Modern Warfare 3 gameplay - Anything new?

[Bobic]

Because I think it's hilarious that people shell out $60 a year to play a mediocre FPS with repetitive gameplay and a terrible community.

For starters it seems a bit harsh to blame the developers for the community. And hell, is Halo's community really that much better?

Also, Battlefield doesn't really compare to COD. Battlefield is at a much slower pace, you don't just spawn and sprint aimlessly into battle, you have a look around, perhaps wander over and grab a tank. It's also lacking in the ranking up thing. It's rather paradoxically more fun to earn things than to be given them from the get go (for some people at least).

As for Halo, that's just a matter of preference. Some people like sci fi and pew pew guns. Some like a more contemporary bang bang type setting. Some people like both (or all 3) and buy both.

Yeah, I don't blame people for liking CoD, I just think it's hilarious they buy it every year. I mean, I played MW2 and while it's the second-worst multiplayer FPS I've played (after sniper: ghost warrior) I can see what people see in it. But I wouldn't buy it again every time Bobby Kotick is all "lol, we made the same game again so buy it if you want to find a lobby."

Eh, that's reasonable enough. I wouldn't buy all these things at full price. Seems like a waste of money. Though, if you have plenty of disposable income, why not buy the snazzy new update to your snazzy game?

For the record I bought MW1 not long after it came out at full price and MW2 quite a while after it came out when it went 50% off on a steam sale. I won't be getting MW3 until it going for at least 50% off.

 

[ReaperzXIII]

Which competitors? Battlefield? You got me there, Battlefield is a more deep experience, even if BC2 is a game I can't stand. However, unless you call Battlefield shallow, then CoD being less deep then Battlefield does not actually make it shallow. Logic.

Wh...that....doesnt even...wait...wha...WHAT?!!! I don't give shit about the rest of what you're saying but this is a criminal offence against all things that is logic.

So if a kiddy pool is less deep than an ocean that means the ocean is shallow? Is that the type of reasoning you are getting at? Also inb4 "doesn't MAKE it shallow" but the point is it is shallow in comparison to other games. So yeah it is shallow in comparison ergo that does make it shallow.

Also I'm not asking for CoD to make their game like Halo or Battlefield all I am asking is for CoD to try some new mechanics, maybe new gametypes, more polishing etc...


Halo at least tries new things, armour abilities, health, game modes etc...

 

[natster43]

It's Activision, they found a formula that they can pretty much completely copy and paste each time and make even more money than the last time and it works. I am probably going to get it pre owned to see the end of this story in which I came into at the middle.

Yeah, that worked out so well for Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero, right?


Oh wait...

There's a reason we aren't on StarCraft 10 by now. Blizzard knows how to develop games and has somehow kept Activision's taint off that.

Yes those games did die, but look how long those series lasted before their fall and how much money they made Activision by barely changing. It is going to hurt them later, but for now it is going to keep giving them money.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Which competitors? Battlefield? You got me there, Battlefield is a more deep experience, even if BC2 is a game I can't stand. However, unless you call Battlefield shallow, then CoD being less deep then Battlefield does not actually make it shallow. Logic.

Wh...that....doesnt even...wait...wha...WHAT?!!! I don't give shit about the rest of what you're saying but this is a criminal offence against all things that is logic.

So if a kiddy pool is less deep than an ocean that means the ocean is shallow? Is that the type of reasoning you are getting at?

The fuck.

Erm, no, that's not the type of reasoning I'm getting at. In fact, I'm suspecting a massive train wreck occured in your brain when you were writing that post.

At no point did I call Battlefield shallow. I think you can't automatically reach conclusions about CoD when comparing it to deeper games, unless you believe those deeper games are also shallow.

This leaves me at an impasse. I could accuse you of not being able to read, but you clearly named some of the things related to my post, so I'm just gonna conclude that you didn't bother re-reading it after you declared your superiority.

Thank you and good day.

 

[Nocola]

DLC?! Nothing new?!

How can you say that, there are TWO scopes!!!
Seriously, what other FPS has two scopes?

You make a compelling point, sir...

 

[Jacco]

I just care about the single player campaign. MW2 had a fun and intriguing, if somewhat lacking, plot. I want to see what happens next. So yes, I will be buying it for that.

 

[purehatred89]

yeah, I can see the arguement for skill with camos. The farthest I got was Blue Tiger for my M4. Most of the guns I use the most are around Digital or Urban.

