Morals

[timmytom1]

No ,next question

 

[magnuslion]

my code is close to bushido, or the Legion Codex. a warriors code of responsibility and order.

Me, I'm not such a big fan of 'responsibility' and 'order'.
We don't get along very well.

of course you don't. responsibility would mean taking responsibility for your own actions and having to stop whining about all the "horrible" and "tragic" things that have happened to you.

Oh. You meant that kind of responsibility.
I meant the being-responsible-for-things kind.
You know, like your momma always says "You need to be more responsible."

ahh. no, that's not what I meant. you should be at least as responsible as the life you have set up requires you to be. if you avoid other commitments, marriage, kids, etc, then it is your business because it is your life.

 

[dontworryaboutit]

my code is close to bushido, or the Legion Codex. a warriors code of responsibility and order.

We have no need for bushido.

What's with all the warrior's codes? Can't we have a system of morality (note, I'm talking about morality, not legislation) that doesn't involve impersonal bureaucratic rules and unquestioning obedience to a lord or vassal? My ideal form of morality would allow me to think for myself instead of painting by numbers through a codified set of rules.

A person must have a reason for doing what's right. A reason other than, "I do what the books says."

My two cents.

"You only find yourself when you disobey. Disobedience is the beginning of responsibility."
"I think that is the ultimate cowardice, when someone makes your choices for you in an institutional way."

 

[MrSnugglesworth]

Moral's are for hippies.

 

[magnuslion]

my code is close to bushido, or the Legion Codex. a warriors code of responsibility and order.

We have no need for bushido.

What's with all the warrior's codes? Can't we have a system of morality (note, I'm talking about morality, not legislation) that doesn't involve impersonal bureaucratic rules and unquestioning obedience to a lord or vassal? My ideal form of morality would allow me to think for myself instead of painting by numbers through a codified set of rules.

A person must have a reason for doing what's right. A reason other than, "I do what the books says."

My two cents.

((rolls eyes)) ahh i see. you are an intelligent sophisticate that cant grasp a warriors mentality. which begs me the question: "what the fuck are you doing on a gaming site?"
if you bothered to actually read any of the aforementioned texts instead of slinging your ego around, you would have noticed the common thread: That the strong, physically, mentally, and socially, have an OBLIGATION to the weak. I was given my strength for a reason, whether by God or Fate.

 

[magnuslion]

my code is close to bushido, or the Legion Codex. a warriors code of responsibility and order.

We have no need for bushido.

What's with all the warrior's codes? Can't we have a system of morality (note, I'm talking about morality, not legislation) that doesn't involve impersonal bureaucratic rules and unquestioning obedience to a lord or vassal? My ideal form of morality would allow me to think for myself instead of painting by numbers through a codified set of rules.

A person must have a reason for doing what's right. A reason other than, "I do what the books says."

My two cents.

"You only find yourself when you disobey. Disobedience is the beginning of responsibility."
"I think that is the ultimate cowardice, when someone makes your choices for you in an institutional way."

so what you are saying, in effect, is that you really believe that your own set of Ideas is original?

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

my code is close to bushido, or the Legion Codex. a warriors code of responsibility and order.

We have no need for bushido.

What's with all the warrior's codes? Can't we have a system of morality (note, I'm talking about morality, not legislation) that doesn't involve impersonal bureaucratic rules and unquestioning obedience to a lord or vassal? My ideal form of morality would allow me to think for myself instead of painting by numbers through a codified set of rules.

A person must have a reason for doing what's right. A reason other than, "I do what the books says."

My two cents.

"You only find yourself when you disobey. Disobedience is the beginning of responsibility."
"I think that is the ultimate cowardice, when someone makes your choices for you in an institutional way."

Hellboy fan?

Nah, I'm not talking about disobedience. More like, understanding what's right for reasons that aren't just arbitrary. Where you were born, who your leader happens to be, what your parents taught you, that's arbitrary. What you figure out, that's yours. Why let someone else make decisions for you when you're perfectly capable (I hope) of making good decisions yourself?

 

[BlackIronGuardian]

Whatever is expedient to believe in at the time.

Conflict gets me hurt, and hurt very bad.

 

[dontworryaboutit]

"You only find yourself when you disobey. Disobedience is the beginning of responsibility."
"I think that is the ultimate cowardice, when someone makes your choices for you in an institutional way."

Hellboy fan?

Nah, I'm not talking about disobedience. More like, understanding what's right for reasons that aren't just arbitrary. Where you were born, who your leader happens to be, what your parents taught you, that's arbitrary. What you figure out, that's yours. Why let someone else make decisions for you when you're perfectly capable (I hope) of making good decisions yourself?

Nah, Guillermo del Toro fan in general. And that quote about disobedience was really in reference to the resistance of fascism displayed in Pan's Labyrinth. In the end, it's all about thinking for yourself.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

my code is close to bushido, or the Legion Codex. a warriors code of responsibility and order.

We have no need for bushido.

What's with all the warrior's codes? Can't we have a system of morality (note, I'm talking about morality, not legislation) that doesn't involve impersonal bureaucratic rules and unquestioning obedience to a lord or vassal? My ideal form of morality would allow me to think for myself instead of painting by numbers through a codified set of rules.

A person must have a reason for doing what's right. A reason other than, "I do what the books says."

My two cents.

((rolls eyes)) ahh i see. you are an intelligent sophisticate that cant grasp a warriors mentality. which begs me the question: "what the fuck are you doing on a gaming site?"
if you bothered to actually read any of the aforementioned texts instead of slinging your ego around, you would have noticed the common thread: That the strong, physically, mentally, and socially, have an OBLIGATION to the weak. I was given my strength for a reason, whether by God or Fate.

