Mortal Kombat Kreator Konfirms Next Kombat Will Be M-Rated
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I've always liked MK games but I, and seemingly many others, lament them for being... well, a bit wank in the later incarnations.
I've always liked MK games but I, and seemingly many others, lament them for being... well, a bit wank in the later incarnations.
Seriously, what happened to Kano's oldie-but-goodie Heart Rip?
I don't know how they could really top some of the fatalities in the MK games. Jax's head smash, Kano's heart rip, and undoubtedly my favorite, Kabal's "blender". He literally rushes past the opponent, causing them to spin wildly, then uses his hooksword and cuts them right down the middle.
I don't know how they could really top some of the fatalities in the MK games. Jax's head smash, Kano's heart rip, and undoubtedly my favorite, Kabal's "blender". He literally rushes past the opponent, causing them to spin wildly, then uses his hooksword and cuts them right down the middle.
Meh,
People are going to read into this what they want to hear. As a pessimist it sounds like Mr. Boon is trying to sound optimistic for his fans but in reality is toeing the line. He apparently wants to make an M rated title to hopefully restore the fan base a bit, but at the same token he's apparently worried about taking things too far and upsetting anyone since he talks about there being a line even for Mortal Kombat, and actually invokes fear of an AO rating (smoke what?) which is in of itself a sign that censorship/the ESRB has gone too far.
Simply put you can't become AO rated over violence. It's been tried (mostly with movies) it doesn't stand up. Even the more successful campaigns that were temporary successes (like Europe's "Video Nasties") ultimatly failed big time. Though admittedly Hollywood showed a degree of spine that game companies/producers have yet to develop.
Generally speaking, from waaaay back when I was in school I seem to remember a very clear standard being mentioned. To gain an "X" (or in this case AO) rating the visual subject matter (game, movie, even painting or photo) must show sexual penetration. As in tool A fits socket B right there in front of you. This was actually extended successfully to include things like oral sex, and penetration with sex toys (dildos, strap ons, etc..) which could have been considered exceptions under the original law (which was part of the point when it was coming up, laws being amended within the original spirit).
What this means is that you can show all the nudity and simulated sex you want, and nobody can force you to take an X/AO rating, though you can choose to. When it comes to "X" it's all about the "money shots" (called that for a reason).
When it comes to violence there is no limit, and honestly that has been an issue. Private pressure (which is a problem) has done a lot where it shouldn't have been able to, but if you check out the history of horror movies and such you'll find it littered with attempts to ban movies or get them rated X for violence or mere "subject matter". Any successes on the subject when met with proper defense have been temporary at the best. Movies like say "Cannibal Holocaust" are noteworthy for this... and honestly just because movies are older does not mean they did not involve shock trends like you see today. There are some movies that can be considered pretty "over the top" that aren't exactly new. Also things like the Binoculars Scene from the old Vincent Price "Horror OF The Wax Museum" (I think that's the title) are messed up in any "era".
I wish Mr. Boon the best, but honestly if he's going into this "toeing the line as close as he can to avoid an AO rating", I wouldn't expect that much. Right from the beginning it shows he's intentionally trying not to shock people enough to get attention (other than fan hype) and is more likely to run from the threat of an AO rating that actually saying "go for it" and then duking it out in court on principle to maintain the proper interpetation of "R/M" and "X/AO".
I know many might disagree, this is simply my opinion, and how I've learned things over the years.
>>>----Therumancer--->
People are going to read into this what they want to hear. As a pessimist it sounds like Mr. Boon is trying to sound optimistic for his fans but in reality is toeing the line. He apparently wants to make an M rated title to hopefully restore the fan base a bit, but at the same token he's apparently worried about taking things too far and upsetting anyone since he talks about there being a line even for Mortal Kombat, and actually invokes fear of an AO rating (smoke what?) which is in of itself a sign that censorship/the ESRB has gone too far.
Simply put you can't become AO rated over violence. It's been tried (mostly with movies) it doesn't stand up. Even the more successful campaigns that were temporary successes (like Europe's "Video Nasties") ultimatly failed big time. Though admittedly Hollywood showed a degree of spine that game companies/producers have yet to develop.
