Most annoying things about school
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Physical education as a mandated class.
Some people like sports and that's great, all the best to them! I just don't find a drop of pleasure in undressing in a room full of smelly guys, running around freezing cold (I live in the UK), playing a sport I have zero interest in, get dressed in an even smellier room and then go back to class caked in mud and sweat!
All in the name of reducing childhood obesity. Which lets be honest, isn't the way to do it! Chubby to fat kids hate physical activity, are really embarrassed by getting changed in front of people and an hour a week (spread into two 30 mins on different days) isn't going to do shit to the weight ... especially when they are probably shoveling chips and a pizza slice down their gullet every day!
Some people like sports and that's great, all the best to them! I just don't find a drop of pleasure in undressing in a room full of smelly guys, running around freezing cold (I live in the UK), playing a sport I have zero interest in, get dressed in an even smellier room and then go back to class caked in mud and sweat!
All in the name of reducing childhood obesity. Which lets be honest, isn't the way to do it! Chubby to fat kids hate physical activity, are really embarrassed by getting changed in front of people and an hour a week (spread into two 30 mins on different days) isn't going to do shit to the weight ... especially when they are probably shoveling chips and a pizza slice down their gullet every day!
Having six lessons a day just irritates me. What is the point of lessons which only last fifty minutes? They barely give time for preparation and the thought of "well I have four lessons to go" at eleven in the morning is just boring. Granted I know six is probably standard in many places but I spent primary and most of secondary school having less than that (hell in Year 7 we had three lessons a day which was either the worst thing ever or the best thing ever).
I would say PE, but the teachers have stopped trying to get me to bother. There are some annoyances with it. If you don't want to shout at me for missing the football or not hitting it perfectly, don't hit it to me, you don't have to.
I would say PE, but the teachers have stopped trying to get me to bother. There are some annoyances with it. If you don't want to shout at me for missing the football or not hitting it perfectly, don't hit it to me, you don't have to.
If you don't like group assignments, avoid The University of Phoenix like the plague. A large part of your grade is based on team assignments which means a large # of students who pass the classes do so only because they are mostly being graded on team assignments. It was understandable while I was getting my AA and BA, but students working on the Masters who would turn in papers you wouldn't expect to see in middle school...in almost every class. It was crazy. Being a perfectionist I would work 3x longer incorporating the other students work into our team assignments, but making it actually look good, then I would have spent just doing it myself.
Ended up with a 3.97 GPA...so close to a 4.0 sigh.
I found public schools so worthless as a kid that I ended up working as a janitor so I could go to a private school using the P.A.C.E program. That let me graduate 3 years early (on my 16th birthday actually). I had a full scholarship to college but didn't use it, went to a vocational school to be an electronic tech in 9 months instead (while working full time on graveyard shift).
I later went back to school to get my teaching degree and actually try and fix the problem in our school system directly (by being a teacher). Sadly the problem isn't fixed that easily, as new teachers can often have a very hard time getting hired. I did end up teaching briefly for most of a year since I had been volunteering at the school so they had me replace a teacher that left for the rest of the year. I actually enjoyed volunteering more then teaching though, since I had more time to work with individual students, so I went back to doing that after the year was out.
Personally think all teachers should have assistants who help with classroom management and organization so the teacher can focus more on...well teaching, and can spend time with individual students as well. Trying to help individual students in a classroom of 30+.....even with assigned seating and good discipline/classroom management skills is almost impossible.
Also, the amount teachers get paid is absolutely insane. I can make more money from home, half asleep, then you make as a teacher, and actually getting a teaching position is crazy hard if you don't have at least 2 years experience.
And the worst thing is many of the teachers that have the most experience are burnt out. It's not all their fault, so many students don't want the teachers to really challenge them, especially at the college level. The best teachers I have ever had where always disliked by the majority of the students. Enough years of complaining by students and parents can cause many teachers to just give up and phone it in (and then there where probably some that should never have been teachers in the first place).
An advantage of volunteering all over the bay area was that I had the opportunity to work with many teachers. While there where some great ones (almost every school had one or two), there was usually far more really bad ones that should not be teaching at all. Some had no classroom management skills at all, to the point I thought the students could even be in danger (Students hiding under tables, putting glue bottles in the microwave, throwing things at each other in class etc), others literally allowed NO questions (or talking) of any kind in class, just reviewing homework, having students work at their desk/take a test, and then issuing the homework for the next night).
I don't volunteer even at this point anymore, although I may do so again in the future sometime. I'll probably stick to working with after school programs with the students that actually want to learn though, and with a more open forum where you have more of a chance to help them. Working with the current public school system in America is just too frustrating.
