Modern Warfare 2 boycott huge Success

[Noname55]

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Aaah, gotta love boycotters...

Wow, less than a seventeenth are hypocrites, this obviously carries over to the entire group.

 

[pwnzerstick]

The whole boycott thing has realy alienated me from PC gaming, I used to be a very devout PC gamer, but because there are all these people now who get upset over missing 1 piece of content it seems hard to stay with them. Then what angers me even more is when they feel that they can speak for all PC gamers.

 

[Bat Vader]

I see no flaming in here, therefore that point has been rendered false.

No it hasn't. Until this thread is locked or no one posts on it again the point still stand that it can encourage flaming by making poking fun at a specific group.

Whether they bought bought Modern Warfare 2 or not it irrelevant. So what if people bought Modern Warfare 2. That was their choice and they shouldn't be looked down upon by people who boycotted or don't support Infinity Ward or Activision.

PC gamers and Console gamers are in the end all gamers. Whether or not anyone wants to accept it or deny it is their choice.

So because we are part of the same overarching group we need to support everything that group does? That's some faulty logic right there. Hey, we're all people, I suppose I should support the Janjaweed.

I never said you specifically were a part of the boycott. What I am saying is that it is childish and immature to poke fun and insult people for buying a game.

Just because some people do not like it doesn't make it right that they can insult people who do like it.

 

[pwnzerstick]

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Aaah, gotta love boycotters...

Wow, less than a seventeenth are hypocrites, this obviously carries over to the entire group.

Wow. Ya I bet soon with the hakers doing dedicated servers theres going to be a Modern Warfare 2 Boycott Modern Warfare 2 Server.

 

[Noname55]

I see no flaming in here, therefore that point has been rendered false.

No it hasn't. Until this thread is locked or no one posts on it again the point still stand that it can encourage flaming by making poking fun at a specific group.

Whether they bought bought Modern Warfare 2 or not it irrelevant. So what if people bought Modern Warfare 2. That was their choice and they shouldn't be looked down upon by people who boycotted or don't support Infinity Ward or Activision.

PC gamers and Console gamers are in the end all gamers. Whether or not anyone wants to accept it or deny it is their choice.

So because we are part of the same overarching group we need to support everything that group does? That's some faulty logic right there. Hey, we're all people, I suppose I should support the Janjaweed.

I never said you specifically were a part of the boycott. What I am saying is that it is childish and immature to poke fun and insult people for buying a game.

Just because some people do not like it doesn't make it right that they can insult people who do like it.

So I can't say a decision is dumb, what, are you afraid I'll hurt someone's feelings?

 

[Booze Zombie]

Congratulations, you have been sarcastic on the Internet.

Original.

 

[SilentHunter7]

Considering half of the PC gamers are getting banned with no refund for importing their games, I think they'd wish they boycotted it.

 

[Bat Vader]

I see no flaming in here, therefore that point has been rendered false.

No it hasn't. Until this thread is locked or no one posts on it again the point still stand that it can encourage flaming by making poking fun at a specific group.

Whether they bought bought Modern Warfare 2 or not it irrelevant. So what if people bought Modern Warfare 2. That was their choice and they shouldn't be looked down upon by people who boycotted or don't support Infinity Ward or Activision.

PC gamers and Console gamers are in the end all gamers. Whether or not anyone wants to accept it or deny it is their choice.

So because we are part of the same overarching group we need to support everything that group does? That's some faulty logic right there. Hey, we're all people, I suppose I should support the Janjaweed.

I never said you specifically were a part of the boycott. What I am saying is that it is childish and immature to poke fun and insult people for buying a game.

Just because some people do not like it doesn't make it right that they can insult people who do like it.

So I can't say a decision is dumb, what, are you afraid I'll hurt someone's feelings?

By no means do I care if anyones feelings are hurt or not hurt. You know, I don't even care to speak anymore about this. It is obvious we are not going to get anywhere with each other over this and continuing on would be pointless and foolish.

So therefore, I agree to disagree. Besides, it is silly to get mad over a game.

 

[Noname55]

I see no flaming in here, therefore that point has been rendered false.

No it hasn't. Until this thread is locked or no one posts on it again the point still stand that it can encourage flaming by making poking fun at a specific group.

