Morrigan's ritual in Dragon Age Origins(spoilers)

[Reincarnatedwolfgod]

I have been playing dragon age recently and I am currently at the point where I can say yes or no to doing morrigan ritual. I am most likely am going to say no because continuing the status quo of a grey warden dying to kill the archdemon seems like the safest move for the future.
I am kinda curious what other people did and why?

If I say yes then a child with an old god's soul in it will be born. The consequences of the existence of such a child is ambiguous. I seen the end of witch hunt on youtube were morrigan talks more about this child and it is still ambiguous. I kept Morrigan at the camp(as opposed to kicking her out) and used her in my party when needed but I never completely trusted her. Also Morrigan is connected Flemeth who must be scheming something involving this old god child; so it seems like bad idea to say yes. My player character did not romance her.

If I say no then I can let loghain sacrifice himself and I have no problem doing that.

The existence of this child could be good thing for the future or maybe it's bad for the future. in other words I just don't know. It would be very helpful if morrigan explained why preserving an old god is a good thing. Instead she does not explain shit and just tells you it is a good idea to preserve an old god.

I am what tvtropes calls a spoiler hound [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpoilerHound]; thus I already spoiled parts of the game my self and if you spoil something about dragon age I have not seen yet I won't care.

 

[synobal]

I'd like to think it was a bit like Kharl Drogo and with Daenerys. Though I dunno I guess Morrigan might of been more dominant. Honestly I likely put to much thought into it as well. But I've spent like 300 hours playing Dragon Age.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

If you assume her offer is on the level and her aim is to bring back one of the old gods (Who was corrupted when humans tried to enter too deep into the fade), then it could be a perfectly legitimate thing to want.

That said, based on her character and that of her mother, one can only assume they hope to gain something. Both are chaotic evil even if they are rather polite about it and both are eternally concerned with power as a means to some end. I don't see resurrecting a forgotten god as that end.

 

[alphamalet]

I didn't go through with it.

The reason I didn't is because of how betrayed I felt by Morrigan over the whole situation. She sets up this ultimatum where she will be most advantageous party, and selfishly says that she will leave if she doesn't get her way. In a word, FUCK THAT.

I think the mystery behind her ritual, if there is one, was the best thing about DA: O's ending. If you did go through with the ritual, you make a massive decision that you don't immediately see the effect of. It leaves you wondering whether or not you made the right decision, and whether or not Ferelden will face serious reprisals in the future.

If you don't go through with it, particularly if you romanced Morrigan, you are left wondering whether or not she was genuine with you for even a moment. Was this her plan the entire time? Did she hate you the entire time, and put on an act just to get her way in the end? Did she truly develop feelings for you but forced herself to run from her first true relationship outside the Wilds because of her fear of intimacy?

In my opinion, I think it's a bad idea to go through with the ritual given the nature that corruption has on people. If this sort of thing is what took down the Tevinter Imperium, then who knows what could happen next. On the subject of Morrigan, I'm really not sure what she was up to. Like I said, I romanced her and I think that she did indeed care for the Warden at the time of presenting the ultimatum, but because of their relationship she got scared and ran. She backed herself into a corner and deprived herself of happiness because of her view that love was a weakness that others would exploit. If she truly wanted nothing but to use you the entire time, with every move of hers calculated to gain her leverage, then why appear so weak and beg the warden to break off his relationship with her? Wouldn't she want to make the relationship as strong as possible to gain a more effective way of manipulation?


Captcha: Baby Blues

You're damn right about that, Captcha.

 

[Leighcakes]

If I say no then I can let loghain sacrifice himself and I have no problem doing that.

First playthrough: No ritual, told Loghain where to stick it. Then realied that Alistair would have to die. Cried like a baby.

Second playthrough: No ritual, told Loghain to stay, Alistair left because of this, my character became king and Loghain died. (win-win. I hated Loghain.)

Third playthrough: Ritual time! Told Loghain to shove it (again), no one died in final battle, my character and Alistair ruled Fereldon together.

