Modern Warfare 3: Why does everyone hate it?

[Korolev]

I got it yesterday and I liked the campaign a whole bunch. I was set to like the Multiplayer except for one big thing:

Hackers.

This isn't MW3's fault. Every online multiplayer game has Hackers. MW3 just attracts a larger crowd than usual, and that's not its fault. It even tried to be Steam Exclusive for the PC to use VAC to get rid of Hackers. But Hackers persist and Steam does not ban them fast enough.

I know there are hackers. Why? Because the Killcam shows players tracking my movement through walls, and then they start to fire BEFORE I go around a corner. I've checked - it's not shadows, it's not noise (they are far away and I wasn't running) - they just magically KNOW I'm there. And it keeps on happening. About half the matches I've been in, there's always a wall-hacker, texture-hacker that gets insane kills because they can see through walls.

I'm sick of it. This isn't MW3's fault. It's the players fault. BF3 has some hackers, but generally hacks are not as useful since the maps are huge and you only run into the cheaters every so often. With MW3, with its tightly enclosed maps and corridors, you are constantly running into people who can magically track you through walls and kill you with a single bullet fired from a submachine gun halfway across the map.

People ruin everything.

"Our UAV is online!"

It ain't UAVs. This sometimes happens at the start of a map. I know the UAV allows you to see on the minimap the location of players, but this is worse than that. The killcam shows them tracking my location (indicated by the big red YOU sign) PERFECTLY THROUGH TWO SETS OF BUILDINGS. No one is that good with the minimap. No one. I've been in matches in which these people can get 30 kills and only 2 deaths, which usually only come about because we decide to swarm the cheating bastard. and he can't shoot all of us at once.

They are hacking.

 

[weker]

a) a sequel, b) not superior graphically to BF3 and
c) lolololol its copy and paste HURR

What is it with fanboys having to bash everything, i mean have we reached a point where we are all cynical to the everything?

Their not fanboys, I am not getting BF3 and I am don't like MW3.
Their valid points, the game is glorified DLC at points, as it has a shorter campaign, the same graphics and reused models. The game is a giant rehash of the last on. The graphics are not complained about because their not as good as BF3 it's because there identical to MW2, they haven't bothered to upgrade it at all.
These are only a select few reasons why people don't like MW3, and there are many more that revolve around the community, gameplay, short campaign, lack of zombies, and insanely over used use of quick time events.

There are many reason why people don't like it, and it's ignorant to say it's only fanboys that dislike it, as I assure you many many many people dislike it for plenty of valid reason.
I tend to find most MW players try to latch this idea of only fanboy attack it, which really doesn't make any sense unless their the type that say buy battlefield instead. You can't be a fanboy of hating things, it really doesn't make any sense.


edit: oh also it's a bad port for PC

 

[Kiardras]

I hate the multiplayer, which is boring, unbalanced, and full of crap overpowered weapon combo's.

The single player of MW1, 2 and hopefully 3, whilst flawed, I've really enjoyed - its been loads of fun.

 

[Beryl77]

First, It gets so much because the game had just been released yesterday and I don't even know how often I've seen this thread.
Second, not everyone hates it, otherwise it wouldn't be the best selling game of this year.
Third, it's narrow minded to just call everyone who doesn't like mw3, a bf3 fanboy. Just like I could say, you're a fanboy because you're defending it. Can't people just give it a rest? There are many reasons why you can like it and many reasons why you can dislike it.

 

[Zhukov]

Ugh.

You do realise that this topic comes up at least once a day, right?

If you really want an answer to that question then just run a search anywhere remotely connected to gaming, and you will have answers aplenty.

But you're not actually asking why people dislike CoD, you're just sore that someone, quite a few someones in fact, said something unflattering about a game you like. So you've coming running to your forum of choice in search of confirmation.

 

[Arakasi]

I dislike BF3 and MW3 equally.
I'm over war games.

 

[OrenjiJusu]

I do admit, CoD generally has good gameplay, fun multiplayer and solid game mechanics. My personnal problem is one that will be spouted by everyone on the battlefield side of the argument.
It's suffering from Madden-itis. There is just not enough time in a year for me to play through a CoD game, get sick of it, and then long for a new one.

 

[ZakuII]

The reason why people hate it is because it is the exact same experience over and over again.

On the contrary, I hate it because it's NOT the same experience all over again. MW was a brilliant game I throughly enjoyed and played into the floor. Then with MW2 they removed a lot of things that made the first great, while also adding new features that made the game worse.

Also on a personal note, I swear that the detail that went into MW maps was insane. You would always find a missing brick left out of a wall at 'just' the right spot to make a shot into some commonly used area. MW2 maps? Just seemed like someone threw a bunch of random scrap together.

