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Star Wars Episode 2:

If the jedi aren't allowed to love, why were two obviously consenting 19-to-20-something-year-olds sent on an all expenses paid vacation to the planet-o-love?

I think Plinkett had far more material there than he actually used.
This itself is a plot hole, because the Force is supposed to run strong in certain bloodlines (said by both Yoda and Obi-Wan in the original trilogy) and it is important for families with strong ties to the force to pass on their knowledge, then all of the sudden the Jedi have this Catholic Priest complex that they aren't supposed to marry? Yeah, the idea that there is some semblance of continuity between the original series and the prequel trilogy is silly.

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Ha, pretty much the entire series of Dragonball, Why don't trunks and goten fuse and beat the crap out of everyone? Why don't they go along with Goku when he goes off to save the galaxy with Pan, the weakest character in the universe? Why is Pan alive? Why does Gohan, the coolest character ever fall to the wayside, while the brats fuse and save the world? etc. etc.
Interesting note: Akira Toriyama, the author of DB and DBZ actually had nothing to do with GT. He had actually intended for the series to end with Gohan being born (and you can actually see that intent in the last episode of DB), but the series was doing so well, they made him keep writing more. By the time GT rolled around, Toriyama was sick of working on it and jumped ship, but the company that produced the TV series had rights to the characters, so they called in someone else to start writing it.
The series also had constant continuity problems because they had filler episodes written by other people who just made shit up at random.
 

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Its nit picking but i never bought the expliantion of what the Batmobile was suppose to be in Batman Begins. It was suppose to leap over a canyon caring a cable so a bridge could be built for troops to cross?

Okay so let me get this straight. we have a vehicle that costs several million dollars and we're going to lauch it off a fucking cliff? Isn't that a bit risky? What if the driver misses? Don't we already have trucks that can create bridges without crossing the gap?

The explination just never sat well with me. Now if you'd said that it was suppose to be a highly mobile armored scout vehicle i'd have bought it.
well it didnt need a cliff it could just jump rivers (as witnessed in the film lol). And i think it was to do with moving vehicles than people, due to the fact most soldiers are trained to cross rivers :p
actually what the movie says is that it could preform a rampless jump, which yes it did in the film. It was a bridge builder though.
 

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Its nit picking but i never bought the expliantion of what the Batmobile was suppose to be in Batman Begins. It was suppose to leap over a canyon caring a cable so a bridge could be built for troops to cross?

Okay so let me get this straight. we have a vehicle that costs several million dollars and we're going to lauch it off a fucking cliff? Isn't that a bit risky? What if the driver misses? Don't we already have trucks that can create bridges without crossing the gap?

The explination just never sat well with me. Now if you'd said that it was suppose to be a highly mobile armored scout vehicle i'd have bought it.
That is how the real military really makes bridges. It isn't a cliff, it was from one river bank to another.

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I think the story takes places over about a year. No? It's been a while I'll admit. So I agree with that in mind your point makes a loooooot of sense. Tolkien had an explanation of Eagles not meddling in human affairs too much but it was pretty.... lame.
Jesus dying on top of a tower? Yeah, lets meddle there. Billions of other people's suffering and lives on the line? No, lets pass. That Jesus guy can handle it.
gandalf was friends with the woodsmen who lived with the eagles, you see that little butterfly throughout the movies. That was him sending messages.
Things like that really should be explained in the movie. Otherwise they remain plotholes even if they were explained somewhere else(therefore me reading the books doesn't help the credibility of the movie).
 

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How did the hooker pamphlets get into the vault?
When they disguised themselves as SWAT troops, they brought the bags in with them. These were filled with hooker pamphlets.
 

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crudus said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
Its nit picking but i never bought the expliantion of what the Batmobile was suppose to be in Batman Begins. It was suppose to leap over a canyon caring a cable so a bridge could be built for troops to cross?

