In that hypothetical society, yes, there probably wouldn't be a rape culture.Yan007 said:Rape culture: The idea that we live in a rape culture is ridiculous. In a society where male students will be expelled immediately and found guilty until proven innocent, there is no such thing as a rape culture.
WHAT THE HELL?! I called you trans once (assuming that you were) and be blew a freaking gasket saying that I was insulting you! Now you?re saying that you are? What happened? Did you decide to get a sex change in the past few weeks?KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:You know what? I'm transgender, want me to call you normal?
Errr... You are aware that the problem in the post you linked was the "transvestite" part, right? It's not the same thing as "transgender".Steve Waltz said:WHAT THE HELL?! I called you trans once (assuming that you were) and be blew a freaking gasket saying that I was insulting you! Now you?re saying that you are? What happened? Did you decide to get a sex change in the past few weeks?KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:You know what? I'm transgender, want me to call you normal?
OH WOW! Look at that! I went back to go and find the evidence and you edited the post: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.874831-Ace-Ventura-was-transphobic-Really?page=5#21986995
Well I just think it deflects and excuses like "oh those poor people are afreaid of homosexuals".thaluikhain said:Phobia has that meaning, yes, but it's not the only meaning it has. Then there are people that argue that hatred is based on fear anyway.loa said:___phobic
Newsflash, "phobia" means "fear of" which is not in fact equal to "hatred for" and no, the term sounding super catchy doesn't change that. I am an arachnophobe, I freeze up if I see a big spider crawling out of my bedsheets. That doesn't mean I hate spiders, I actually find them interesting to look at... from afar.
No, I wasn?t. So a transvestite is a person that just puts on the clothes, and a transgender person is someone that gets an operation?GabeZhul said:Errr... You are aware that the problem in the post you linked was the "transvestite" part, right? It's not the same thing as "transgender".Steve Waltz said:WHAT THE HELL?! I called you trans once (assuming that you were) and be blew a freaking gasket saying that I was insulting you! Now you?re saying that you are? What happened? Did you decide to get a sex change in the past few weeks?KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:You know what? I'm transgender, want me to call you normal?
OH WOW! Look at that! I went back to go and find the evidence and you edited the post: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.874831-Ace-Ventura-was-transphobic-Really?page=5#21986995
Transvestite literally means "cross-dresser". It has nothing to do with gender-identity.
Heh, that's a good one, yeah.Steve Waltz said:For me it?s the word ?digress.? I hate when people say ?But I digress,? when they weren?t actually digressing.
Ah, fair enough, I hadn't thought of that. Normally I see objections like that as an attempt to pretend the issue somehow doesn't exist.loa said:Well I just think it deflects and excuses like "oh those poor people are afreaid of homosexuals".thaluikhain said:Phobia has that meaning, yes, but it's not the only meaning it has. Then there are people that argue that hatred is based on fear anyway.loa said:___phobic
Newsflash, "phobia" means "fear of" which is not in fact equal to "hatred for" and no, the term sounding super catchy doesn't change that. I am an arachnophobe, I freeze up if I see a big spider crawling out of my bedsheets. That doesn't mean I hate spiders, I actually find them interesting to look at... from afar.
No, no that's not what's going on. Maybe in some fringe groups, sure, but let's not make that the focus?
We don't refer to nazis in their context as "semitephobes" either you know.
Anti-semitism is a thing and it pretty accurately describes itself.
Of course anti-homosexual doesn't sound as neat as "homophobic" with all its cute little o-s that people love saying.
Anyway that's why I think this term catching on is more like a fashion statement than accurately describing what's going on which is a bit disturbing, given the context.
More or less, though one can be transgender even without surgery, it's enough that they identify as the other gender (though I am sure that scientifically it requires a bunch of other confirmations, like brain-structure/chemistry and psychological cues).Steve Waltz said:No, I wasn?t. So a transvestite is a person that just puts on the clothes, and a transgender person is someone that gets an operation?GabeZhul said:Errr... You are aware that the problem in the post you linked was the "transvestite" part, right? It's not the same thing as "transgender".
Transvestite literally means "cross-dresser". It has nothing to do with gender-identity.
LeathermanKick25 said:I really don't care about this whole gender identity nonsense [...] Sexuality is more than simple enough to get the point across on this forum. I'm straight, people understand what that means.
I think you've got the wrong idea: this thread is about misuses we want people to stop using. We're not meant to encourage others to misuse terms.CpT_x_Killsteal said:"Herteronormative". You mean straight you pompous ****.
Not sure what the right GIF image to post here would be, but yeah, what Silvanus said.Silvanus said:I think you've got the wrong idea: this thread is about misuses we want people to stop using. We're not meant to encourage others to misuse terms.
Wanting people to misuse terms is literally the opposite of what this thread is about.
Well if Heteronormative means something else then I'm sorry, cause that's the only thing I've ever seen people use it for. It just seems like an elongated version of "straight" in every context I've seen it used. If you'd like to provide another, go ahead.thaluikhain said:Er, hetero means straight, the normative part change things somewhat.CpT_x_Killsteal said:"Herteronormative". You mean straight you pompous ****.
So? Why does that make it a bad word? Why not replace "straight" with "not LGB" by the same logic?CpT_x_Killsteal said:"cisgender", otherwise known as "not transgender".
True, I kind of just ranted about words I'm sick of hearing on the internet. My bad.Silvanus said:I think you've got the wrong idea: this thread is about misuses we want people to stop using. We're not meant to encourage others to misuse terms.CpT_x_Killsteal said:"Herteronormative". You mean straight you pompous ****.
Wanting people to misuse terms is literally the opposite of what this thread is about.
Well, wiki has this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeteronormativityCpT_x_Killsteal said:Well if Heteronormative means something else then I'm sorry, cause that's the only thing I've ever seen people use it for. It just seems like an elongated version of "straight" in every context I've seen it used. If you'd like to provide another, go ahead.
Well, being straight is the default. Being able-bodied is the default. I don't see how having words for what most people is a problem, otherwise we'd have to say "like most people" sexual/bodied or something.CpT_x_Killsteal said:Not, for lack of better phrasing, "being trans" is the default. If we came up with new words for each and every default of not being something it'd be a mess.
As does the expression "just desserts." It's spelled "just deserts."IOwnTheSpire said:...'just desserts' and it needs to stop.
A Theist believes in God or gods, an Atheist disbelieves in God or gods, and an Agnostic believes there is no evidence to support either theism or atheism.Major_Tom said:"Agnostic". No, it doesn't mean a fence-sitter between an atheist and a theist. Stop saying "I don't believe in god, but I'm not an atheist", that doesn't make you agnostic, it makes you a moron.
The question is not "does god exist" it's "do YOU believe in god" and there are only two possible answers. Agnostics say it is not possible to know whether god exists or not, but you can still believe or not believe in one. Agnostic and atheist/theist are not mutually exclusive terms.inmunitas said:A Theist believes in God or gods, an Atheist disbelieves in God or gods, and an Agnostic believes there is no evidence to support either theism or atheism.Major_Tom said:"Agnostic". No, it doesn't mean a fence-sitter between an atheist and a theist. Stop saying "I don't believe in god, but I'm not an atheist", that doesn't make you agnostic, it makes you a moron.