Missouri Man Pleads Guilty To Possession of "Cartoon" Child Porn

[Nazulu]

I will never find a right answer to this. I just don't know at all if it's right or wrong.

Is there any evidence that shows people who have fetishes for children hentai will become worse the more they see? Or is this the righteous opiniated going on a witch hunt?

witchhunt. come on, after so much "games make you violent" comments you are doing exactly the same?
I think the people at the court should be jailed indeterminately for stupidity, because i find it obscene how such a stupid person can be allowed to decide peoples freedom.

I'm not doing exactly the same you assumption making turkey. I'm just wondering if there is any evidence of it causing problems or not, because I've heard a judge say something very similar. It sounds like bull shit to me but I don't want to be one of those who say so called 'facts' when I have none.

I can see how you could relate these accusations, but porn and violence are two different subjects to me.

 

[Epona]

Obscenity charges are absolute bullshit. Let the man fap to whatever drawn shit he wants.

Yeah, who cares if he's a pedophile?

I mean, they shouldn't have just thrown him in prison(that certainly doesn't help anyone), but the man was absolutely in need of psychiatric help if he had child porn (animated or not) on his computer.

Says you, obviously an officer of the thought police.

You know, in most of our history, many of who we call children today were marriage material (after puberty). That means that your ancestors were probably pedophiles.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Obscenity charges are absolute bullshit. Let the man fap to whatever drawn shit he wants.

Yeah, who cares if he's a pedophile?

I mean, they shouldn't have just thrown him in prison(that certainly doesn't help anyone), but the man was absolutely in need of psychiatric help if he had child porn (animated or not) on his computer.

It is not illegal to be a paedophile, it is illegal to abuse minors. In any case, if you spend any time on the internet, you should know by now that not everyone who looks at loli is also an actual paedophile (i.e. interested in real children in any way).

 

[Robot Number V]

Man, a TRIPLE post. That's pretty weird. Please ignore!

 

[lSHaDoW-FoXl]

Oh, those poor animated non - sentient children, being exploited for this man's pleasure must be horrible. You know, it seems like it never ends. I always have to put up with this bull shit about 'freedom' while simultaneously seeing people thrown in jail for the horrible crime of fapping to something that can't think nor feel. Seriously, if anyone considers this 'obscene' then they aren't anything but overgrown children that need to grow up and stop being self - righteous whiney twits. Furthermore, if we're going to start taking our stupid pills and assume that looking at fictional children is 'obscene' then maybe we should ban all porn - given that it's technically voyeurism.

Oh wait a minute, silly me. That law would be fucking stupid and a complete ammendment to 'leaving the government out of the bedroom.' If you give government the power to arrest you for fapping at imaginary children, you also give them the power to arrest people over other bizarre shit. And trust me, I've seen fucking worse than that. But you know what, I think more than anything else this goes to show where the law has its priorities. Legalizing gay marriage? Nah, that's fucking stupid. We can just hold that off for thirty years. Catching corrupt businesses that steal thousands (if not millions) of dollars? Nah, not a problem. Just give them a few months. Man looks at cartoon porn? Well, shit. We need to get to that right away!

This man had been humiliated, so even if he doesn't get thrown in jail for three years he still had to go through a bunch of stupid drama and bull shit. If there truly is any justice, then I think the people responsible for this moronic witch hunt should at the very least have their laptops thoroughly searched for all kinds of porn that they look at. Trust me, I think we'd see some . . . interesting things.

 

[Nazulu]

Considering they're far more likely than not talking about hentai, I really think you're overstepping it by calling the guy a pedophile. Saying it makes you a pedophile is along the lines of equating all games to being willing to commit actual violence.

Or I guess in a more direct sense, if you like bukkake videos it doesn't mean you go around looking for four or more other guys to go jerk off onto some girl.

There's a huge gap between watching porn and having the mindset to actually do what's happening in it.

Now, actual child pornography is indeed wrong because that still involves someone having sex with a child, but we're talking about a simulation that's really far from reality.

If we're comparing things to videogames, I would say that a more apt analogy would be to a mentally ill person playing violent videogames, not your average, mentally healthy gamer. Because if he had child porn on his computer, that means he was sexually attracted to children. This goes beyond a weird fetish, it means that there is something very seriously, objectively wrong with him, and it would be best for everyone, including himself, he is "cured"...I'm not exactly sure how effective therapy is with this stuff, but it's better then just letting him be.

I think we should find out how effective therapy is before dragging these people away. I mean, what the hell can they do to help them? And how will it effect their life including if they can enjoy straight porn as well?

Letting him be would be better than punishing him if he has never done any harm before, don't you think? Or do you think it will get worse?

 

[GTwander]

I can see how you could relate these accusations, but porn and violence are two different subjects to me.

Uh huh... ever heard of 'hardcore' porn? It's fairly popular.

~and there is no evidence, just assumptions posed by focus groups and supposed "Specialists". Opinions hold a lot of weight in court.

 

[Something Amyss]

Why is "cartoon" in quotes? Were they cartoons?

these courts would hate 4chan then

Which is sorta ironic in and of itself.

Yeah, who cares if he's a pedophile?

Is he fiddling with kids?

