Modern Warfare 3: Why does everyone hate it?

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Well i bought Modern Warfare 3, and i'm halfway through the game right now, and i'm throughly enjoying myself, and most of all i'm having fun.
Now i've seen thread after thread of people sledging crap at it, all because it's a) a sequel, b) not superior graphically to BF3 (which has to be the most pathetic argument of all time) and c) lolololol its copy and paste HURR

What is it with fanboys having to bash everything, i mean have we reached a point where we are all cynical to the everything?

So anyway, i think Modern Warfare 3 is good for a whole plethora of reasons. i mean for one it finally balances it's fucking veteran difficulty. spec-ops is unbelievable ketchup sauce, and the multiplayers the multiplayer for which i have no problem with.

But it's the BF3 fanboys, and everyone else that is whining about a service you don't have to actually sign up for, nor pay for it, and thats why it's shit? i mean come on BF3's biggest falling point is using a fricking web browser to access multiplayer games. What is up with that?

anyway i think people should just be a little more lighter on the criticism.

biggest lols to the Metacritic bombers who all write "I haven't even bought MW3 and i think it's the worst game of all time"

 

[Palademon]

I find it funny that both sides of MW3 vs BF3 will refer to eachother as fanboys.

So...you don't have a problem with the people that aren't interested in either that complain? Because I thought this thread would be about that.

 

[gamerguy20097]

Its not the game that people hate. Its all the fanboys that say its the best thing that happened to gaming since the original super mario.

 

[edgecult]

I don't why people hate it... but I personally dislike it. For the simple reason it's the same game I played years ago with so little change it just seems like a roster update from madden. No reason they can't give me something new if they are going to charge me for it now no? Half the reason it sells half as well as it does is because half the group feels the need to jump the next game and the other half follows because half their friends aren't going to play with them on the old game anymore -shrug-

I already typed out why i'm disappointed that they don't break the mold in a different thread but here's the short version. They have no reason why they can't expand out of the part that's severely lacking in. The story mode. It's always short.. the story makes half sense at a good point and always ends with some dramatic shock that only worked once which sadly they probably shot themselves in the foot with sense it set the bar to high to follow. Once you nuke your player character it's hard to follow even the shot and burned alive thing just didn't reach it.. it could have especially if you really got to know your partner character but really he's only recognizable because he's the one you don't know.. faceless and dies before you learn anything about him. They have a set fanbase who will buy the game on the functional MP alone so why not take your chances on the Single player. The best parts of them were the ones that weren't all run and gun. The sniper mission in MW 1. The Orbital plane and general sneaking mission part in black ops. Why not get more missions like that. Something you can't replicate in the MP. The run a gun parts were always the sloggiest part of single player so less of those more of unique ones that twist the rules of the games to work. (and not do it through achievements)

 

[saucecode]

I don't mind it being a sequel. People get overexcited on graphics, which is a bit weird.
Personally, I see CoD as an $80 DLC that comes on its own disc (thats $80 NZ).
It really isn't different from its predecessor. And it really is a copy and paste, imo.

 

[ScaryAlmond]

This is why read this article
http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-360/mw3-is-just-recycling-buildings-and-error-messages/

The reason why people hate it is because it is the exact same experience over and over again.
while no one would normally care the fact that billions could be made with such lazy work compared to those who actually try pisses people off.
If you need a quick summary we don't like people who hardly do anything different but get so much money.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

Because the single player is sh*t from what I'm told and I'm with Yahtzee on the idea that single player should stand up to certain expectations, regardless of the multilayer.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

I find it funny that both sides of MW3 vs BF3 will refer to eachother as fanboys.

So...you don't have a problem with the people that aren't interested in either that complain? Because I thought this thread would be about that.

Ofc not, because those people are only complaining because everyone else is complaining. Plus those types of people just want to spam skyrim.

 

[edgecult]

Because it's a heavily scripted/linear/boring/arcade/cover shooter with health regeneration, and a retarded ass Michael Bay style action movie with lots of 'SPLOSIONS every 2 seconds, all rolled into one.

