Mortal Kombat X Release Date, Goro Pre-Order DLC Revealed

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Absolutionis

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As usual, this pre-order DLC only convinces me to not only wait for reviews of the game to come out, but then wait for the complete version of the game to come out once it's no-doubt reduced in price.

Good luck getting Mortal Kombat accepted by the fighting community in the meanwhile.
 
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Absolutionis said:
As usual, this pre-order DLC only convinces me to not only wait for reviews of the game to come out, but then wait for the complete version of the game to come out once it's no-doubt reduced in price.

Good luck getting Mortal Kombat accepted by the fighting community in the meanwhile.
You do realize that the last Mortal Kombat game already kind of got accepted by said fighting community, right? There was a tournament held at EVO 2011, and it's made an appearance at every EVO since. I'd say that getting it accepted by the fighting community is not an issue.
 

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Newsflash: any content that was developed and finished prior to the game's release is the same thing as content ripped from the main game. It's the same fucking thing.
No it really isn't. Goro is a character that is pretty much never a playable character. He's pretty much always a boss character. This is a DLC that has no impact on the main game. Assassin's Creed 2 ripping a few memory sequences from the main story and selling it later as DLC is bad, Metro Last Light locking a difficulty level is bad, but 1 additional character is fine.

People getting angry at this or Alien Isolation's pre order DLC are some of the most entitled people I've seen. The base game and initial set up is what got you hooked, it's what they promised would be on the disc from the get go. You're not entitled to having every speck of work that has been made as an after thought/addition to the main base game. Just because they begin working on it before the actual game is released does not mean it's content that SHOULD be on the disc.
 

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RealRT said:
Harry Mason said:
Preorders will gain exclusive access to the FUCKING GAME THEY PURCHASED? Wow. Imagine that!

I wonder if I preorder Bayonetta 2 if they'll give me access to Bayonet-AAARGH HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL GETTING AWAY WITH THIS CRAP?
And the award for the stupidest comment ever and completely missing the point goes to...
Seriously. People are upset because the publisher holds a character hostage for preorders. That's a good reason to be upset about.
In a fighting game, the characters ARE the game. My post was very clearly anti-preorder-character-hostage shenanigans.

I'm pretty sure you just agreed with me, but decided to be insulting about it for some reason.
 

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Well that confirms me not buying this game . Dlc is one thing ( and i don't even support that, sorry dark souls 2), but needing to pre-order a game to get a character for a FIGHTING GAME? Nope, not doing it.
 

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thebobmaster said:
Absolutionis said:
As usual, this pre-order DLC only convinces me to not only wait for reviews of the game to come out, but then wait for the complete version of the game to come out once it's no-doubt reduced in price.

Good luck getting Mortal Kombat accepted by the fighting community in the meanwhile.
You do realize that the last Mortal Kombat game already kind of got accepted by said fighting community, right? There was a tournament held at EVO 2011, and it's made an appearance at every EVO since. I'd say that getting it accepted by the fighting community is not an issue.
You mean the EVO 2011 that banned all DLC characters?

http://www.giantbomb.com/evo-championship-series/3015-7054/forums/evo-2011-news-schedule-dates-and-times-all-mk9-dlc-505475/

I guess I did indeed forget. Still seems like an awful way to appeal to the fighting game community.
 

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Damn, I actually wanted to get this one day one. I guess now I'll have to wait and get it further down the line (when it comes with all of the DLC) so that my purchase won't be supporting this anti-consumer practice.
 

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Absolutionis said:
You mean the EVO 2011 that banned all DLC characters?

http://www.giantbomb.com/evo-championship-series/3015-7054/forums/evo-2011-news-schedule-dates-and-times-all-mk9-dlc-505475/

I guess I did indeed forget. Still seems like an awful way to appeal to the fighting game community.
Don't understand why you think that is relevant. DLC/Exclusive characters being banned is the norm
EVO doesn't support those practices... but they'd support yearly releases if they happened so just saying so you don't get the wrong idea.
 

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I simply do not get the hate for pre-order bonuses. They cost you, wait for it, nothing. All you have to do is say, "I'd like to put five dollars towards this game I intend to purchase in the future."[footnote]Unless you're pre-purchasing from Steam or Origin or another digital distribution service, but that's a whole other can of worms.[/footnote] You don't spend a dime more than you would for the base game, so what's the fuss?

Nintendo pulls this kind of stuff all the time, and no one raises hell over it. Shiny Beldum in the Generation 3 remakes, anyone? I just don't understand why this tiny thing tacked on at the end is like the seal of Satan's letters.
 

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Damn, I actually wanted to get this one day one. I guess now I'll have to wait and get it further down the line (when it comes with all of the DLC) so that my purchase won't be supporting this anti-consumer practice.
You know that will change nothing. IGC sign: If DLC wins, we riot. Reality: If DLC wins, we whine on the internet...and will watch the product anyway.

