Miracle's Whip - Fallout: New Vegas
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Great review. I loved FO3 too and the setting there was perfectly executed. To me the Mojave is a bit less atmospheric, as you said. But I do love the special perks at the begining. I have a question to anyone playing with the wacky wasteland perk on. Has it once activated for you or shown you something different? Cause I don't think it has for me
I disagree about the 'less athmospheric', less 'epic' because the tone is shifted up.
The F3 DC vista was amazing but the whole tone of the game just bugged me to the point where I couldn't swallow the athmosphere. Everything was so clunky and overdramatisized that in fact it had the adverse effect of nothing seeming serious to me. I mean, I think tragedy is best performed on a subtle level and F3 tried to go all out with trumpets and tears.
I mean the icing on the cake was the ending with the gow awful 'save yourself for humanity' bit. It's like these guys never played a Fallout game. I was left not tragically moved, but I actually just laughed and felt dissapoint.
What I'll give F3 was the amazingly perfect 50s simulation, in which you're transformed into the recreated world, which ended up on my alltime 'out of game' holyshit moments in game history (along with the overworld scene in Grim Fandango among others). That was expertly done, haven't found a similar 'whoa' experience in F:NV.
You wanna see tragedy? Here:
I mean....how can they..how...how can they expect you to shoot these lovable creatures. *sniff* It's just...so unfair, I mean...life's unfair. Look at it. LOOK AT IT! *openly sobs*
Thanks for teaching me about the cruelty of humanity Fallout ;D.
The F3 DC vista was amazing but the whole tone of the game just bugged me to the point where I couldn't swallow the athmosphere. Everything was so clunky and overdramatisized that in fact it had the adverse effect of nothing seeming serious to me. I mean, I think tragedy is best performed on a subtle level and F3 tried to go all out with trumpets and tears.
I mean the icing on the cake was the ending with the gow awful 'save yourself for humanity' bit. It's like these guys never played a Fallout game. I was left not tragically moved, but I actually just laughed and felt dissapoint.
What I'll give F3 was the amazingly perfect 50s simulation, in which you're transformed into the recreated world, which ended up on my alltime 'out of game' holyshit moments in game history (along with the overworld scene in Grim Fandango among others). That was expertly done, haven't found a similar 'whoa' experience in F:NV.
You wanna see tragedy? Here:
I can haz Doctor's bag?
I mean....how can they..how...how can they expect you to shoot these lovable creatures. *sniff* It's just...so unfair, I mean...life's unfair. Look at it. LOOK AT IT! *openly sobs*
Thanks for teaching me about the cruelty of humanity Fallout ;D.
I don't think it 'activates' per se, but a few additional things can happen. For example you can find an alien blaster. That sort of thing.Icarion said:
Mathew Perry plays Benny, your would-be killer. I'd rather have spent 40 hours chasing Courtney Cox, but oh well.Scobie said:
The endings to New Vegas are logical, epic and amazing. Don't worry!Scobie said:
Yep. Though I would avoid taking Boone around. He's horribly overpowered, as well as being a grumpy bastard.Scobie said:
I see your point, my preference of the Fallout 3 world is more to do with the aesthetics and landscape though.Brotherofwill said:
I don't care if something is cute and cuddly, as soon as it breathes fire or bites me I'm shooting that demon lizard in the face. the thing I hated the most by far was the Cazadors. annoying stupid evil butterflies. I loved this game though there was one point I was going to snap the game disk in half after I lost 6 hours of game play due to a corrupted save file. and the part in the train tunnel where I couldn't go into a room because apparently it was a trap door straight to hell that sent me back to the beginning of the area. and Ed-E's side quest never worked out for me. Other than that I found the game more challenging(seriously, you should never be able to own a deadclaw unless you're well into the game, I don't care if it makes it "linear") the complexity of the story is what makes this game work despite the moments of extreme frustration caused by bugs and cazadors. I flipping hate those things!
Damn, thanks for reminding me.Ninjamedic said:
Be warned people, the game has a couple of bugs!
I didn't mind the enemy levelling syndrome to be honest. It was better than pouring 600 bullets into an albino radscorpion!