Whether they bought bought Modern Warfare 2 or not it irrelevant. So what if people bought Modern Warfare 2. That was their choice and they shouldn't be looked down upon by people who boycotted or don't support Infinity Ward or Activision.

PC gamers and Console gamers are in the end all gamers. Whether or not anyone wants to accept it or deny it is their choice.

So because we are part of the same overarching group we need to support everything that group does? That's some faulty logic right there. Hey, we're all people, I suppose I should support the Janjaweed.

I never said you specifically were a part of the boycott. What I am saying is that it is childish and immature to poke fun and insult people for buying a game.

Just because some people do not like it doesn't make it right that they can insult people who do like it.

So I can't say a decision is dumb, what, are you afraid I'll hurt someone's feelings?

By no means do I care if anyones feelings are hurt or not hurt. You know, I don't even care to speak anymore about this. It is obvious we are not going to get anywhere with each other over this and continuing on would be pointless and foolish.

So therefore, I agree to disagree. Besides, it is silly to get mad over a game.

Just remember, you're the one who made an issue of it.

 

[oliveira8]

*snip*

They are a multi-international company runned by French people.
The people they cannot buy/merge with is EA(And Ubisoft!) who is Activision-Blizzard main competitor. And inside the market theres still plenty of niche markets.
As long a company doesn't abuse his dominion they can keep rolling.
The community law has holes in which clever business men can go around, and Activision isn't being runned by idiots, they know how make business. They just don't know how to make games.

And they can grow past videogames like a digital distribuition system of their own, their own console, PC hardware, etc etc...The possibilities are endless with enough money and the right timing.

they are merely catering to their demographic. activision is wise to stay with casual gaming. if it gets out of video gaming, its cash cow will not help it there and it will falter, and die. just because they cater the demographic to the point they get a lot of cash doesn't mean they dominate the market or could control it, that means they only dominate the technique of advertisement and hype. to dominate the market or even influence it will require them to put out a lot more games than EA and ubisoft combined. this, however, is impossible as EA floods the market with games every year and with ubisoft they blow activision out of the water with their sheer size, and quantity produced. They can't exactly influence the market when their voice is drowned out by the louder voices like ubisoft, and EA can they? no, i'll say not.

Execpt that nor Ubisoft or EA can produce a game that makes 550 million US dollars in 7 days.(or something)
Nor does Ubisoft or EA have a powerhouse of a MMO printing money for them. EA just sacked plenty of departments some days ago. And they presented loses over 1 billion US dollars last March. EA isn't what was 5 years ago. Their doing the same game every year business plan no longer works that well for them. And their last attempts of producing something new and fresh were disapointing.(Dead Space, Mirror Edge and Brutal Legend)

And Ubisoft has no real flagship product(maybe PoP and Tom Clancy games..but their last attemps weren't that great) and their revenue for last year doesn't even come close to EA and Activision.

Actually you have to combine both Ubisoft and EA Revenue to match Activision-Blizzard reveneu of last year.

Activision-Blizzard is currently the biggest dog on the market, if they keep the pace, the rest will have to copy their marketing strategies or outdue them. Don't look suprised when video game prices start rising left and right. Activision-Blizzard proved they can rise the prices and people will buy and probably give more with MW2. Now it's a matter of time and use it on the next AAA product. Rinse and repeat and make the market used to the idea.

The others will follow or use similar business plan so they won't fall behind. Which they already did.

(Activision alone made more money than Ubisoft last year.)

 

[Bat Vader]

I see no flaming in here, therefore that point has been rendered false.

No it hasn't. Until this thread is locked or no one posts on it again the point still stand that it can encourage flaming by making poking fun at a specific group.

Whether they bought bought Modern Warfare 2 or not it irrelevant. So what if people bought Modern Warfare 2. That was their choice and they shouldn't be looked down upon by people who boycotted or don't support Infinity Ward or Activision.

PC gamers and Console gamers are in the end all gamers. Whether or not anyone wants to accept it or deny it is their choice.

So because we are part of the same overarching group we need to support everything that group does? That's some faulty logic right there. Hey, we're all people, I suppose I should support the Janjaweed.