True, I get stuck on Urban or Blue Tiger for a long time (except on Snipers obviously). But that's part of the appeal for me, I feel motivated to unlock the other camos, whereas I disliked Black Ops "buy whichever one you like". I only liked Red, ERDL and Gold

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

Still wish games would let us customize gun camos, like pick out a pattern, then color, etc.

And it sucks that the whole customizable reticule thing probably won't be in MW3 because Treyarch probably trademarked that or something.

 

[kidd25]

This is like saying that Fallout: NV is just like Fallout 3 because they look the same.

The game's not even out yet, why not save time and energy from getting frustrated at something that you haven't experienced yet? There really are better things to talk about rather than this flame bait nonsense.

dude are you a mindreader? i was thinking the same thing... are you a a jedi?

 

[caz105]

Snip

Judging a game by its trailer is like judging a baby form an ultrasound picture, these guys are obviously just hating on a game that's going to be popular to get a reaction from the 12 year old CoD fans.

 

[MuppeTeN]

I like CoD Series, they are starting to bore me though, this is probably the las CoD I buy before switching side to BF ( Sadly i don't have a 4 people group to play it )

Still the game looks great and I don't care if it is like MW2, every sequel is always like it's predecessor, so until i genuinely unique and innovative shooter appears, I'm sticking to coD.

 

[laggyteabag]

I still go by this fantastic comment i heard on the forums a while ago
"Call of Duty has name power, they can just shit in a box and it will still beat sales records"

 

[TitanAtlas]

The new thing is that the whole game is a scripted event so you could sit, and watch the game play itself!!!

 

[Frostbite3789]

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Judging a game by its trailer is like judging a baby form an ultrasound picture, these guys are obviously just hating on a game that's going to be popular to get a reaction from the 12 year old CoD fans.

Do you think you might be falling into one of these [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/8120-Experienced-Points-A-Fanboys-Guide-to-Fanboying] categories?

I think that just might be possible. I suppose you want us all to play it first, right? It's my job as an informed consumer to not do that with a product I'm 95% sure I won't like, based on previous experience (MW2, BlOps), and what footage/information has been released on this game. I can form an opinion on that.

Unless they magically transform it before November 8th, it's going to fulfill the exact expectations I have for it. As evidenced by everything they've shown off and said about it.

Hell, part of their marketing was to scream about how it runs at 60 frames per second on a 10 year old engine, on consoles. Where it will be a lagfest online and you're frames per second won't matter that much because the host of the game is 3,000 miles from you.

 

[Korten12]

If I where to came to this thread and said: STALKER is the best FPS and superior to everything else. No one would say anything.

Yeah, because STALKER is actually good.

Purely subjective.

 

[ReaperzXIII]

Which competitors? Battlefield? You got me there, Battlefield is a more deep experience, even if BC2 is a game I can't stand. However, unless you call Battlefield shallow, then CoD being less deep then Battlefield does not actually make it shallow. Logic.

Wh...that....doesnt even...wait...wha...WHAT?!!! I don't give shit about the rest of what you're saying but this is a criminal offence against all things that is logic.

So if a kiddy pool is less deep than an ocean that means the ocean is shallow? Is that the type of reasoning you are getting at?

The fuck.

Erm, no, that's not the type of reasoning I'm getting at. In fact, I'm suspecting a massive train wreck occured in your brain when you were writing that post.

At no point did I call Battlefield shallow. I think you can't automatically reach conclusions about CoD when comparing it to deeper games, unless you believe those deeper games are also shallow.

This leaves me at an impasse. I could accuse you of not being able to read, but you clearly named some of the things related to my post, so I'm just gonna conclude that you didn't bother re-reading it after you declared your superiority.

Thank you and good day.

My point was that if something is deeper than another thing then the other thing is shallow in comparison, people were making the point that CoD is shallow, you disagreed saying CoD can't be shallow unless those games that are deeper are also shallow. I disagreed with the logic of that statement, so is it you that cannot read, sure I exaggerated but the point is just because something is more shallow than another doesn't mean the other thing is also shallow: ergo the kiddy pool and ocean example.