MP is just running around with a bunch of 12 year old turds on tiny maps with unbalanced weapons and unrealistic gameplay, shooting them over and over and over and again.

I hate it so much because it makes so much $$$ (really the consumers fault for buying it) and other devs and publishers see that, want a piece of that action, so now you have all these games from different genres being homogenized, thus hurting the diversity in gaming.

Well aside from the regen health thing.. (always struck me as weird in what's trying to be realisticish but getting shot and bleeding out 10 seconds into a game would sorta kill pacing)

the action movie thing is just.. fine really.. it's an action game.. they could tone down the Bay in it but you can't be mad at an action movie because you went in to see military gun fest 4 expecting a romantic comedy.

Ok the people who play the game is out of the hands of the devs and something to take up with the mothers of the world buying the game for their kids.. The rest again goes back to the "realistic" issue being that it'd be permanent hardcore mode for every gun sense there's no real medics in game to drag your wounded body to bandage before you bleed out. No gun really kills better than the others.. just more efficiently than the others. A .38 will kill you just as well as a Desert Eagle if your shot anywhere in your torso/head after all. (bad example considering body armor but that really doesn't factor in the game anyway -shrug-)

Not sure what you mean by unrealistic gameplay.. that again seems more an issue with team mates and opponents doing their own things instead of working as a team or something than an actual game flaw.

As for the other thing... yeah that is kinda sad to see.. it will make enough money to buy a small country because it's popular.. nothing to be done about that.. they did something good once and will run with it till it's as bled as sonic and everyone else will just have to deal with it and wait for the next big game to come out and turn racing games mainstreme... or anime 2d fighters.. or whatever comes over the next hill when the age of FPS' comes to a close.

 

[enzilewulf]

Im just sick of the praise it gets. This is also like the 7th million thread about it as well. Its not all just BF3 fan boys. I am a fan boy of BF3 and I haven't even riffed on it yet just because I haven't played it. Its just as easy to say "Of coarse the MW3 crowds going to like it, they love infinity ward and are all simple minded 12 year olds." We all know thats not the case though. I see no shame in IF just doing what they are best at. I mean the story has never really interested me but if you like it go play it.

 

[Korolev]

I got it yesterday and I liked the campaign a whole bunch. I was set to like the Multiplayer except for one big thing:

Hackers.

This isn't MW3's fault. Every online multiplayer game has Hackers. MW3 just attracts a larger crowd than usual, and that's not its fault. It even tried to be Steam Exclusive for the PC to use VAC to get rid of Hackers. But Hackers persist and Steam does not ban them fast enough.

I know there are hackers. Why? Because the Killcam shows players tracking my movement through walls, and then they start to fire BEFORE I go around a corner. I've checked - it's not shadows, it's not noise (they are far away and I wasn't running) - they just magically KNOW I'm there. And it keeps on happening. About half the matches I've been in, there's always a wall-hacker, texture-hacker that gets insane kills because they can see through walls.

I'm sick of it. This isn't MW3's fault. It's the players fault. BF3 has some hackers, but generally hacks are not as useful since the maps are huge and you only run into the cheaters every so often. With MW3, with its tightly enclosed maps and corridors, you are constantly running into people who can magically track you through walls and kill you with a single bullet fired from a submachine gun halfway across the map.

People ruin everything.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Find me one quote not on any official forums. Do it.

You probably need to read up on this incredible new invention: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

OT: The hate is a natural response to over-popularity, this isn't reserved for CoD or games for that matter, when people start gushing over something this badly then others will be pulling them down to ground level.

 

[Reveras]

I got it yesterday and I liked the campaign a whole bunch. I was set to like the Multiplayer except for one big thing:

Hackers.

This isn't MW3's fault. Every online multiplayer game has Hackers. MW3 just attracts a larger crowd than usual, and that's not its fault. It even tried to be Steam Exclusive for the PC to use VAC to get rid of Hackers. But Hackers persist and Steam does not ban them fast enough.