That's true, but I still nearly made a dent in the ceiling when I entered that Fire Station in Camp Searchlight...Ultratwinkie said:
Just wait it'll happen.Jimmybobjr said:
Great review mate but mmm... I don't recall every house in Fallout 3 being a huge dungeon filled with treasure... o.o
And what was that about a raping in Vault 11?? I was there and never saw that I must find it now! (Goes on 360)
I like it, despite all its flaws and its limited size; in my opinion its immersive, challenging, and most of all fun. if you can look past the god-awful loading times and linearity at the beginning its a step up from FO3, and for the record FO3 was the reason I ended up buying an Xbox, played it at a friends house and decided "dude I want more Wasteland" so went out and made the purchase. But like everything that isn't perfect there are let-downs, three of which I can think of. 1.) The Freeside map design/the fast travel system to some places makes me wonder wtf Bethesda was thinking, my greatest peeve was that you fast travel to the Crimson Caravan outside the fucking camp and then have to load to get in..-_-..2.)The quests sometimes depend on skills to advance (speech, barter, medicine etc...) now Im fine with that as long as there are options to complete them by just punching or shooting things without pissing off people in game, unless that's the whole point (ie convincing Cass to sell her business, w/o the skills it cannot be completed) maybe its just me, but either the quests shouldn't be startable without the certain skills or a "just complete the damned quest" option should be included. 3.) Last, some enemies are ridiculously powerful, yeah the Cazadore complaint again but more then just that, the scorpions hunt in packs at times and are too close to starting area to avoid, as well as the Deathclaws...so yeah, the shoe-horning the game into either going with the Powder Gangers or the NCR right at the beginning just to jumpstart the story kinda pissed me off. Unlike Megaton where really the only thing you HAVE to do is either help Moriarty, pay him off, or steal his password to get the info to go to GNR...thats its, one quest or action and you're on your way, you dont have to save the town or nuke it at all if you wish, sure gets you a safehouse but really so what? Its like the game wants you to htfu and go explore where FNV wants to present itself and explain the situation like you're a retard, which frankly what more should you need? You had a package, you got your brains blown out but popped a stimpack and you're aok, go find asshole that shot you..... Overall FNV is fun and I really like it but still even I expected some better fine tuning from Bethesda
Fallout 3 had:Nannernade said:
The Nuka Cola plant,
Red Racer factory,
Dunwich Building,
Yao Guai Tunnels,
Fort Constantine,
Fort Bannister,
Our Lady of Hope Hospital,
Statesman Hotel,
Anchorage Memorial,
Arlington Library,
Vault-Tec HQ,
Little Lamplight,
Bethesda Ruins,
LOB Industries,
Cliffside Caverns,
Hubris Comics,
Roosevelt Academy,
Chryslus Building
Capital Building,
History and Technology Museums,
National Archives
...all of which were huge, multi-levelled areas.
New Vegas only has... (edited)
Four Casinos, Hoover Dam and an empty sewer.
The instant I read this I had to check it out. Twenty reloads and ten pairs of pants later I revise my statement. The mother deathclaw is a cute little bunny rabbit who gives out free hugs and chocolate compared to the legendary. Although now I have a bitchin' new weapon.MiracleOfSound said:
Did you notice it's a tribute to a weapon from Fallout 3? I thought that was pretty neatEHKOS said:
Ok you got me with that those were pretty huge and filled with awesome stuff, just re-read the part about what you said at first I read house not building, I was wrong. =)MiracleOfSound said:
Yeah, I guess I would have liked a few more of those knd of big exciting areas to explore, I spent waaay too much of my life playing Fallout 3 and have high standardsNannernade said:
Before I begin, dammit, Miracle! I was writing up a review for this but you've beaten me to the bug jokes so now I have to go for a whole new tack. Ah well, I'm sure I can find some new way to reference the bu- *POST CORRUPTED*
...Anyway, as I was sayi- *POST CORRUPTED AGAIN* *RAGE QUIT*
OT: A very nice review as usual, Miracle. Very thorough, precise and detailing good and bad points about the game. But safe to say, I am loving it and it's very very quickly becoming my new Viva Pinata. I'm still unpatched due to my net being an App from the Ovi Store that turns my mobile phone into a wireless tether point(Or something) and it would just catch fire if I even dared to think about connecting it to LIVE.
I'm currently on my second play-through and I'm planning to look everywhere this time out so I can find all its hidden goodies as I feel I barely scratched the surface on my first time out. While I had a ton of completed quests on the Pip-Boy, I'm also fairly sure I'd only done about 1/4 of the overall quests at least. A small complaint, apart from the bugs, I have is with the super human sniper that is Boone. I haven't fired my guns in a bloody age since I recruited him. By the tome I've unholstered my weapon, Boone has dropped nearly all of the people that where going to attack me. Example, for some stupid reason I can't fathom out, I was being chased down by about 20 of the White Hand group (I'd been banned from the casino so it's not like it matters I've killed them all. ...Right?) so I went out to get my weapons back, the doorman was snuffed out by someone, got Boone back and lead him into the casino. He cut down at least 14 of the guys. I mean, it's nice to have a sniper who could shoot my eyelashes off at a distance greater then a mile but I kinda miss the hurly-burly of having to shoot people myself.
EDIT: But yet, I still keep him around. ...Eh, he allows me to focus on other things, I guess. Like figuring out where to go next.
...Anyway, as I was sayi- *POST CORRUPTED AGAIN* *RAGE QUIT*
OT: A very nice review as usual, Miracle. Very thorough, precise and detailing good and bad points about the game. But safe to say, I am loving it and it's very very quickly becoming my new Viva Pinata. I'm still unpatched due to my net being an App from the Ovi Store that turns my mobile phone into a wireless tether point(Or something) and it would just catch fire if I even dared to think about connecting it to LIVE.
I'm currently on my second play-through and I'm planning to look everywhere this time out so I can find all its hidden goodies as I feel I barely scratched the surface on my first time out. While I had a ton of completed quests on the Pip-Boy, I'm also fairly sure I'd only done about 1/4 of the overall quests at least. A small complaint, apart from the bugs, I have is with the super human sniper that is Boone. I haven't fired my guns in a bloody age since I recruited him. By the tome I've unholstered my weapon, Boone has dropped nearly all of the people that where going to attack me. Example, for some stupid reason I can't fathom out, I was being chased down by about 20 of the White Hand group (I'd been banned from the casino so it's not like it matters I've killed them all. ...Right?) so I went out to get my weapons back, the doorman was snuffed out by someone, got Boone back and lead him into the casino. He cut down at least 14 of the guys. I mean, it's nice to have a sniper who could shoot my eyelashes off at a distance greater then a mile but I kinda miss the hurly-burly of having to shoot people myself.
EDIT: But yet, I still keep him around. ...Eh, he allows me to focus on other things, I guess. Like figuring out where to go next.