Those were my choices - entirely depends what you want for your ending, really. Either way the end is the end - it's not like Fable 3 where you can doss about making money and having ridiculous amounts of children afterwards. Personally I'll always chose Alistair over Loghain because I'm far too much of a fangirl.

 

[mad825]

The existence of this child could be good thing for the future or maybe it's bad for the future.
It would be very helpful if morrigan explained why preserving an old god is a good thing. Instead she does not explain shit and just tells you it is a good idea to preserve an old god.

Well, this is highly depended on what David Gaider and his team decide on the ripple it may cause. Daivd himself did mention on the forums it isn't going to have any major effect, or at least it cannot be too big because of new players.

I.E the dark ritual happens regardless of your choice and references to the gray warden are made if you did choose or the god does/doesn't get born and morrigan says something about it, if was born, god child becomes a minor NPC.

 

[eimatshya]

I figured that Morrigan was pretty much the last person I would trust to raise a god, so I said no.

That said, I thought the ritual was a neat touch, story wise. It had that ancient legend feel to it.

 

[RJ 17]

Really it doesn't particularly matter what you chose (at least it most likely won't matter). Neither Morrigan nor the god-child show up in DA2, and they'll likely just ret-con the child into existence in DA3 even if you load it with a file where you kicked her out of the camp or refused the ritual in DA:O

I mean hell, if Lelianna can magically grow her head back to appear at the end of DA2 after I lopped it off in DA:O, who's to say Morrigan can't go all Virgin Mary and have a baby that was never actually conceived?

So do what you want, just know that if you do turn her down she turns into a cat and buggers off, so I hope you're not wanting to use her as your black magic user for the final big battle through Denerim.

Edit: Here's a fun fact, though: throughout the entire game she....never actually does anything that would earn distrust. People say she's coldhearted and wicked, but she's not: she's just EXTREMELY practical, kinda like Sten in a way. Sure she was raised by Flemmeth but she doesn't trust her mother any more than anyone else does. When you first meet her, she happily and without hesitation takes you to where the scrolls you need are being kept. Still, a lot of people seem to view her with a lot of distrust.

I will admit, suddenly approaching you and saying "Yeah, I wanna give birth to a child that will have all the powers of an old god" is a bit shady...but beyond that, she's essentially a model party member. :3

 

[Souplex]

Anything Morrigan or Flemeth planned is bad juju.
In my ending, the Anvil was preserved, Bhelen is king, Alistair is the less important king, Anora is queen, Loghain redeems himself by sacrificing himself to kill the Archdemon, and Warden Aeducan brought a large army back to Orzimarr.
Pretty much the perfect ending.

 

[mad825]

Here's a fun fact, though: throughout the entire game she....never actually does anything that would earn distrust. People say she's coldhearted and wicked, but she's not: she's just EXTREMELY practical, kinda like Sten in a way. Sure she was raised by Flemmeth but she doesn't trust her mother any more than anyone else does. When you first meet her, she happily and without hesitation takes you to where the scrolls you need are being kept. Still, a lot of people seem to view her with a lot of distrust.

If I remember correctly, it has to do with more of Morrigan's origin than anything else. The Korcari Wilds apparently have an infamous reputation for apostate mages and the legend of Flemeth thus the nickname "witch of the wilds" to which Morrigan was accused of on her first appearance.

*shrug*

I don't read any of the books.

 

[Kurt Cristal]

Didn't realize the endings varied so greatly. Anyway I was playing as a girl so I had to convince Alistair to do it. And since I was a a cheeky character, I immediately chose the "Guess what? Your dreams come true! Sex with Morrigan!" option, he was all "No way, thx". Ah well, good show. Time to sacrifice myself for the greater good then!

 

[redmoretrout]

I've only completed the game once, and I chose that end it with Morrigan's ritual. Because I was playing a reckless mage, who would sacrifice just about anything to sate his curiosity.

What if you do sacrifice yourself how does the expansion pack explain your character coming back from the dead?