I know there are hackers. Why? Because the Killcam shows players tracking my movement through walls, and then they start to fire BEFORE I go around a corner. I've checked - it's not shadows, it's not noise (they are far away and I wasn't running) - they just magically KNOW I'm there. And it keeps on happening. About half the matches I've been in, there's always a wall-hacker, texture-hacker that gets insane kills because they can see through walls.

I'm sick of it. This isn't MW3's fault. It's the players fault. BF3 has some hackers, but generally hacks are not as useful since the maps are huge and you only run into the cheaters every so often. With MW3, with its tightly enclosed maps and corridors, you are constantly running into people who can magically track you through walls and kill you with a single bullet fired from a submachine gun halfway across the map.

People ruin everything.

"Our UAV is online!"

 

[CulixCupric]

IMO: same old army shooter, new duds. we've had enough, and it's more a reboot then a sequel, people are going to play it for the MP, and it's no different then MW2's, so why make/buy it?

 

[Vuljatar]

I beat the campaign in 2 and a half hours, that's why.

 

[hooksashands]

From this point on I'm going to start shitting all over Call of Duty simply because people won't stop creating topics [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.310173-I-have-had-enough-with-the-Call-of-Duty-hate-train] about how much [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.313798-A-Non-Hate-Call-of-Duty-Thread] everyone [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.307790-The-Call-of-Duty-hate?page=1] supposedly shits [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.304008-Poll-Poll-Does-Call-of-Duty-deserve-all-the-hate-it-gets?] all over [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.310930-Why-all-the-Halo-and-Call-of-Duty-hate] it. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.319514-COD-Why-all-the-hate?]

Modern Warfare 1, 2 and 3 are teh suX. I hate them. Every CoD game should be given a negative score on every videogame site on the Internet. Omg, go die in a cockfire CoD players, assn00bs!

There, closed that chapter finally.

 

[Uncle_Brainhorn]

I beat the campaign in 2 and a half hours, that's why.

Either you're exaggerating, or you can manipulate time.

 

[Joccaren]

Its not the game that people hate. Its all the fanboys that say its the best thing that happened to gaming since the original super mario.

Find me one quote not on any official forums. Do it.

Allow me to search through my earlier posts in earlier threads, and you will have that quote - if I can be bothered.

OT: I don't hate the game, I hate the players, but I find the game mediocre at best. Its not my type of game, and it certainly isn't 'the most anticipated game ever'. Maybe the most people anticipating it, but I could probably find some more 'nerdy' game like WoW or SC2 that had more people waiting for it if I put my mind to it, and other games have had far more excitement leading up to them than MW3 - at least in the circles I hang with.

Skyrim in Particular has caused quite an uproar with its release in a little over a days time here. Also the release of Inheritance series final book on the same day as MW3 took even more limelight away from it.

So really, not EVERYONE hates CoD, and a lot of people that do hate the players more than the game, but it isn't anything great, and people heralding it as such should expect others to share their opinions on the matter, whether agreeing with them or not.

And a couple more 'arguments' you should add in that are used often:
-Lack of team focus in CoD (One man can take down an enemy team in CoD. In BF, its far less likely to happen)
-Its full of 12 year olds (I'm 12 and what is this?)

But I would disagree with you on the graphics and such. When you can't come down to a simple 'I prefer this gamestyle, and you prefer that gamestyle' (As BF and CoD are quite different in how they play), and one side or the other insists on their's being better just because (For me its always CoD people who type like they're 12, but I don't doubt a lot of BF3 people do it to CoD too), things that can objectively be called better will be bought forward. BF3s Graphics and Sound engine ARE superior. However, CoD is optimised better to run on low end systems like consoles.

All in all, a lot of people, and I'd say most people here, are fine with each others opinions on a game until someone brings threads like this one up. Then it all turns to Flame War: Modern Trollfare 3

I beat the campaign in 2 and a half hours, that's why.

Either you're exaggerating, or you can manipulate time.

You'd be amazed at what can be accomplished in 2 hours of dedicated gaming, and CoD isn't exactly known for its campaign length...
From what I can find online, it 'feels' longer than MW2, however I have also found some links saying that 'campaign length doesn't matter' was stated by the devs sometime, so it is quite possible he managed to do this.