And what about those of us who want nothing to do with CoD? Or who like the idea of a survival horror zombie MMO?coldfrog said:
Modern MMOs "Barely Even Games," Says Former Guild Wars Dev
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Someone sit this guy down and show him Planetside...
Boom, MMOFPS that relies on skill over stats.
(Of course stats such as 1vs10 means no amount of skill will have you survive... but how many can you kill before they get you!)
Boom, MMOFPS that relies on skill over stats.
(Of course stats such as 1vs10 means no amount of skill will have you survive... but how many can you kill before they get you!)
That sounds awfully similar to Tabula Rasa. MMOFPS isn't a new idea, and definitely isn't inherently superior to the typical MMORPG, so good luck to him. Following such recent games like APB and Tabula Rasa in a niche occupied by non-MMO titans like Left 4 Dead? He'll need all the luck he can get.
No such thing for MMOs. The only servers you get are the servers the developers provide and chances are they are all in the same data center. In Zimbabwe. Or Germany.Korten12 said:
While i like the idea of a zombie mmo. It does seems to be more like an openworld L4D so lets hope we get more info soon. Saying that i would have loved a zombie mod for APB hehe.
Anyway even shooters have stats. Whats the differance between a pistol and a shotgun. Stats.
Anyway even shooters have stats. Whats the differance between a pistol and a shotgun. Stats.
Not really. The numbers in a pen and paper are just a framework to allow for some consistency. The real game is strategy and storytelling, something thats unfeasible to do in MMORPGGERS unless you open the floor to user content (ie: totally untenable unless you personally enjoy a Quest Log that reads "A) Go to Cocksville and defeat the Cockmaster. B) Penistopia is under attack! Drive back the monthly angry monster!")coldfrog said:
but i like crunching numbers, i play with a calculator and pad of paper on hand!
though if they can make it work a persistant world with the atmosphere and action of L4D would be pretty awesome.
though if they can make it work a persistant world with the atmosphere and action of L4D would be pretty awesome.
I actually don't care about CoD either, I just think that the fact that there's now a game where you kill Zombie Nazis is pretty much it. They've covered both over-used standard cannon fodder. I guess a zombie MMO would be something new... I'm just annoyed at how much zombies are in everything anymore.Zachary Amaranth said:
Um... no shit?
As I said for Guild Wars a while ago, "one click and the game plays itself."
WHY THE HELL IS IT TAKING THIS LONG TO MAKE ACTION GAMEPLAY BASED MMOS? I mean, shit, didn't you people even notice how most single player RPGs like Oblivion use action oriented gameplay styles, and that it's usually better than the click interface? Or were you too busy ripping off Everquest?
As I said for Guild Wars a while ago, "one click and the game plays itself."
WHY THE HELL IS IT TAKING THIS LONG TO MAKE ACTION GAMEPLAY BASED MMOS? I mean, shit, didn't you people even notice how most single player RPGs like Oblivion use action oriented gameplay styles, and that it's usually better than the click interface? Or were you too busy ripping off Everquest?
I think that it is something that is long overdue. MMOs have remained rather stagnate since the turn of the century. Its not too much to ask for MMOs to start showing traits popularized more than 5 years ago in console titles.
In fact we are starting to see the first glimmers in a new direction. Look at a game like Demons souls which is a psuedo MMO in its online mode. Look at the MMO that was wrapped around this weeks ZP in Vindictus. There was also a one word titled MMO that the name eludes me at the moment, that had things like impact sectors in mobs, so that where you hit on a mob could be considered relevant.
MMOs from what ive seen have always lagged behind standard console gaming conventions. But you do get the sense that change is coming to MMOs and im starting to think we are on the verge of an MMORPG division between more action oriented and more story driven.
In fact we are starting to see the first glimmers in a new direction. Look at a game like Demons souls which is a psuedo MMO in its online mode. Look at the MMO that was wrapped around this weeks ZP in Vindictus. There was also a one word titled MMO that the name eludes me at the moment, that had things like impact sectors in mobs, so that where you hit on a mob could be considered relevant.
MMOs from what ive seen have always lagged behind standard console gaming conventions. But you do get the sense that change is coming to MMOs and im starting to think we are on the verge of an MMORPG division between more action oriented and more story driven.
While that is true, GW was still all numbers. There was no "medium damage", "light armor" or "long recharge." It was all in numbers and percentages. What separates it from other RPG's I have played is that the system was all numbers, but still very easy to comprehend, and quite simplistic.Korten12 said:
Bottom line: Some like "spreadsheet games", some like reflex excercises, and some (such as myself) like both. Ranting because you don't like one of them is pointless.
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So yeah, basically this.Wolfram01 said: