Modern Warfare 3 Campaign Feels Longer Than MW2, Says Dev

[Vrach]

Uh oh. MW3 dev says the campaign feels longer than MW2. Not is longer than MW2. Bad choice of words or telling slip? Only time will tell I suppose.

First thought as I saw the article title as well. Let's hope it's just a bad choice of words, they should have enough brains to try and avoid the same length again, considering they're the running joke of the industry for MW2's campaign length.

Too true. The Spec Ops mode added greatly to the play-ability of 2 though, but they've mucked about with Spec Ops as well. From what I can gather it's been crossbred with a bog standard horde mode, which in my eyes replaces the satisfaction of completing clear cut and defined objectives with the rather thankless task of 'just stay alive, you muppet'.

Yeah agreed, the spec ops pulled out MW2 just fine imo, in fact, considering it was one of the first games to start bringing the co-op back to PC (something that's seemingly coming full scale with a lot of games now, /cheer), I was more than happy with it and further disappointed to see it missing from Black Ops. And yeah, the new horde mode in MW3... well, might be some fun, but as you said, I prefer having defined objectives to work towards, it works that much better as a teamwork incentive.

PS
Just me or anyone else wondering why no one's making a war game with a L4D-esque mode? I don't mean literally, but if you imagine a campaign of a squad working through a L4D-like map, with some L4D-like AI (I mean the "director", not the zombies), it seems like an idea with quite a bit of potential. Actually, considering the fast approaching notion of MMOFPS, I think it'd make a great way to do instances/raids.

 

[CannibalCorpses]

Uh oh. MW3 dev says the campaign feels longer than MW2. Not is longer than MW2. Bad choice of words or telling slip? Only time will tell I suppose.

First thought as I saw the article title as well. Let's hope it's just a bad choice of words, they should have enough brains to try and avoid the same length again, considering they're the running joke of the industry for MW2's campaign length.

Why? What was wrong with MW2s campaign length? If it manages to beat Medal of Honour with it's whopping 5 hours of gameplay then it's not exactly the industry joke

 

[Vrach]

Uh oh. MW3 dev says the campaign feels longer than MW2. Not is longer than MW2. Bad choice of words or telling slip? Only time will tell I suppose.

First thought as I saw the article title as well. Let's hope it's just a bad choice of words, they should have enough brains to try and avoid the same length again, considering they're the running joke of the industry for MW2's campaign length.

Why? What was wrong with MW2s campaign length? If it manages to beat Medal of Honour with it's whopping 5 hours of gameplay then it's not exactly the industry joke

It's the industry's running joke as a poster child for "games are getting too short". Medal of Honor sucked arse and everyone with any sense in them saw it's going to, it's just an incomparable game and the fact EA's marketing department was paid to really, really try to paint a different picture doesn't make the slightest impact on it, considering, again, everyone saw that train flying off the tracks the moment they heard it.

 

[CannibalCorpses]

Any FPS that takes more than a day on the hardest setting to finish is hardly a running joke to my eyes. I'd put Medal of Honour, Crysis 2 and Singularity before MW2 any day of the week but thats just me

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

Uh oh. MW3 dev says the campaign feels longer than MW2. Not is longer than MW2. Bad choice of words or telling slip? Only time will tell I suppose.

Anyway, that's a terrible choice of words. If it ISN'T longer, then simply FEELING longer means its poorly paced, or boring.

Well he can't say it is longer, because there's always going to be someone that comes along and blitzes it in a 4 hour sitting and then whines to some news site, saying "MW3 isn't longer!! They told us it would be!!". The dev is probably just choosing his words carefully.

Except speed-runners aren't taken into account when determining how big a campaign is. Activision will have had a horde of beta-testers playing through the game and they'll know the average length of a play-through. Plus they'll know exactly how big the game is (and how much ground the player has to cover) in scale miles, which again can be compared to the scale milage in MW2 to give a definitive, yes it is/no it isn't, answer.

 

[Sixties Spidey]

Black Ops felt longer than MW2 too, but that doesn't mean it wasn't boring as all fuck.

 

[GameMaNiAC]

Modern Warfare series doesn't really have an amazing story, but it is executed very well and it does what it's trying to do. I'm excited due to the fact that I've grown quite attached to the characters and would very much like to see how the hunt for Makarov turns out, and the characters' fates.

 

[Frostbite3789]

*Feels* longer doesn't mean it is longer. I guess they're trying not to blatantly lie to their audience. If it was longer they'd say it's longer. It's that simple. Why do they even care? As much as I think MW2 wasn't worth $60, I have to admit I enjoyed the SP campaign. Sure it was short, but it was worth a second playthrough. IW knows how to make an interesting single player. I think jumping on the CoD hate bandwagon makes no sense. IW only made one somewhat bad game (MW2). It was very unbalanced and it didn't have dedicated servers on PC. But it's Treyarch that keeps making shitty CoD games. They should stick to making Spiderman. At least they're good at that.

Problem: IW as you know it doesn't actually exist. Most of the team jumped ship with West and Zampella. What we're left with is a more or less dead studio that ActiBlizzard has kept around so they could name-drop them, and they had to prop up with two other studios to even complete MW3.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

Glen Schofield, one of the founders of Modern Warfare 3, co-developer Sledgehammer Games, says that while the exact length depends on the player, the single player campaign for MW3 feels longer than the one created for MW2. That's no bad thing either: Modern Warfare 2 was widely criticized for the short length of its single player portion.

So....more, longer cutscenes in which the player does nothing but watch?

What was MW2? 6 hours? Maybe this one will clock in at 6.5hrs!

 

[Mahorfeus]

Maybe it's because everything will be in slo-mo this time around. That would certainly make the game feel longer!

It's pretty much a given that Modern Warfare won't end here, so they can do what ever the heck they want, really. I'll just watch as the plot gets more implausible by the second.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

*Feels* longer doesn't mean it is longer. I guess they're trying not to blatantly lie to their audience. If it was longer they'd say it's longer. It's that simple. Why do they even care? As much as I think MW2 wasn't worth $60, I have to admit I enjoyed the SP campaign. Sure it was short, but it was worth a second playthrough. IW knows how to make an interesting single player. I think jumping on the CoD hate bandwagon makes no sense. IW only made one somewhat bad game (MW2). It was very unbalanced and it didn't have dedicated servers on PC. But it's Treyarch that keeps making shitty CoD games. They should stick to making Spiderman. At least they're good at that.

Problem: IW as you know it doesn't actually exist. Most of the team jumped ship with West and Zampella. What we're left with is a more or less dead studio that ActiBlizzard has kept around so they could name-drop them, and they had to prop up with two other studios to even complete MW3.

Well that could be a problem. Or it might turn out to be goof for CoD. Time will tell. I'm not getting it anyway. I'm tired of military shooters.

 

[5t3v0]

Dammit, ninja'd by about 90% of the population of this thread. Couldn't have put it better myself. "Feels" longer, or IS properly paced in length, IW?

 

[Ruwrak]

Then it's still pretty short?

 

[Kevlar Eater]

So... because of that blatant lie, I'm expecting the campaign to be as short as that of Homefront. And that's if I don't rush.

 

[Hellsen]

Black Ops felt longer than MW2 too, but that doesn't mean it wasn't boring as all fuck.

That not true Black Ops felt longer than MW2, BECAUSE it was boring as all fuck.

 

[Studs MacKenzie]

I don't know why no one can give Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer Games a break. The introduction of a fresh pair of eyes - and from Schofield (Dead Space) - should introduce some worthwhile single player moments, as well as perhaps a more solid product; especially in comparison to anything Treyarch comes out with.

 

[Studs MacKenzie]

I've gotten burned by Black Ops and World at War, and I can see how Modern Warfare 2 was nothing to brag about, but Modern Warfare 3 is under the guidance of a new developing studio (even more so with a significant amount of Infinity Ward jumping ship) and this installment may surprise; or at least provide a fresh perspective, for the better hopefully.

 

[Yureina]

If they manage to tell a story that was as decent as the one in MW1 at least, then I might consider getting this.

Might. I still doubt it.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

Uh oh. MW3 dev says the campaign feels longer than MW2. Not is longer than MW2. Bad choice of words or telling slip? Only time will tell I suppose.

Did you even read the article or just the title? He even stated that the length of MW3 just like every other game in existance depends entirely on the player. Some people may be able to beat it faster then they did MW2 and others may take longer.


I absolutely love how rediculous you CoD haters are.

And I absolutely love how you can jump to massive conclusions over just a few lines. First off, I did read the article. Thoroughly. But we're talking about the physical length of the game itself, not the length of time people spend playing it. A 100m track is 100m long, regardless of whether it's run in 10 seconds or 20.

Secondly, don't start chucking around phrases like 'CoD hater' just because you disagree with what I say. I'm actually a huge fan of the CoD franchise, but that doesn't stop me from realising that the single player campaigns are usually fairly short.