Okay so let me get this straight. we have a vehicle that costs several million dollars and we're going to lauch it off a fucking cliff? Isn't that a bit risky? What if the driver misses? Don't we already have trucks that can create bridges without crossing the gap?

The explination just never sat well with me. Now if you'd said that it was suppose to be a highly mobile armored scout vehicle i'd have bought it.
That is how the real military really makes bridges. It isn't a cliff, it was from one river bank to another.

If it was a river than why would it need to make a rampless jump? Couldn't it just drive across the river? and if it couldn't wouldn't you be in just as much shit if you missed the jump and your vehicale was swept up in the current? And i've seen the military use these trucks that have a claw that holds a collapsable bridge across gaps (rivers,canyons) the bridge unfolds and the claw lowers it over the gap. no jumping envolved

bahumat42 said:
crudus said:
CplDustov said:
I think the story takes places over about a year. No? It's been a while I'll admit. So I agree with that in mind your point makes a loooooot of sense. Tolkien had an explanation of Eagles not meddling in human affairs too much but it was pretty.... lame.
Jesus dying on top of a tower? Yeah, lets meddle there. Billions of other people's suffering and lives on the line? No, lets pass. That Jesus guy can handle it.
gandalf was friends with the woodsmen who lived with the eagles, you see that little butterfly throughout the movies. That was him sending messages.
Things like that really should be explained in the movie. Otherwise they remain plotholes even if they were explained somewhere else(therefore me reading the books doesn't help the credibility of the movie).
 

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Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever

The FBI - an organization intended to work within the United States - is somehow working in Vancouver, Canada.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
crudus said:
How did the hooker pamphlets get into the vault?
When they disguised themselves as SWAT troops, they brought the bags in with them. These were filled with hooker pamphlets.
Nope, SWAT got there after the bags came up the elevator. They were getting there as the bags were leaving.
 

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2. How can those tree huggers kill a tank unless with those animals, not even bullets can take out a tank, easy... next!
He was refering to the transports I assume, which, if/when they fell, may just fuck up the tank and it's crew.

I still think the most glaring plothole in the movie was the way everything just united against the humans, though.
Yeah I guess you will need a distraction force, but as long as there is a even terrain path to their base, the humans are A-OK
 

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sketch_zeppelin said:
That is how the real military really makes bridges. It isn't a cliff, it was from one river bank to another.

If it was a river than why would it need to make a rampless jump? Couldn't it just drive across the river? and if it couldn't wouldn't you be in just as much shit if you missed the jump and your vehicale was swept up in the current? And i've seen the military use these trucks that have a claw that holds a collapsable bridge across gaps (rivers,canyons) the bridge unfolds and the claw lowers it over the gap. no jumping envolved
Yes, because that truck would have been good for the flow of an action movie. Anyway, last time I have had bridge building explained to me by an Army vet was when I was 5-6 years ago and last time I saw Batman begins was about the same time. If I see it again I can tell you but I am not willing to put that much effort into explaining a plot hole.

bahumat42 said:
dude you saw how long those movies were
did you want more runtime lol
and aside from that i thoguht the little cuts focusing on the butterfly should of been enough tbh, they didnt stick it in there for nothing :p
Just showing butterflies doesn't do anything for someone who doesn't know what they symbolize. Personally, I assumed they were symbolizing Gandolf going to his happy place to think or something like that.
 

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Ummm... Anakin Skywalker has neither a brother named Owen, not a sister named Beru. Nor even the the common sense to look in the phone book from his home planet ...for 18 years!
 

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Why trust just ONE terminator to do the job. She barley killed one so just send in 5 or 6 to do the job better. And why not kill Sarah when she is no threat at all. A.K.A. When she's 5! There are so many point to exploit.
 

