Miyamoto: I Wish I Made Angry Birds

ThePenguinKnight

New member
Mar 30, 2012
893
0
0
Monsterfurby said:
Yes, Angry Birds was such an original idea. It is only the 83879734897th entry to a genre that had been around for years over at Newgrounds. Its creators can be credited with only two things: design and marketing.

In general, the modus operandi of the commercial casual indie scene seems to become "find original idea in a flash game, copy and slightly modify it, then sell it before the poor sod who came up with it does". And Miyamoto falls for it. Yeesh.
Pretty much this ^^^^
 

floppylobster

New member
Oct 22, 2008
1,528
0
0
ablac said:
floppylobster said:
ablac said:
Monsterfurby said:
Yes, Angry Birds was such an original idea. It is only the 83879734897th entry to a genre that had been around for years over at Newgrounds. Its creators can be credited with only two things: design and marketing.

In general, the modus operandi of the commercial casual indie scene seems to become "find original idea in a flash game, copy and slightly modify it, then sell it before the poor sod who came up with it does". And Miyamoto falls for it. Yeesh.
Or maybe he knows more about the industry than you do having played a role in its creation. Those flash games on newgrounds are merely copies of other flash games or even earlier than that. Originality is a fallacy. Someone has come up with near enough every simple core mechanic. You merely need to dig deep enough to find what someone has 'ripped off'.
But someone did originally come up with something right? No matter how far back you suggest it may lie. So originality is not a fallacy. Unless you're saying no one has ever come up with anything and everybody has been ripping off others since before the dawn of time.
I said it wrong but I meant that attacking something for unoriganality is wrong as someone has come up with something and what you may think is origanal could be a potential rip off of another game you havent heard of. I heard of angry birds long before crush the castle so how can we prove Rovio ripped off crush the castle. They did some new stuff with it and they did it best. Crush the castle is supposedly a rip off of another game anyway so I think people should commend what is good and if that is origanal great. Being unoriginal is not a sin in itself. Its not a carbon copy it just shares a basic mechanic. Its like saying all FPS's are doom clones or that every survival horror game is a rip off of pac man. They share similar traits but do enough different, be it story, gameplay or whatever, to make themselves unique. Angry birds is a damn simple game as is crush the castle. Its is wrong to say that nothing can be made that is like crush the castle. people dont like it because it is 'casual' and successful.
Well you're right there. Even most of Shakespeare's plays were based off other works. It's all the presentation.

And you have to give credit to the Angry Birds team for creating a game that has such wide appeal. It seems like a simple thing to do - like the pop songs or popular movies we all like to criticize. But in fact it's very difficult and not enough people give credit and respect to those who manage it. If it were that easy, then any one of us would have gone and done by now. But we haven't. There are many subtleties in creating something that has mass appeal that only someone like Miyamoto, (somewhat a master at him himself), can really appreciate.
 

SextusMaximus

Nightingale Assassin
May 20, 2009
3,508
0
0
Except the people who invented angry birds didn't invent it. It's a cheap rip off of a much better series of free flash games on the internet. KONGREGATE / NEWGROUNDS IT PEOPLE.
 

InsomniJack

New member
Dec 4, 2009
335
0
0
"I have very much enjoyed Angry Birds, especially the way in which it combines traditional and new game elements in exciting ways," Miaymoto said. "Angry Birds is a very simple idea but it's one of those games that I immediately appreciated when I first started playing, before wishing that I had been the one to come up with the idea first."

"I mean, obviously I want to be the one creating the most convincing, surprising game ideas," he continued.
Yeah, and I wish I wrote "Kashmir" first.

I don't see a point in someone as high up as Miyamoto telling the press that he wished he had come up with any idea, let alone another multi-million dollar franchise. If it's to subtly whine about it to the audience, then mission accomplished, I suppose.

I guess I expected him to be just a tad smarter than this.
 

snave

New member
Nov 10, 2009
390
0
0
The biggest gripe I have with the controls is that the camera automatically pulls in too close on the left, so you think you can start playing, but the second you pull back, you hit the edge of the screen and lose a bird. Really frustrating.

To Rovio's credit, the Chrome browser remake as well as the Space-themed new installment have righted this and the camera will happily zoom out a touch more, or scroll further left for your convenience.

I'm not sure where they'll go from here though. With gravity wells now introduced, they've utilised the full two dimensions of a flat screen.

Nice to see Miyamoto praising the gameplay. Game complexity should be simple on the surface and deep underneath, something this game excels at.
 

RubyT

New member
Sep 3, 2009
372
0
0
Strain42 said:
In Angry Bird's case it doesn't matter who did it first, it's a matter of who did it best and/or loudest.
That's actually the case in just about everything.

Facebook wasn't new, profile sites were around way before, but somehow - and I'm not sure anybody really knows how - Facebook became THE profile site.

A little advertising here, some luck there and the chaotic power of social networks to seed the hype and we've gotten ourselves objectively hard to explain hits and misses.

The Hunger Games. Really, you can point its fans to any number of superior sci-fi books/movies/tv-shows with the same plot(s) but they will have never heard about them.
 

JdaS

New member
Oct 16, 2009
712
0
0
Made a couple of fellow Finns very. Very. Rich men. The marketing has gone way too far though. Here in Finland we already have shitty tasting Angry Birds soda...

I like the game. But every time I have to listen to a customer ask for "Angry Birds *insert whatever item here* I die a little inside.