 

[Mossberg Shotty]

Who cares about the consequences? You get to have sex with Morrigan!

Ok well, keep in mind that her intentions aren't known to be evil, she might have something totally benign in mind for her dragon spawn. Probably not, but you never know. If you haven't been romantically involved with her up to this point, then it's probably not a good time to start.

If you've been with her all this time, you might as well go through with it.

 

[Souplex]

What if you do sacrifice yourself how does the expansion pack explain your character coming back from the dead?

In Awakening, if you sacrificed yourself or don't import an origins file, you play an Orlessian warden who was sent in to help rebuild Ferelden's Wardens.
Not sure about the other DLCs.

 

[Newby_Newb]

In Awakening, if you sacrificed yourself or don't import an origins file, you play an Orlessian warden who was sent in to help rebuild Ferelden's Wardens.
Not sure about the other DLCs.

If you import a save into Awakening where you sacrificed yourself, you will still play him. The game will ignore your characters death.

The only way to play as an orlesian warden is to not import a save.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

If you assume her offer is on the level and her aim is to bring back one of the old gods (Who was corrupted when humans tried to enter too deep into the fade), then it could be a perfectly legitimate thing to want.

That said, based on her character and that of her mother, one can only assume they hope to gain something. Both are chaotic evil even if they are rather polite about it and both are eternally concerned with power as a means to some end. I don't see resurrecting a forgotten god as that end.

Throw in the fact that we know that they have access to body possession magic and there are some very disturbing implications. You can't trust a word that Morrigan says at the end. Conceiving the baby was just too much of a risk for me.

 

[Drauger]

I did the ritual............ almost in every playtrough ._., Morrigan is my favorite party member, even when I choose another party member I went ritual cause, hey I don't wanna see my team mates die.

I didn't knew Morrigan was so "hated" as I stated before she is my favorite party member, at least in women department we have, a old preachy hag and Leliana .... she's cool but kinda loony sometimes, soo........ Morrigan FTW xD, I really expect to see my choices mater in DA3..... also hope to see lots of skin/armor mods.

You sir made me start playing DAO again ...XD

 

[votemarvel]

I always refuse the ritual because I prefer the endings where the Warden dies.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I did the ritual............ almost in every playtrough ._., Morrigan is my favorite party member, even when I choose another party member I went ritual cause, hey I don't wanna see my team mates die.

I didn't knew Morrigan was so "hated" as I stated before she is my favorite party member, at least in women department we have, a old preachy hag and Leliana .... she's cool but kinda loony sometimes, soo........ Morrigan FTW xD, I really expect to see my choices mater in DA3..... also hope to see lots of skin/armor mods.

You sir made me start playing DAO again ...XD

I romanced her and she was my third favorite character. It doesn't change the fact that she kept her actual mission secret for the entire game and then tried to manipulate you into giving her an Old God.

 

[Exius Xavarus]

Here's a fun fact, though: throughout the entire game she....never actually does anything that would earn distrust. People say she's coldhearted and wicked, but she's not: she's just EXTREMELY practical, kinda like Sten in a way. Sure she was raised by Flemmeth but she doesn't trust her mother any more than anyone else does. When you first meet her, she happily and without hesitation takes you to where the scrolls you need are being kept. Still, a lot of people seem to view her with a lot of distrust.

I will admit, suddenly approaching you and saying "Yeah, I wanna give birth to a child that will have all the powers of an old god" is a bit shady...but beyond that, she's essentially a model party member. :3

This is what I wanted to say, but better said.

I went through with he ritual. I was a male Noble Human that was romantically involved with Morrigan throughout the whole game. I fell in love with her and I trusted her. Whatever people say, I don't believe Morrigan is actually evil. Darkness is not inherently evil. She was reluctant at the beginning, but she goes with you on your journey to save Fereldan, come what may. She stays and gives her all to help you, even when she disagrees. Morrigan was and is my favorite party member to have along. At the end of Witch Hunt, I still wanted to leave everything else behind and go with her.

Spoiler

And I did.