DLC is over with management and the majority of people brother jack dude. They ain't depushing someone who is white hot after going over Expansion pack. DLC simply sells too much merch to be sent down the card.
 

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Yet more reasons that gaming is becoming more irrelevant to me. I'm just beefed with the fact they game doesn't come out until next year and already DLC is being talked about.
 

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I got the previous Mortal Kombat and all they did was have some exclusive skins, DLC characters came later, but locking a character off, no thanks. Won't be getting it day one most likely (Depends on if I have a PS4 by then as well, but this does not help.) since that's cutting real content.
 

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Harry Mason said:
RealRT said:
Harry Mason said:
Preorders will gain exclusive access to the FUCKING GAME THEY PURCHASED? Wow. Imagine that!

I wonder if I preorder Bayonetta 2 if they'll give me access to Bayonet-AAARGH HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL GETTING AWAY WITH THIS CRAP?
And the award for the stupidest comment ever and completely missing the point goes to...
Seriously. People are upset because the publisher holds a character hostage for preorders. That's a good reason to be upset about.
In a fighting game, the characters ARE the game. My post was very clearly anti-preorder-character-hostage shenanigans.

I'm pretty sure you just agreed with me, but decided to be insulting about it for some reason.
Then the award for the stupidest comment ever AND completely missing the point goes to me. Sorry there, mate.
 

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bug_of_war said:
RealRT said:
Newsflash: any content that was developed and finished prior to the game's release is the same thing as content ripped from the main game. It's the same fucking thing.
No it really isn't. Goro is a character that is pretty much never a playable character. He's pretty much always a boss character. This is a DLC that has no impact on the main game. Assassin's Creed 2 ripping a few memory sequences from the main story and selling it later as DLC is bad, Metro Last Light locking a difficulty level is bad, but 1 additional character is fine.

People getting angry at this or Alien Isolation's pre order DLC are some of the most entitled people I've seen. The base game and initial set up is what got you hooked, it's what they promised would be on the disc from the get go. You're not entitled to having every speck of work that has been made as an after thought/addition to the main base game. Just because they begin working on it before the actual game is released does not mean it's content that SHOULD be on the disc.
As a guy below said, in a fighting game characters are the game. And they clearly planned this all from the beginning, I well damn guarantee you that Goro is on disc. I'm okay with paying extra for extra content - but not for the things they ripped out of the game. This is the equivalent to Mass Effect 3's prothean character.
 

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As a guy below said, in a fighting game characters are the game. And they clearly planned this all from the beginning, I well damn guarantee you that Goro is on disc. I'm okay with paying extra for extra content - but not for the things they ripped out of the game. This is the equivalent to Mass Effect 3's prothean character.
Of course characters are planned, but in the story and in game Goro is supposed to be much tougher and deal higher damage than other characters. This character is not essential for the game, it adds no weight in the grand scheme of things. It's essentially a character for fans whom know what his presence is. As for the Prothean, I didn't find that bullshit either as it was content for fans. Him not being in the main story had no impact on how it unfolded, it was basically just more back story, which is nice but necessary.

If this is such an offence to you, wait till the MKX Komplete Edition comes out so as that you don't have to pay for it all or pre order it.
 

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bug_of_war said:
RealRT said:
As a guy below said, in a fighting game characters are the game. And they clearly planned this all from the beginning, I well damn guarantee you that Goro is on disc. I'm okay with paying extra for extra content - but not for the things they ripped out of the game. This is the equivalent to Mass Effect 3's prothean character.
Of course characters are planned, but in the story and in game Goro is supposed to be much tougher and deal higher damage than other characters. This character is not essential for the game, it adds no weight in the grand scheme of things. It's essentially a character for fans whom know what his presence is. As for the Prothean, I didn't find that bullshit either as it was content for fans. Him not being in the main story had no impact on how it unfolded, it was basically just more back story, which is nice but necessary.

If this is such an offence to you, wait till the MKX Komplete Edition comes out so as that you don't have to pay for it all or pre order it.
He also is supposed to be much slower, as per traditional fighting game rules. As for the prothean, 90% of files of him were in the main game, people could activate him with a save file. And he was just as important as, say, Garrus or Vega. Hell, I remember that one cutscene in London in which Shepard gives the final speech to his party members and there's this one random soldier guy hanging around and I was wondering what the fuck is he doing there and then I understood that he was a stand-in for Javik - and he was - and it's so distracting and jarring and sloppy as hell. Javik was obviously going to be in the main game, but then EA said "Nope! Pre-order bonus! Or buy him with those bullshit BioWare points". Here I see the same damn thing. You know what would be a better pre-order bonus? Something that's bloody unimportant. Like, you know, klassic costumes, something they did with the previous game. That was harmless. Because costumes are extras, characters are very much not.
And yeah, that's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to keep complaining. To let them know why I am doing that, because I'm pretty sure community managers monitor sites and look for reactions.
 