If you're a warrior, why the fuck are you on a gaming site? I think the Escapist favors people who can think, rather than the refus that bash eachothers brains out with sticks.

Warriors are just told they're noble, so they don't question why they're fighting. For that same reason, they throw rocks at people who can think.

I hope you make your vassal proud.

 

[sanomaton]

I draw the line at the abuse of animals or people. Humans inflicting torture on anything alive are less than dirt to me.

This, I agree with this 100 percent. And I would never ever cheat on my significant other. If my significant other cheats on me, I will cut off his penis.

 

[Krakyn]

My morals aren't conventional. I believe that obeying norms is a destructive thing, and I'm definitely not a "good" person. I'm a voyeur, I'm a thief, I'm a liar, and I'm a cheat. I commend resourcefulness and intelligence above everything else; lying to other people is okay, but lying to yourself is the biggest sin in my book.

To save my own life, I would probably kill another person. If I had to die to save a city of millions, I'd still probably run.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

I was quite aware of that, good sir; My post was merely sarcastic and comedic as if to reflect the abscense of morals completely, for me.

So you're okay with liars, theft, embezzling politicians, pyro-necro-pedophilia, and talking in the theater?

 

[Krakyn]

I was quite aware of that, good sir; My post was merely sarcastic and comedic as if to reflect the abscense of morals completely, for me.

So you're okay with liars, theft, embezzling politicians, pyro-necro-pedophilia, and talking in the theater?

What part of "sarcastic and comedic" didn't you understand?

But yes, I'm okay with all of those, except that last one.

Yeah, I hate it when people talk in the theater. To each their own for the rest of them.

 

[magnuslion]

my code is close to bushido, or the Legion Codex. a warriors code of responsibility and order.

We have no need for bushido.

What's with all the warrior's codes? Can't we have a system of morality (note, I'm talking about morality, not legislation) that doesn't involve impersonal bureaucratic rules and unquestioning obedience to a lord or vassal? My ideal form of morality would allow me to think for myself instead of painting by numbers through a codified set of rules.

A person must have a reason for doing what's right. A reason other than, "I do what the books says."

My two cents.

((rolls eyes)) ahh i see. you are an intelligent sophisticate that cant grasp a warriors mentality. which begs me the question: "what the fuck are you doing on a gaming site?"
if you bothered to actually read any of the aforementioned texts instead of slinging your ego around, you would have noticed the common thread: That the strong, physically, mentally, and socially, have an OBLIGATION to the weak. I was given my strength for a reason, whether by God or Fate.

If you're a warrior, why the fuck are you on a gaming site? I think the Escapist favors people who can think, aside from the types that bash eachothers brains out with sticks.

Warriors are just told they're noble, so they don't question why they're fighting. For that same reason, they throw rocks at people who can think.

I hope you make your vassal proud.

It is the duty of every warrior to question the actions of their lords. once again, you haven't actually read the book, you just criticize what you think is true. you have set up an illusion based on the reality you desire, which makes anyone bigger and stronger than you the bad guy.
and if you don't think being a warrior ((which is more of a mindset of conquering goals and objectives and trying to help people than anything else)) and being a gamer go together I ask you why so many games have fighting? or have legendary exemplar warrior characters as their heroes?
see you betray yourself by your necessity to comment on my idea instead of just saying what you believe. and anything that does not agree with you must be wrong.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

I was quite aware of that, good sir; My post was merely sarcastic and comedic as if to reflect the abscense of morals completely, for me.

So you're okay with liars, theft, embezzling politicians, pyro-necro-pedophilia, and talking in the theater?

What part of "sarcastic and comedic" didn't you understand?

But yes, I'm okay with all of those, except that last one.

I missed the "as if."

 

[EeveeElectro]

They went out the window years ago- no! Emilee, be serious!
I was seriously considering going Vegetarian, mainly because the thought of eating meat repulsed me, but I decided not to, mainly because no one supported me. I only eat chicken and bacon.
Adoption before abortion, I say. Growing up, my mum, auntie and sister have all had abortions so it's been drilled into my head that they're okay, but I'm against them.
And I don't let guys touch me if we don't fully know each other. Mhmm, I sound like a prude XD

 

[Loop Stricken]

I make mine up on a situational basis and they're not beyond fluctuating mid-scenario for no apparent reason.

 

[A random person]

I believe in human happiness as our ultimate goal, so I'm a utilitarian.

If it's any indication, I though Ozymandias was either right or screwed up his prediction.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

It is the duty of every warrior to question the actions of their lords. once again, you haven't actually read the book, you just criticize what you think is true. you have set up an illusion based on the reality you desire, which makes anyone bigger and stronger than you the bad guy.
and if you don't think being a warrior ((which is more of a mindset of conquering goals and objectives and trying to help people than anything else)) and being a gamer go together I ask you why so many games have fighting? or have legendary exemplar warrior characters as their heroes?
see you betray yourself by your necessity to comment on my idea instead of just saying what you believe. and anything that does not agree with you must be wrong.

Someone's playing armchair psychologist on me. ...And I'm the one with the Freud avatar.

I've stated my beliefs. I don't like codified morality. If that hurts your feelings because you're afraid that, maybe, your precious weeaboo busido code isn't a perfect rulebook to live by, well, good. I hope you have something to think about. I like when people think about what they do.

Here's my first post on this thread:

I'm a big fan of honesty, clarity, and empathy. These values, I believe shape my morality.

I'm not big on vengeance though. I see it as a mockery of real justice. There are better ways to make things right.

Do you want to talk about that?