Spent quite a bit of money and time because I really wanted to help and make a difference. I know many others who have done the same thing. The problem is, you can't just jump in and make changes, so many people who really do want to make a difference and create a enjoyable learning environment for students, are not able to do so.
Ended up with a 3.97 GPA...so close to a 4.0 sigh.
I found public schools so worthless as a kid that I ended up working as a janitor so I could go to a private school using the P.A.C.E program. That let me graduate 3 years early (on my 16th birthday actually). I had a full scholarship to college but didn't use it, went to a vocational school to be an electronic tech in 9 months instead (while working full time on graveyard shift).
I later went back to school to get my teaching degree and actually try and fix the problem in our school system directly (by being a teacher). Sadly the problem isn't fixed that easily, as new teachers can often have a very hard time getting hired. I did end up teaching briefly for most of a year since I had been volunteering at the school so they had me replace a teacher that left for the rest of the year. I actually enjoyed volunteering more then teaching though, since I had more time to work with individual students, so I went back to doing that after the year was out.
Personally think all teachers should have assistants who help with classroom management and organization so the teacher can focus more on...well teaching, and can spend time with individual students as well. Trying to help individual students in a classroom of 30+.....even with assigned seating and good discipline/classroom management skills is almost impossible.
Also, the amount teachers get paid is absolutely insane. I can make more money from home, half asleep, then you make as a teacher, and actually getting a teaching position is crazy hard if you don't have at least 2 years experience.
And the worst thing is many of the teachers that have the most experience are burnt out. It's not all their fault, so many students don't want the teachers to really challenge them, especially at the college level. The best teachers I have ever had where always disliked by the majority of the students. Enough years of complaining by students and parents can cause many teachers to just give up and phone it in (and then there where probably some that should never have been teachers in the first place).
An advantage of volunteering all over the bay area was that I had the opportunity to work with many teachers. While there where some great ones (almost every school had one or two), there was usually far more really bad ones that should not be teaching at all. Some had no classroom management skills at all, to the point I thought the students could even be in danger (Students hiding under tables, putting glue bottles in the microwave, throwing things at each other in class etc), others literally allowed NO questions (or talking) of any kind in class, just reviewing homework, having students work at their desk/take a test, and then issuing the homework for the next night).
I don't volunteer even at this point anymore, although I may do so again in the future sometime. I'll probably stick to working with after school programs with the students that actually want to learn though, and with a more open forum where you have more of a chance to help them. Working with the current public school system in America is just too frustrating.
Spent quite a bit of money and time because I really wanted to help and make a difference. I know many others who have done the same thing. The problem is, you can't just jump in and make changes, so many people who really do want to make a difference and create a enjoyable learning environment for students, are not able to do so.
Why is this such a common one, PE was a skive. I used to find numerous ways to skive off, The cross country tabathon was the best (tabbing is a UK term for smoking). They made us run around this park which I would walk half way round, have a couple of tabs and walk through the middle of it. Why they used to make us run round it when there was a perfectly good path through the middle i'll never understandomega 616 said:
We sometimes got to pick our activity and trampolining was always a good one. All the lads would go out and play football and say "hahaha you are gay for doing trampolining" I would reply "Yes its massively gay that I am in a room that is full of tits bouncing up and down while you are with a bunch of lads in small shorts?" plus it was warm and I didnt really have to do anything except dick about on a trampoline
Could this thread have been timed any better. Group projects. For me they are either major hit or major miss. This time its turning out to be a major miss.
Basically we have to make an environment in UDK. Not too bad. I'm in charge of the texturing. However I work on a Mac ergo impossible for me to work from home. Therefore I have to drive 20 minutes to school to work on the thing. However one of my team mates who I consider a close friend just basically called me out today. In front of my other friends more or less. Through a text via Group Me he said my partner and "him honestly" are thinking about giving me a bad grade for my part of the project. I've been showing them my progress. I've been doing the work and they are going to give me a bad grade? Especially when the other partner has missed a majority of the times we scheduled to meet up as a group without any explanation even though she clearly knew what time we were meeting.
Also I'm terribly sorry I can't get the some of the stuff done exactly as you demand it and exactly when. Its not like I have a life outside of school and a job that these past few weeks tends to eat up my weekends. I've about had it with both of them especially "my friend" as he just says some of the most absolute stupidest shit ever. I'll make a joke, he'll take it seriously, I'm in the room, he makes it a point to say my choice of MOBA (League) is terrible. He just tries to the general contrarian to me just to be contrary. Anyway that was a short little rant that I probably should've saved for somewhere else. However yes group projects are annoying to me for reasons like this. Also whenever they change the bsp (like the other one just did) I have to retexture the dang thing anyway so you just throw out any previous work I had just done. Kind of hard to get work done when you toss out all the work I just did.