TLR
They take the game further in the wrong direction with every new release.

 

[Lucian The Lugia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5176xCZSpSo&feature=relmfu

One of the reasons why I'm not a COD player.

EDIT: What are the forum tags for YouTube videos?

 

[Hero in a half shell]

-snip-

You are right in that many of the people who dislike COD are just jumping on the bandwagon, to make themselves feel superior and better than the "sheeple", (I think this thread has a few in it as well) but one of the biggest geniune complaints about COD is that it doesn't deserve the popularity and profit that the game gets: that the developers aren't bothering to put much effort into the game because they know it will sell, so a great opportunity to experiment and innovate is lost as they refuse to change the formula.

Modern Warfare 2 got lucky in that it created a highly successful and simple formula for making multiplayer addictive, (the RPG elements)and those that got addicted to it drew all their friends in until the franchise became the game to own, because everyone else owned it. The weird thing is, the multiplayer isn't even that spectacular, the perks can be manipulated to get overpowered loadouts, the guns are all outshadowed by one or two of the most powerful, which everyone tends to use, kill-streaks only benefit the winners, while penalising losers, etc.
And Activision can be dicks in their marketing strategies and attitude to customers.

This guy gives a great example of the lazy programming that is seen to just turn the games into wasted opportunities:

This is why read this article
http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-360/mw3-is-just-recycling-buildings-and-error-messages/

The reason why people hate it is because it is the exact same experience over and over again.
while no one would normally care the fact that billions could be made with such lazy work compared to those who actually try pisses people off.
If you need a quick summary we don't like people who hardly do anything different but get so much money.

As an example, Minecraft became insanely popular, but there isn't much hate towards it from gamers because the idea behind the game is incredibly original and well executed. The guy that made the game was able to use the funds to start his own game company, and is creating other original games (Skyrim... Oh wait, I mean Scrolls. The two are so similar I got confused.)
But with Activision they are just rehashing the same tried formula: 6 hour highly linear and scripted singleplayer with shock value set-pieces, online multiplayer with a few maps, game modes, several different guns, skill trees and killstreaks. There are minimal patches and bug-fixes, and several inherent balance issues are either ignored of half-assedly dealt with (quick-scoping nerfed in Blops by making snipers pretty much unusable, then brought back in MW3)

 

[everythingbeeps]

and c) lolololol its copy and paste HURR

Is this the only way you know how to dismiss a valid point? By mocking people without actually providing any argument?

 

[The_Merchant]

Its not really the game i dislike but rather the community,i even enjoyed WaW.
But after getting dozens of childish hate messages and people forcing me to a one on one quickscope match because you headshot them more than once i simply turned it down.
And because of the sales of the franchise many developers try to carbon copy
it(MP:Kill people -> get EXP ->LVL UP -> get new weapons->brag about your badges/medals/awards)

 

[SweetNess_666]

Well I've just got it and pretty much only just started the single player and omg I am loving it the multiplayer is better than cod by miles. I really don't know why ppl are hating Mw3 but everyone is entitled to there opinion, I do think the haters should sit down and play thru it before slating a game they've never played , screw the internet gossip you can only form a real opinion on first hand experience x

 

[Raika]

The reason people hate Modern Warfare 3 is because it's popular, and they think that insulting something that's popular makes them seem edgy and cool in front of the friends that they don't have. The same applies to all popular games that weren't published by Nintendo, but first-person shooters tend to receive the brunt of the internet hipster wrath.

 

[crazeekamikazee]

To be honest the game is good, very good. it's fun, challenging, twitchy, fast paces greatness. if that's not your thing, that's fine. but I think a lot of hate come from people who think its cool to dislike CoD(because its popular), which is sad because apart from the hipsters no one else thinks they're cool.

When they are called out on it they will blame the fan base(fanboy's), because they got no real reason to dislike it, then you hear stupid shit like:
"gamerguy20097:
Its not the game that people hate. Its all the fanboys that say its the best thing that happened to gaming since the original super mario."

 

[crazeekamikazee]

To be honest the game is good, very good. it's fun, challenging, twitchy, fast paces greatness. if that's not your thing, that's fine. but I think a lot of hate come from people who think its cool to dislike CoD(because its popular), which is sad because apart from the hipsters no one else thinks they're cool.

When they are called out on it they will blame the fan base(fanboy's), because they got no real reason to dislike it, then you hear stupid shit like:
"gamerguy20097:
Its not the game that people hate. Its all the fanboys that say its the best thing that happened to gaming since the original super mario."