The Bloodstained 2 kickstarter could be out by the time MN9 is finished. And the stretch goals will have been already met on the merits people loved the first Bloodstained.Aiddon said:And this is why Inafune was never left in charge of anything at CAPCOM. Criminy, Igarashi's Bloodstained will be out before this game.
I find it ironic that you linked to a comic with a paragraph about the hypocrisy of people complaining about Kickstarted game delays, then go on to complain about a Kickstarted game being delayed.truckspond said:Relevant
I wish this guy would just ditch the stupid multiplayer dream and just release the singleplayer already - for their sake. I am also VERY happy that I didn't give money to this thing.
I backed this and I'm not particularly worried. I know going into each and every Kickstarter there's a risk the product may never exist, or there will large delays. There are so many games out already that I just keep playing those and I'll play this when it finally does release. People who get genuinely mad about Kickstarter delays and such really aren't the sort of people who should be using Kickstarter in the first place. It's not a preorder, it's a potential investment. You kick in some amount of money on the hopes you get something worthwhile, and there is no way you'll get a payout 100% of the time. If you don't want to take the risk, don't partake in the Kickstarter. If it's funded anyway, you can still buy the game at retail.DemomanHusband said:Ah, Comcept. Proving yet again that big name, big budget Kickstarter campaigns are the devil. I feel for whoever backed or pre-ordered this game, I eagerly await the day Keiji finally reveals that the whole thing was a pyramid scheme and that the only thing they'll get for their money is a t-shirt of the infamous MN9 Community Manager.
See, the implication that a Kickstarter is more akin to an investment is moot when the point of actually backing a kickstarter is to receive a product rather than a literal payout. There is such false advertising, blatant dishonesty, and mishandling of backer funding in almost every highly backed Kickstarter that you and anyone else who enable this sort of behavior from Kickstarter dependent developers are more akin to the 'Whales' that Free-To-Play games thrive off of than actual investors. I know this probably sounds rude, but after dealing with several friends of mine who refuse to believe Keiji Inafune, Tim Schafer, and others like them would be so crass as to go into the business of begging for money simply for the sake of getting as much money as possible rather than for the sake of making a good product, I've become rather annoyed with Kickstarter enablers.MazokuRanma said:I backed this and I'm not particularly worried. I know going into each and every Kickstarter there's a risk the product may never exist, or there will large delays. There are so many games out already that I just keep playing those and I'll play this when it finally does release. People who get genuinely mad about Kickstarter delays and such really aren't the sort of people who should be using Kickstarter in the first place. It's not a preorder, it's a potential investment. You kick in some amount of money on the hopes you get something worthwhile, and there is no way you'll get a payout 100% of the time. If you don't want to take the risk, don't partake in the Kickstarter. If it's funded anyway, you can still buy the game at retail.DemomanHusband said:Ah, Comcept. Proving yet again that big name, big budget Kickstarter campaigns are the devil. I feel for whoever backed or pre-ordered this game, I eagerly await the day Keiji finally reveals that the whole thing was a pyramid scheme and that the only thing they'll get for their money is a t-shirt of the infamous MN9 Community Manager.
See, I just don't see it the same way. The product is the payout for the investment, and sometimes that simply doesn't pan it out, be it with hedge funds or Kickstarters. I also do believe that these people truly want to make good games, though I also believe they're motivated by profit as well. I've received dozens of cool products through Kickstarter at this point, and only a handful of failures, because I'm careful with my backed projects. Even for those failures I considered them higher risk ventures and pledged less money, but sometimes I find it worth the chance of losing money to give someone the opportunity to make a cool game.DemomanHusband said:See, the implication that a Kickstarter is more akin to an investment is moot when the point of actually backing a kickstarter is to receive a product rather than a literal payout. There is such false advertising, blatant dishonesty, and mishandling of backer funding in almost every highly backed Kickstarter that you and anyone else who enable this sort of behavior from Kickstarter dependent developers are more akin to the 'Whales' that Free-To-Play games thrive off of than actual investors. I know this probably sounds rude, but after dealing with several friends of mine who refuse to believe Keiji Inafune, Tim Schafer, and others like them would be so crass as to go into the business of begging for money simply for the sake of getting as much money as possible rather than for the sake of making a good product, I've become rather annoyed with Kickstarter enablers.MazokuRanma said:I backed this and I'm not particularly worried. I know going into each and every Kickstarter there's a risk the product may never exist, or there will large delays. There are so many games out already that I just keep playing those and I'll play this when it finally does release. People who get genuinely mad about Kickstarter delays and such really aren't the sort of people who should be using Kickstarter in the first place. It's not a preorder, it's a potential investment. You kick in some amount of money on the hopes you get something worthwhile, and there is no way you'll get a payout 100% of the time. If you don't want to take the risk, don't partake in the Kickstarter. If it's funded anyway, you can still buy the game at retail.DemomanHusband said:Ah, Comcept. Proving yet again that big name, big budget Kickstarter campaigns are the devil. I feel for whoever backed or pre-ordered this game, I eagerly await the day Keiji finally reveals that the whole thing was a pyramid scheme and that the only thing they'll get for their money is a t-shirt of the infamous MN9 Community Manager.