Basically we have to make an environment in UDK. Not too bad. I'm in charge of the texturing. However I work on a Mac ergo impossible for me to work from home. Therefore I have to drive 20 minutes to school to work on the thing. However one of my team mates who I consider a close friend just basically called me out today. In front of my other friends more or less. Through a text via Group Me he said my partner and "him honestly" are thinking about giving me a bad grade for my part of the project. I've been showing them my progress. I've been doing the work and they are going to give me a bad grade? Especially when the other partner has missed a majority of the times we scheduled to meet up as a group without any explanation even though she clearly knew what time we were meeting.
Also I'm terribly sorry I can't get the some of the stuff done exactly as you demand it and exactly when. Its not like I have a life outside of school and a job that these past few weeks tends to eat up my weekends. I've about had it with both of them especially "my friend" as he just says some of the most absolute stupidest shit ever. I'll make a joke, he'll take it seriously, I'm in the room, he makes it a point to say my choice of MOBA (League) is terrible. He just tries to the general contrarian to me just to be contrary. Anyway that was a short little rant that I probably should've saved for somewhere else. However yes group projects are annoying to me for reasons like this. Also whenever they change the bsp (like the other one just did) I have to retexture the dang thing anyway so you just throw out any previous work I had just done. Kind of hard to get work done when you toss out all the work I just did.
I had a class in high school called Careers. It was actually half a class (it took half a semester, and then was replaced by another class called Civics). During this class, we were not taught a single thing that was, in any meaningful or objective way, true. We were taught the Myers-Briggs typology test (which is just a rehash of Jungian psychology - for those who don't know, Jung based his work on ESP and ghosts), a few copycats of the Myers-Briggs typology test, and an incredibly inaccurate career counselling courtesy of the government. Over the course of the half semester, no fewer than three people flipped over their desks and stormed out (I was not one of them).
I also had a Biology class in which 10% of your mark was for web design.
I also had a Biology class in which 10% of your mark was for web design.
I generally liked school because I was good at it so it was an ego boost.
I got bullied a lot though, because I was basically 'the swot'. I didn't like that so much. Putting up with that shit it why I will never take up teaching, because fuck trying to control that.
Uni is pretty much the opposite. The people are great, but the work makes me feel stupid, until I talk to other people and find its not just me.
I got bullied a lot though, because I was basically 'the swot'. I didn't like that so much. Putting up with that shit it why I will never take up teaching, because fuck trying to control that.
Uni is pretty much the opposite. The people are great, but the work makes me feel stupid, until I talk to other people and find its not just me.
I remember my computer studies class at college being full of people who either signed up because they thought it would be playing games and/or people who thought "oh computers might be handy" and decided to do an A-level course with absolutely no grasp of computers at all.
Then since the course was 90% course work and the lecturer was obviously only worried about grade stats ended up handing over the example paper to the class and told them just to copy it and the four of us who handed in our work 1 week early got marked down for presentation because we didn't spend the last 3 days drawing flowers on the cover. The four most clearly talented people got A's while the rest of class got A*'s, yeah nice one mate the people who might go on to university in that field and needed the A* you screwed for your stat's.
Then since the course was 90% course work and the lecturer was obviously only worried about grade stats ended up handing over the example paper to the class and told them just to copy it and the four of us who handed in our work 1 week early got marked down for presentation because we didn't spend the last 3 days drawing flowers on the cover. The four most clearly talented people got A's while the rest of class got A*'s, yeah nice one mate the people who might go on to university in that field and needed the A* you screwed for your stat's.
I completely agree with you. We learn for the sake of learning, no matter how unimportant it may seem at first, the fact that you CAN learn a myriad of different things should be regarded as amazing! Both students and teachers should realize that they're working together to form a whole new generation which will lead the planet one day, and not simply wasting time in a dusty classroom. It saddens me when people view certain subjects as useless (I can understand boring). We're not robots programmed to do one single thing for the rest of our lives, we need to learn about the world, in ALL its aspects.Random Argument Man said:
OT: Assholes who were just biding their time and making the people who actually DID care miserable.
The group projects, I didn't mind when I was left with all the work if I was able to set aside my pride. In fact I preferred it that way. What I hated was when my group-mates would create unnecessary amounts of extra work by over thinking the whole thing.
How everyone tried to be my friend, always asking me mundane shit they didn't care about.