So I'm repeat myself one more time, if Battlefield is deeper than CoD then CoD is either shallow or shallow in comparison, therefore people can say CoD is shallow. My problem comes when you say you cannot call CoD shallow unless those deeper games are also shallow which is simply untrue

So no, there was not a massive train wreck in my head you just didn't understand the analogy, no need for an apology I forgive you.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

I care about single player in Call of Duty about as much as I care about multiplayer in Mass Effect. That is to say, not in the slightest.

If I want to play CoD single player, I'd go play CoD4 again and just imagine if Michael Bay had produced it. That's essentially what CoD single player has become: a shitty mindless Michael Bay movie.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

My point was that if something is deeper than another thing then the other thing is shallow in comparison, people were making the point that CoD is shallow, you disagreed saying CoD can't be shallow unless those games that are deeper are also shallow. I disagreed with the logic of that statement

Good, because that statement has nothing to do with what I was actually saying.

Read again, would ya? If you were, perhaps, to see that I was not making a point but a counterpoint to somebody (not that it was easy to notice the quote, mind you, so it's all good), i.e. I was not actually disproving CoD being shallow but arguing that it being less deep than certain other games is in no way proof of it being shallow. But, alas.

So, yeah, I stand by the train wreck thing.

 

[theonecookie]

The Call of Duty series is pretty much superior in every form to every other FPS, and infact any other genre game. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes.

LMFAO!

Let's have a look shall we.


A game that shows no significant gameplay advances since MW1. 4 years later.


MW3's big competitor. Just look at the difference in gameplay, graphics, voice acting, effects, immersion, animation, destruction and it's ability to have large scale events happen without scripting.

This is a game for 2011. MW3 is no different from a game that came out in 2009.

Rage, http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/trailers/3794-Rage-Making-of-Enemies

Just look at the level of detail the enemy characters AI and individual reactionary scripting. The enemy sets into an animation that differs depending on where you shoot them and whether or not they have friends near by.

That's going to freaking add to the immersion soooo much. And just look at how beautiful it looks and how heavy and real the guns feel.

Look up the gameplay of Metro 2033.

Look up a game called Stalker. The sheer depth of that games quality more than made up for it's poor graphics.

Literally, I could go on all day here.

I don't even particularly dislike CoD. But saying what you just said then. It shows a great amount of ignorance on the subject.

Right after watching both of them videos both of which I havent seen before I have to ask what are you on and where can i get some

First game play both the videos where identical the play had a gun and shot people (yes i know battlefeild had tanks but thay where not included)

Graphics: again identical (may be diffrent on pc but not hear)

Voice acting: again identical (no argument)

Effects: where more or less the smae with battlefield being slighly ahead

Immersion: again both looked more or less the same

Animation: I would say battlefield had a slight edge but some of the animations note the sprinting and the first set of crawling animations where floaty as fuck to the point of the ground looking like an optional extra but then again I was kinda impresed when he got blown back from the rocket in the car park but it looks just to be a stright up canned animation

destruction: got to gowith battlefield as I was kinda suprised when the building that get hit near the end of the MW3 dident fall down plus battle feild has that whole everything falls down option

and on the last point about scripting you honastly thing none of the BF3 video was scripted cos that would be a mighty silly comment to make

lastly about the feel of the gun i would like to point out both the m4s where using the same sound file not simmiler but the same and both sets of guns look way to floaty with less recoil than I would expect from a assult weapon on full auto

over all from them two videos if i give battlefield and 8 I have to give MW3 a 7 with the only diffence beeing the destruction part of BF3

long post is long Captcha *cookie cutter*

 

[ReaperzXIII]

My point was that if something is deeper than another thing then the other thing is shallow in comparison, people were making the point that CoD is shallow, you disagreed saying CoD can't be shallow unless those games that are deeper are also shallow. I disagreed with the logic of that statement

Good, because that statement has nothing to do with what I was actually saying.

Read again, would ya? If you were, perhaps, to see that I was not making a point but a counterpoint to somebody (not that it was easy to notice the quote, mind you, so it's all good), i.e. I was not actually disproving CoD being shallow but arguing that it being less deep than certain other games is in no way proof of it being shallow. But, alas.

So, yeah, I stand by the train wreck thing.

If you read what I said after then CoD is either shallow or shallow in comparison thus they are not wrong in calling it shallow, so stop saying I cant read when you obviously skip over the things I type.

Ok fine it has nothing to do with what you are actually saying but I was arguing with the logic since the beginning not your actual point.