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crudus said:
Soviet Heavy said:
crudus said:
How did the hooker pamphlets get into the vault?
When they disguised themselves as SWAT troops, they brought the bags in with them. These were filled with hooker pamphlets.
Nope, SWAT got there after the bags came up the elevator. They were getting there as the bags were leaving.
Hmm, wait, when the SWAT team left, they put the bags in the van that drove to the airport right? When that van exploded, the bags were filled with the pamphlets. When Brad Pitt's character set off the explosion in the vault while dressed as a SWAT member, whats to say he didn't just leave one of the bags down there?
 

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Death God said:
Why trust just ONE terminator to do the job. She barley killed one so just send in 5 or 6 to do the job better. And why not kill Sarah when she is no threat at all. A.K.A. When she's 5! There are so many point to exploit.
How about this? By stopping Judgment Day in T2, wouldn't this prevent John Connor from even existing? And if he still existed, wouldn't they realize that their effort to stop Judgment Day didn't work?
 

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base :p
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.
My issue with that movie is that they spend all this time saying they are after a mineral then blow up the only thing stopping them from getting it yet they completely ignore it to try to wipe out the aliens for no better reason than assholeism.
Just posting because I'm addicted to TVTropes, but:

1: The Corp wasn't a military group, it was simply private contractors made mostly of ex-soldiers. I doubt that they had the ability to attempt orbital bombardment. After all, they seem fairly arrogant, and I doubt the Stockholders would be happy with them packing orbital bombardment weaponry against an enemy armed with bows and arrows.

2: Not exactly sure how they would do that. How would you get a transport through the clouds of Na'vi and their birds? Placing something on the ground makes it vulnerable to attack as well.

3: Maybe some trees have extremely hard wood. In addition, I would expect the draw weight on their bows to be pretty high. And lastly, we don't know for sure if the glass is bulletproof. It may be, but didn't the Rouge Pilot shoot through the glass of the Dragon?

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And to Judgment 101, they were planning on ignoring the Na'vi. Jake screwed that up by rallying the tribes. Had he simply let them disperse, they wouldnt have joined together. But because they did join together to expel the Corp, the Corp had no choice but try and take out what they saw as the "moral center" in an attempt to make them disperse.
1.IF you can travel faster then speed of light you can do whatever the hell you want. At least in my book.
2. How can those tree huggers kill a tank unless with those animals, not even bullets can take out a tank, easy... next!
3. If you don't have bullet proof gas and you are in the space age, how the hell did you travel faster then speed of light? Again how can they sharpen the wood in first place if it is super hard...
1:I don't think that they did have FTL. I think they had just under FTL travel. It took them how many years to make the 4-5 light year journey? And anyways, even if they did have FTL travel, you have to think about storage space.
2:Did they have tanks? And tanks are slow and difficult to maneuver. In addition, just because you cannot destroy a tank outright doesn't mean that you can render it useless.
3:Just because something is hard doesn't mean you cannot shape it.
 

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crudus said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
That is how the real military really makes bridges. It isn't a cliff, it was from one river bank to another.

If it was a river than why would it need to make a rampless jump? Couldn't it just drive across the river? and if it couldn't wouldn't you be in just as much shit if you missed the jump and your vehicale was swept up in the current? And i've seen the military use these trucks that have a claw that holds a collapsable bridge across gaps (rivers,canyons) the bridge unfolds and the claw lowers it over the gap. no jumping envolved
Yes, because that truck would have been good for the flow of an action movie. Anyway, last time I have had bridge building explained to me by an Army vet was when I was 5-6 years ago and last time I saw Batman begins was about the same time. If I see it again I can tell you but I am not willing to put that much effort into explaining a plot hole.

Hey i'm just saying that based on its design, High speed armored scouting vehicle sounds much more reasonable to me then bridge builder.

bahumat42 said:
dude you saw how long those movies were
did you want more runtime lol
and aside from that i thoguht the little cuts focusing on the butterfly should of been enough tbh, they didnt stick it in there for nothing :p
Just showing butterflies doesn't do anything for someone who doesn't know what they symbolize. Personally, I assumed they were symbolizing Gandolf going to his happy place to think or something like that.