I never said you specifically were a part of the boycott. What I am saying is that it is childish and immature to poke fun and insult people for buying a game.

Just because some people do not like it doesn't make it right that they can insult people who do like it.

So I can't say a decision is dumb, what, are you afraid I'll hurt someone's feelings?

By no means do I care if anyones feelings are hurt or not hurt. You know, I don't even care to speak anymore about this. It is obvious we are not going to get anywhere with each other over this and continuing on would be pointless and foolish.

So therefore, I agree to disagree. Besides, it is silly to get mad over a game.

Just remember, you're the one who made an issue of it.

Was it really necessary to say something back when I clearly wanted to end the conversation?

 

[JWAN]

Don't forget that German violent game burning thing.

lol ^

that children, is why history is important.

 

[gamefreakbsp]

Infinity Ward has got to be running some kind of socialogical experiment, and when its over they will say, "Just kidding! Here are your dedicated servers. Now stop following me home please."

 

[oliveira8]

*snip*

But it's the holidays season that matters! It's the October-March period that matters and christmas period the critical time. Miss that and you might as well missed the whole damn year.

Look how many games were pushed down the line so they wouldn't had to compete on a Christmas date with MW2. They all pushed back cause they would lose more money by releasing during that time.

And I already told you, the community laws(Or antitrust laws) have holes that can be explored/avoided by clever people. EA had idiots running the company when they fucked up the Madden case.

I doubt they would make 100 us dollars a regular price for a game, but one thing pulls the other. Prices can be raised and they want to raise the prices even more, And they can and community laws can't deny them if they play it right.

The ball is in their side now, as they are the top dogs right now. They going to experience with prices and online subscriptions in the next years. If they manage to pull it off(Which I fear they will cause the average consumer is an ass.) other companies will adopt new business strategies.

Simple market evolution.

Company A does Y.
Company B does X which feels awfully lot like Y.
Company C does what company B and A do but on a smaller scale.
And then the cicle will repeat itself when X and Y have been accepted.
Company A does Y.0.
Company B does X.0 etc etc
....

 

[oliveira8]

price escalation of copycats who think high prices will make people flock to them that completely disregards the supply and demand system isn't market evolution. activision pulled a money making stunt to make extra cash this holiday season. they dont want to dominate the market, they just want cash, they can care less about controlling the market as they know not to bite the hand that feeds them.

Did you fail to notice that Kotcik wants to raise the prices even more or believes that prices can go more higher? Add MMO subscription plans to online shooters? Making working in the video game industry the equivalent of living in a Gulag?(this one is half true)

And what company wouldn't want to be the biggest dog in the market. If they want money they have to be number 1.

They at the top of the food chain they making more money than any other company. Simple logic. You can't make piles and piles and piles and piles of money if you aren't the best. You can only do piles of money in second and third place.


This picture is right when it says it prints money.

Of course it prints money! They number one and they have no real competition in the handheld market. They can do whatever they want really. And they did when Nintendo released a new version of DS and it still sold like stupid. And guess what? They going to release the same model with a bigger screen...and they going to make more money out of that.

The average consumer has no teeths no bite, so neither Nintendo or Activision-Blizzard are worried that are going to get some epic backlash.

Unless they royally fuck up.

 

[squid5580]

Nicely done.

But then again, its to be expected; boycotts-if nothing- make people do the opposite of what the boycotters want.

Of course. Boycotters are some of the best advertising out there. The louder they get the more they advertise the product they are boycotting. Good job guys. Well done, seriously, well done. You made Activision millions in sales and saved them millions in ads. And we should see that trickle down effect in thier next game.

Bobby you evil genius.

 

[ShadowSilencer]

Both sides of this argument are wrong. I love PC and Console gaming. The problem is that its obvious that these kind of games are not as big on PC and that eventually will be even less. This isn't an excuse for Infinity Ward to screw over PC users, because they decided to release the game on PC, but it seems like PC users should be glad IW even released the game for them. Plus boycotting a game, even if it just for yourself, seems counter productive because if the lack of sales only comes from one operator, they might not bother making it for that operator, and for all of those people who have said and will say that, that was the point of this boycott needs imagine that every new Call of Duty game that is ever released ignores PC completely because it isn't profitable. That would suck, wouldn't it?