In uni, I hated how the teachers would force their hippy agendas on us. Yeah sure, pollution bad, sustainability good. I don't see why that needs to be part of the criteria for a 3D modelling project.
Sport class. We had PE, which was alright because half the time we'd just do theory, but we also had sport in which we didn't actually learn a fucking thing, we just spent an entire 2 hour period (sometimes you lost your entire lunch break to catch the bus if you were doing swimming etc) playing Soccer or some shit.
How everyone tried to be my friend, always asking me mundane shit they didn't care about.
In uni, I hated how the teachers would force their hippy agendas on us. Yeah sure, pollution bad, sustainability good. I don't see why that needs to be part of the criteria for a 3D modelling project.
Sport class. We had PE, which was alright because half the time we'd just do theory, but we also had sport in which we didn't actually learn a fucking thing, we just spent an entire 2 hour period (sometimes you lost your entire lunch break to catch the bus if you were doing swimming etc) playing Soccer or some shit.
Required general education classes in college. The university is certifying you in a certain skill, and this certification should not be predicated upon completing X number of unrelated courses. Nor should it be predicated upon a total number of credits completed. These are blatant instances of money-grabbing on the part of the university, and should not be tolerated.
In general, group projects suck. I have done 100% of the work for well over half, if not fully 3/4 of all my group projects. Not because my partners were lazy(usually), but because I was able to do a better job in less time alone than with the group. Almost every instance where I haven't done all the work, I've fully regretted it.
In general, group projects suck. I have done 100% of the work for well over half, if not fully 3/4 of all my group projects. Not because my partners were lazy(usually), but because I was able to do a better job in less time alone than with the group. Almost every instance where I haven't done all the work, I've fully regretted it.
I had that happen to me several times. In one case, the guy showed up once and contributed one tiny little thing. I let the instructor know numerous times, so the other guy got no credit at all for the project(read: got an F) and I got all of it.Elfgore said:
The other guy was pissed and strangely surprised that having contributed aprox. 1% of the effort, he got a failing score. He was seriously expecting a good grade.
I wonder what happened to him.
A lot of it seemed like a huge fucking waste of time. I was ahead in math and finished the required math by sophomore year but god forbid I don't waste the precious hours of my life with either an advanced math class or a second elective. Can't have me going home early or getting a job or doing anything useful with that time, that would be preposterous. Guess I'll take a fucking pottery class.
Or Poetry. Why did that consume half the curriculum in English class from 2nd grade through high school?
That aside, just the sheer amount of time the teachers had to spend on crowd control was absurd. By high school I made it a policy to never do homework at home, save for reports and projects where it was unavoidable. I had so much time during class when the teacher was trying to shut kids up that I was able to read through the material they were supposed to be teaching in the textbook, do the homework, and start doing homework for another class if I needed. Subsequently, the classes moved at a snails pace. You could probably get at least a few weeks worth of high school history curriculum by typing "world war 2" into wikipedia and kicking around there for a half hour.
I guess the most annoying thing about school for me is just that I didn't want to be there as a whole.
Mind you, I'm talking mainly about k-12, college is definitely better about not wasting your time.
Or Poetry. Why did that consume half the curriculum in English class from 2nd grade through high school?
That aside, just the sheer amount of time the teachers had to spend on crowd control was absurd. By high school I made it a policy to never do homework at home, save for reports and projects where it was unavoidable. I had so much time during class when the teacher was trying to shut kids up that I was able to read through the material they were supposed to be teaching in the textbook, do the homework, and start doing homework for another class if I needed. Subsequently, the classes moved at a snails pace. You could probably get at least a few weeks worth of high school history curriculum by typing "world war 2" into wikipedia and kicking around there for a half hour.
I guess the most annoying thing about school for me is just that I didn't want to be there as a whole.
Mind you, I'm talking mainly about k-12, college is definitely better about not wasting your time.
You see, I can't say I hated school lunches because I always brought my own lunch every single school day...Tenkage said:
Sure, I was one of those students that didn't have to pay for school lunches and the only times I would get in those long ass lines at lunch was for either a pizza (that I would spread ketchup on) or a plain hamburger (because I never liked cheeseburgers), but even then I still brought my own lunch to school... Basically, throughout high school, I never went back into those lines ever again because I knew by the time I would have gotten a school pizza, lunch would be almost over and I would not have enough time to eat the food that I had on me before the next class period started. Even when I had two classes throughout my whole time in high school where the teacher allowed us to eat our food in class, it was still not worth those brief moments where pizza, at least, was being served at lunch and I was willing to stand in those long lines just to get a slice...
So, it was never the school lunches I hated... It was the process and the time you had to take advantage of those lunch times in general...