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"Gamers who pre-order ... will be privy to an exclusive DLC character...Players interested ... will have plenty of options when it comes to pre-ordering the game."

See this? This is NOT what DLC is made for. The game is still a ways out from release (so you can't use the "disc has gone gold" defense). I know there's the argument about waiting for GOTY edition. I am just morally opposed to having such content gated off behind a pay wall ("DLC" is likely a 5MB unlock code). What if the game never gets traction? Not likely to happen here, but still...other games have been subject to this particular issue, and their DLC remains inaccessible.

Another point: on Dragon Age 2, my preorder got screwed (this can happen from store closings, database mixups, or any number of things). When I went in to renew my preorder, I had lost the ability to get the free upgrade for the DLC. I refused to pay extra for something that should have been free. As a result, I still have yet to buy the game. So, Bioware never got my money for DA2 (borrowed from a friend), and I was perfectly willing to give it to them.

All these arguments have been made before. However, this particular event proves to me that Netherrealms has now fallen prey to the same practices Capcom is known for. This, combined with the rip-off that was the Season Pass for "Injustice," and I refuse to buy their games at launch anymore. So many more things I could say right now...but those who agree with me understand, and those who don't won't care anyway...
 

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RealRT said:
Harry Mason said:
RealRT said:
Harry Mason said:
Preorders will gain exclusive access to the FUCKING GAME THEY PURCHASED? Wow. Imagine that!

I wonder if I preorder Bayonetta 2 if they'll give me access to Bayonet-AAARGH HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL GETTING AWAY WITH THIS CRAP?
And the award for the stupidest comment ever and completely missing the point goes to...
Seriously. People are upset because the publisher holds a character hostage for preorders. That's a good reason to be upset about.
In a fighting game, the characters ARE the game. My post was very clearly anti-preorder-character-hostage shenanigans.

I'm pretty sure you just agreed with me, but decided to be insulting about it for some reason.
Then the award for the stupidest comment ever AND completely missing the point goes to me. Sorry there, mate.
It's all good, man. As long as we all agree holding characters hostage to squeeze more money out of gamers is a douche move.
 

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He also is supposed to be much slower, as per traditional fighting game rules. As for the prothean, 90% of files of him were in the main game, people could activate him with a save file. And he was just as important as, say, Garrus or Vega. Hell, I remember that one cutscene in London in which Shepard gives the final speech to his party members and there's this one random soldier guy hanging around and I was wondering what the fuck is he doing there and then I understood that he was a stand-in for Javik - and he was - and it's so distracting and jarring and sloppy as hell. Javik was obviously going to be in the main game, but then EA said "Nope! Pre-order bonus! Or buy him with those bullshit BioWare points". Here I see the same damn thing. You know what would be a better pre-order bonus? Something that's bloody unimportant. Like, you know, klassic costumes, something they did with the previous game. That was harmless. Because costumes are extras, characters are very much not.
And yeah, that's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to keep complaining. To let them know why I am doing that, because I'm pretty sure community managers monitor sites and look for reactions.
Personally I thought the Prothean character was not really required to fully enjoy the game. I played it without him and then with him, and whilst he added a nice perspective, I still didn't really feel as though the game without him was lacking. Even on the weeks coming up to ME3 I wasn't really angry or jealous about not having him as a character because I felt as though that would make my story different from a mate whom did get the DLC. It was actually quite fun discussing the differences between our two playthroughs.

Now, if say Mortal Kombat X made Scorpion, Sub Zero, Sonya Blade, Johnny Cage, Raiden or Liu Kang pre order DLC, than I woulod be right there with you complaining. But because he's never been a main playable character I really don't feel as though I'm being ripped off. I mean, I'm gonna give them money eventually anyway, they've proven (to me at least) that they're quite capable of making high quality, fun and entertaining content, so why is it so bad for them to say, "Look, if you give us the cash now, you can have this nice little bonus"? Music festivals often have a sorta "pre purchase tickets now for better seats, goodie bag etc.", same with movies, novels, art exhibitions, sport events etc.

As far as I'm concerned, this particular incident is nothing bad. They've proved they can make a good fighting game, the content itself whilst nice is nothing that will leave the game lacking if not purchased, and at least I'm guaranteed a copy when it's released! (No, seriously, all the retail shops (both game specific and general) in my area have such low quantities of stock for PS4 games that it's actually becoming a requirement for me to pre order now (took me a while to get AC:Black Flag, Last of Us Remastered and Watch Dogs).
 

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Hmph, making a staple character into DLC? Never much cared about Goro, but this just feels a bit off. Next thing you know, Kung Lao and Raiden are unlockable only by DLC, and all you will download is a redemption code because all the character assets were already in the software you bought.