few games that do appear to be better looking on the PS4. But as some people have already reaffirmed in the comments thread here - better graphics don't equal better games. It's still too early to tell, but Microsoft seems to be the more interesting console based solely off of to-be-released exclusives that will tap multiple genres and demographics. Sony has one or two of their own, sure, but with so many NEW experiences and returning franchises on Xbox One I'm more excited about gaming on that platform in 2014-2015 than I've been on any console before.

 

[SamTheNewb]

Honestly, he is probably right, small variances in resolution and framerates between systems on a television screen are probably minor differences. But... if that is the only difference then it is the thing that is most noticeable. Sure, if people cared about Kinect it would overshadow issues like these, but, yeah well, we will have to see about that.

 

[bluegate]

I think these little things get way overblown versus like the quality of the games and the real differences in the two experiences which are pretty minor.

Little things like the PS4's GPU being roughly 50% better than the Xbone's, yeah little things.

I'm pretty sure that if it were the other way around, then they would be plastering the world with posters saying that their console was the best technical piece of kit around. So it is kind of painful to see them playing this card now.

 

[Denamic]

Let's pretend for a moment that a 30 FPS difference is minor. It's still a difference, and on top of that, it's the more expensive console that performs worse. Even if it actually was a minor difference, the better option is still obvious.

 

[Something Amyss]

Sorry but it's factual the PS4 is more powerful. Just get over it people. Even if it is minor (which it isn't for some titles).

The fans should, but Microsoft can't. It's in their best interest to downplay the technical superiority of the PS4.

 

[Andy Shandy]

Resolution, I'd agree on. I'm perfectly happy with how pretty games are on the Xbox One at the moment, even though I know they could be prettier/more defined. I found the whole "Resolution-gate" argument to be particularly hilarious.

FPS though is a different issue. It affects the gameplay. I can deal with 30 perfectly well unlike some people, but 60 (and above) does just feel a lot better.

 

[Icehearted]

I immediately thought of the Fox and the Grapes:

A fox, almost with hunger dying,
Some grapes upon a trellis spying,
To all appearance ripe, clad in
Their tempting russet skin,
Most gladly would have eat them;
But since he could not get them,
So far above his reach the vine--
'They're sour,' he said; 'such grapes as these,
The dogs may eat them if they please!'
Did he not better than to whine?

So why not let the system speak for itself? I know that a lot of what Microsoft had to say didn't sit well before the damned thing even launched, so why not just release quality software and learn to stop dicking the consumer over at every opportunity?

I also remember when being technologically superior was a selling point for the Xbox over the PlayStation 2. Seems convenient and a bit hypocritical that they would downplay such things now.

 

[FalloutJack]

Zoop!

Oooh, haven't heard that one in a LONG time. Anyway, yes. The technically-superior X-Box that- Whoops, RROD. God, I hope for their sake they don't have anything like that NOW. Final nail in the coffin there.

 

[Someone Depressing]

He works for Microsoft. He's not basically going to say, "Yeah, they're almost as good as us. Our jobs count on being better than them. As does your $700."

Besides, does it really matter? The Sega Saturn was very, very powerful. It flopped like no fish has ever flopped before.

 

[RandV80]

Do you agree with Penello and think the resolution and frame rate differences are being overblown, or is he wrong and these things will play a bigger factor once developers get more time with the consoles?

Not overblown at all. Personally the Xbox One's lower resolution/frame rate wouldn't bother me at all, I've never cared too much for those things in my games. Rather I'm be worried about what this means for the future in other areas, as a high end game is more than just frame rates and pixel counts. These are launch titles, developers never get the most out of a console at launch that usually takes 2-3 years. If these weaker games are falling behind in technical specs already on the Xbone, I'm worried about the decisions a developer like Bethesda is going to make when they start figuring out how big and how dynamic they can make their next TES or Fallout game and how much they'll have to downscale/cut so the game will run on the lowest common denominator.

Now I don't really care about the Sony vs Microsoft thing, I'm a PC/Nintendo guy so I'm worried about how these significantly lower specs will hurt PC ports.

 

[Baresark]

It honestly doesn't matter which system is more powerful, only software matters. Most people seem to feel the Xbox One has better games at this point. I haven't seen any proof otherwise, to be honest. Microsoft is just so afraid of what anyone says, they let idiots like this guy basically lie to make them look better. Ryse is an OK looking game, that has shit gameplay, as I understand it. If MS had any brains, they would simply not even address the complaints. Who gives a fuck, whether your hardware is better or worse, we are stuck with it now. You just look bad when you jump to it's defense. You could simply buckle down and find ways to get the system to perform up to your expectations, get all the juice out of it you can, so to speak. But instead you are going to sit there and say, "I know more about what's going on in the background, trust me, we have a more powerful system. Your senses are wrong, our version of games are all better."