It's not about a hatred of the church, or god. (At least from my comment) it's simply about... what the hell is the church going to do about this. This is a problem that can only be solved by a parent, a kid, and a belt.teh_pwning_dude said:There's something wrong with you. She needs support from someone to defend her from all you nutters.RatRace123 said:She immediately lost any credibility when she mentioned support from her church.
So, naturally she's just another crazy on the pile.
Same goes for you. Are you an athiest? Prove God doesn't exist to back up your beliefs. Can't? thought so. Put up or shut up.JoshGod said:wow the church thats proven backed up undeniable proof, you're right!
what are you doing?
praying to god.
so this god is he in the room with us right now?
yes hes everywere.
hello is that the nut house....
Wow. . . . . well the kid was already in trouble for attempting-assault, what's another.MetaKnight19 said:This reminds me of an old story when a kid's mum called the police after he opened his Christmas present early.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/06/mom-of-the-year-calls-cops-on-son-who-opened-playstation-gamebo/
I'm sure you misunderstood, im saying there's more thing parents can get worked up about then a kid staying up playing videogameslacktheknack said:Well, that point shot you in your foot. I love irony.
Master,Master_Fubar23 said:as a parent as well i cant agree with either of you. blameing the child so quickly? the child reflects the parent. so i cant image the shit that kid has to deal with. also the part when she mentioned the church i was like oh shit... that says it all. parents incompetience is to be blamed not the "lil shit".Alone Disciple said:Also as a parent, I couldn't agree more. It's sad that she is so already defeated and he's only 14. What she thinks it's gonna get better when he's 16 or 18? Nope.chronobreak said:As a parent, I can only imagine what kind of little shit this kid must be and what he puts his poor mother through. She needs to mom up, and give the damn console away to someone, but if she has this much trouble disciplining her son maybe if she did that the kid would go psycho on her. She's probably afraid of him to some degree to let him walk all over her like that.
Also, from the looks of the story, she's a single mom. This kid is just a brat, too bad the cops couldn't take him away for a bit.
No matter what 'we' think of GTA IV and it's affect or non-affect on voilence is irrelevant. It is her house, her kid, her rules. If she feels that strongly about that game or any other game no matter what the title is, um...take it away? How hard can this be?
I have a 17 year old myself, and no way is my 17 year old going to tell me I can't enforce a no-gaming policy or 'title' policy in my house. Clearly they both have issues...her inability to have a spine and let her kid rule her, and his inability to show respect to his mother.
I'm sure this had been said somewhere else in the 160+ responses (that I'm too lazy to read through), but here's a novel idea: TAKE THE CONSOLE AWAY. If you can't do that to a 14 year old, then you as a parent have failed and my sympathy stops.
as for GTA IV i dont let my child play it but being a gamer i dont just say dont play this even though I'M going to play it later. one thing i hate are hypocrites.so i sit him down and have him watch as a play and point out why i dont want him playing. although he isnt 17 yet but works all the same
lol correct if she needs to discipline the kid and cant take away the console then that just adds to how much i alrdy think she fails.
one more thing. it lead to an arguement when she UNPLUGED the game... sooooo anyone who is a gamer knows if he didnt save the game then all those hrs he spent playing are lost. now no one can tell me he/she wouldnt be pissed if they were doing something for many hours and then someone comes in and deletes, destroys, or breaks whatever you were working on. also before anyone wants to be a dickhead and say its unimportant, well it may be unimportant to you but what does matter is if it is important to him/her. no can or should mitigate someone elses happiness
Exactly.katsa5 said:And for all of those that like to blame church and parents for their problems, thank you for missing the point.
Nice conclusion there, Bruiski.Woodsey said:Erm...
If she doesn't approve of GTA IV, then why does she let her son play it?
This coupled with the fact she called the police over an argument leads me to the conclusion that she is in fact, a moron.
I still dream of the day something like this happens and they find Barbies horse adventures in the kids console...The DSM said:"I have the support of my church"
When you read that line, you can hear credibility die.
Note: Whats with the violence of GTA4? would they not complain if it was Madworld just because its on a "family" console?
Edit: My first quote ninja