No?

Is he watching content that involved the abuse or use of minors?

No?

Then really, who should care? There's no evidence he's going to act on these urges even if he's clinically a pedophile (and there's a good chance he isn't).

 

[Robot Number V]

Sorry, wrong thread. I guess the Escapist is just being weird today.

(Mods...Please be gentle.)

 

[Robot Number V]

*snip*

Just read the rest of the thread. I've responded to this exact argument 5 times. And counting.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

Total bullshit. Let him fap to whatever cartoons he wants. If he didn't have any actual child porn, forget it. He might need psychiatric help but he shouldn't be sentenced to prison time.

 

[Something Amyss]

I'm not doing exactly the same you assumption making turkey. I'm just wondering if there is any evidence of it causing problems or not, because I've heard a judge say something very similar.

There's no actual correlation that's been documented nor is there any demonstrated tendency towards "progression."

 

[Something Amyss]

*snip*

Just read the rest of the thread. I've responded to this exact argument 5 times. And counting.

It was rhetorical. It seems this needs to be repeated for your benefit.

 

[Nazulu]

I can see how you could relate these accusations, but porn and violence are two different subjects to me.

Uh huh... ever heard of 'hardcore' porn? It's fairly popular.

~and there is no evidence, just assumptions posed by focus groups and supposed "Specialists". Opinions hold a lot of weight in court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_pornography - Not the same as shooting and stabbing people.

As for the lack of evidence, are fucking kidding me? Are people being thrown in jail with no evidence of any harm? That's more obscene than 'obscenity'.

 

[Epona]

Says you, obviously an officer of the thought police.

I'll just tell you what I told everyone else.

Because if he had child porn on his computer, that means he was sexually attracted to children. This goes beyond a weird fetish, it means that there is something very seriously, objectively wrong with him, and it would be best for everyone, including himself, he is "cured"...I'm not exactly sure how effective therapy is with this stuff, but it's better then just letting him be.

Speaking of letting people be, can people please stop quoting me? Just read the rest of the thread, my response now appears in like, 4 different places.

I have a gif of Mario fucking Peach and every other frame he gets a 1UP. Does that make me a rapist?

Are the rules are different where animated child porn is concerned.

I can see how you could relate these accusations, but porn and violence are two different subjects to me.

Uh huh... ever heard of 'hardcore' porn? It's fairly popular.

~and there is no evidence, just assumptions posed by focus groups and supposed "Specialists". Opinions hold a lot of weight in court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_pornography - Not the same as shooting and stabbing people.

As for the lack of evidence, are fucking kidding me? Are people being thrown in jail with no evidence of any harm? That's more obscene than 'obscenity'.

Yes, thought crimes.

 

[GTwander]

I can see how you could relate these accusations, but porn and violence are two different subjects to me.

Uh huh... ever heard of 'hardcore' porn? It's fairly popular.

~and there is no evidence, just assumptions posed by focus groups and supposed "Specialists". Opinions hold a lot of weight in court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_pornography - Not the same as shooting and stabbing people.

Slapping, hair-pulling and full-force pounding is essentially violence.
...but I'm getting way OT here. Just wanted to make a point that in many cases, sex = violence.

 

[5ilver]

Man, american laws are so strange sometimes. I honestly can't think of any reason for them to put him in jail over this. Not one.

 

[Robot Number V]

*snip*

Just read the rest of the thread. I've responded to this exact argument 5 times. And counting.

It was rhetorical. It seems this needs to be repeated for your benefit.

OK then...My definition of a pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to children. People who have child porn (animated or otherwise) fall into that category, as far as I'm concerned.

Now, instead of being vague and condescending, how about you tell me YOUR definition of a pedophile, (something we seem to disagree on) and then we can try to make this discussion actually WORTH something?

 

[Something Amyss]

Yeah, that's not what I'm saying. As far as I'm concerned, if he's sexually attracted to children, he's a pedophile.

And as far as fundies are concerned, you're a monster if you shoot people in the game. It's a fair parallel.

Because if he had child porn on his computer, that means he was sexually attracted to children.

He had cartoons on his computer.

This goes beyond a weird fetish, it means that there is something very seriously, objectively wrong with him, and it would be best for everyone, including himself, he is "cured"...I'm not exactly sure how effective therapy is with this stuff, but it's better then just letting him be.

Assuming he even is a pedophile, which there's no evidence beyond your kneejerk reaction that he fits the bill, "therapy" is actually more harmful than beneficial. More and more evidence has come out that pedophilia is a wired sexuality element like heterosexuality or homosexuality. the major difference here is that acting on it should be illegal, because any viable "lover" isn't uyet ready to understand intellectually or emotionally.

But attempts to "cure" him would be more harmful. It's just more gun-jumping on your end, because ponies.

I just think it's a bad idea to let ANY mentally unstable people go without medical assistance. And I include people who are sexually attracted to children in that category.

Are you a doctor? Have you actually interviewed him? Upon what grounds did you make this diagnosis?

 

[Epona]

Man, american laws are so strange sometimes. I honestly can't think of any reason for them to put him in jail over this. Not one.

People get hysterical over sex and children. Combine the two and we have the thought police, something everyone should protest.