Generally speaking, from waaaay back when I was in school I seem to remember a very clear standard being mentioned. To gain an "X" (or in this case AO) rating the visual subject matter (game, movie, even painting or photo) must show sexual penetration. As in tool A fits socket B right there in front of you. This was actually extended successfully to include things like oral sex, and penetration with sex toys (dildos, strap ons, etc..) which could have been considered exceptions under the original law (which was part of the point when it was coming up, laws being amended within the original spirit).
What this means is that you can show all the nudity and simulated sex you want, and nobody can force you to take an X/AO rating, though you can choose to. When it comes to "X" it's all about the "money shots" (called that for a reason).
When it comes to violence there is no limit, and honestly that has been an issue. Private pressure (which is a problem) has done a lot where it shouldn't have been able to, but if you check out the history of horror movies and such you'll find it littered with attempts to ban movies or get them rated X for violence or mere "subject matter". Any successes on the subject when met with proper defense have been temporary at the best. Movies like say "Cannibal Holocaust" are noteworthy for this... and honestly just because movies are older does not mean they did not involve shock trends like you see today. There are some movies that can be considered pretty "over the top" that aren't exactly new. Also things like the Binoculars Scene from the old Vincent Price "Horror OF The Wax Museum" (I think that's the title) are messed up in any "era".
I wish Mr. Boon the best, but honestly if he's going into this "toeing the line as close as he can to avoid an AO rating", I wouldn't expect that much. Right from the beginning it shows he's intentionally trying not to shock people enough to get attention (other than fan hype) and is more likely to run from the threat of an AO rating that actually saying "go for it" and then duking it out in court on principle to maintain the proper interpetation of "R/M" and "X/AO".
I know many might disagree, this is simply my opinion, and how I've learned things over the years.
>>>----Therumancer--->
Even the old Mortal Kombats had the arcade machine drop from the sky. That's a staple fatality.Keane Ng said:
Also, it's not the M to T rating change that's doing Mortal Kombat in. I think it has more to do that mortal kombat is becoming one of the least popular 3-D games, and people are getting kinda sick of seeing the same thing. The transition from 2-D to 3-D wasn't a smooth one for Midway and they've really never done much with the formula since the switch. There's not a whole lot of evolution with the games and the fighting is no longer fluid and in your face.
To me, the Mortal Kombat games were at a paramount at Mortal Kombat Trilogy and will probably never even come close to it again.
Ladies and gentlemen, we now present you with the sound of Ed Boon making a Mortal Kombat announcement. We will follow it immediately with the sound of no one giving a damn.
There might be fighting games out there that aren't ridiculously broken [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjSVZ1olTrE] but Mortal Kombat ain't it.
I understand it's a game that's supposed to be more about the violence than winning but god damn it if you can break a game that quickly, it deserves to be forgotten. The 3D Mortal Kombats are even more broken in that respect.
I understand it's a game that's supposed to be more about the violence than winning but god damn it if you can break a game that quickly, it deserves to be forgotten. The 3D Mortal Kombats are even more broken in that respect.
Shaolin Monks was a good game that deserves a sequel. If they want to make another MK game, they should go in that direction with the series.
Of kourse not, silly! If they made Scorpion into Skorpion, people might konfuse him with the sub-machine gun of the same name, which would be absurd! Then the Skorpion would be thought to be an objekt of Win, while they thought Scorpion was a krap character who is weak and has massive amount of rekoil!Vern said:
I think the main selling point of the game will be that, for the first time, there will be proper fatalities in a current-gen game. I'm not going to wet my pants for that kind of game, but I'm looking forward to it because it'll probably turn out to be an over-the-top game that's fun to play with friends.The Rogue Wolf said:
That being said, have AO games even been sold at retail before? If not, then I guess it makes sense, because they would actually like to make, well, money. And that is something they haven't seen in a long time.Keane Ng said:
I agree, that was a great game, even better with a friend.Samurai Goomba said:
That picture is awesome!
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