Most Unfair Fight in a Game
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Let's talk about repetition in fighting games.
For the most part, my focus here is on Soul Calibur 3, which is where I became most aware of how freakin' ridiculous this is. A number of your opponents can be classified as unrealistic, bullshitty, and made of fail...because there are cases where they will use the exact same attack again and again for reasons that must be entirely due to faulty programming. This is a fighting game, where the beauty is in the elegance of the match as two opponents beat each other senseless. It is NOT clever in any way - for instance - when you get knocked over and the AI decides "I'm going to the exact same attack to hit you when you're down just to dick with you.". This is not an intuitive system. This is a bad AI.
After all, it's not physically possible for the character to keep doing that if this were a real battle with real people. And real people wouldn't do that either, because it's stupid. This was where the programmers got lazy and put in an If-Then statement to repeat, FOREVER. When that happens, it gets unfair because it's a reliance on the cheap to win instead of real skill. And when THAT happens, I feel more and more inclined to say "Fuck you, game. I'm cheating, then. NOW, who's the god, ya cheap bastard?". Because, last I checked, nobody liked skill-spammers, people who are one-trick pony fighters who never try some variation in attack. Buttons-mashers, we're cool with, but those? No.
So, cross-reference the irritation of skill-spammers with "AI Is A Crapshoot" and "The Computer Is A Cheating Bastard", and that's pretty much my entry right here on the unfair. You'll be happy to know that I don't see this too often in other games I like, but it's there...sometimes.
For the most part, my focus here is on Soul Calibur 3, which is where I became most aware of how freakin' ridiculous this is. A number of your opponents can be classified as unrealistic, bullshitty, and made of fail...because there are cases where they will use the exact same attack again and again for reasons that must be entirely due to faulty programming. This is a fighting game, where the beauty is in the elegance of the match as two opponents beat each other senseless. It is NOT clever in any way - for instance - when you get knocked over and the AI decides "I'm going to the exact same attack to hit you when you're down just to dick with you.". This is not an intuitive system. This is a bad AI.
After all, it's not physically possible for the character to keep doing that if this were a real battle with real people. And real people wouldn't do that either, because it's stupid. This was where the programmers got lazy and put in an If-Then statement to repeat, FOREVER. When that happens, it gets unfair because it's a reliance on the cheap to win instead of real skill. And when THAT happens, I feel more and more inclined to say "Fuck you, game. I'm cheating, then. NOW, who's the god, ya cheap bastard?". Because, last I checked, nobody liked skill-spammers, people who are one-trick pony fighters who never try some variation in attack. Buttons-mashers, we're cool with, but those? No.
So, cross-reference the irritation of skill-spammers with "AI Is A Crapshoot" and "The Computer Is A Cheating Bastard", and that's pretty much my entry right here on the unfair. You'll be happy to know that I don't see this too often in other games I like, but it's there...sometimes.
The final boss fight in Dragon Age: Origins. The fight itself wasn't hard. I was geared out the whazzoo and was a badass in general. No, I'm talking about when I beat the archdemon, I can not see the ending cinematic. Either video goes out, or sound goes out, or both. I have not been able to fix it. Because of this I have not finished and moved on to the expansion. I consider this a proxy victory by the archdemon because even though I killed him, he's still preventing me from finishing the game.
King of Fighter's bosses in general. I stopped playing them because I never really earned the title of "King of Fighter's". There was no real question who the real King of Fighter's was, it was the boss. Although I can beat their bosses, I can't do it consistently, so I don't feel as if I really am the King of Fighter's in those games.ReservoirAngel said:
The Fight in the archives building in Bionic Commando (X360 remake) Your out numbered massively the air-dropped weapons are crap and theirs little room for advance swinging with the bionic arm that took me about 3-4 hours on commando difficulty - unrelentingly hard
The MGS1 M1-Tank fight wasn't too unforgiving, as there was insane amounts for error (even on Normal). Also, if you've got a good arm, you can finish that boss in 2 grenade throws.Gethsemani said:
As for MGS2 during the Ray fight, each difficulty makes you fight more and more. Even on Normal on your first playthrough the fight seems a bit unfair, but give it a try on Extreme (or Euro-Extreme if you have Substance). You have to fight ALL 25 of them, with no rations more or less, and they attack much more relentlessly. Talk about unforgiving...
The first boss of fin al fantasy tactics when the game saves right before him and you can't access any menu changes. An army of low lev squires vs a demon, took forever...
the final boss of breath of fire 2. it wasn't that bad, but what he does to your party right before the battle starts is the most unfair thing i've ever seen in a game.
Dude, Maero was easy of the roof.ReservoirAngel said:
Try taking him out in the arena with only a sniper rifle
anyway, my most unfair fight vote... Red Dead Redmption. You know what i mean
The final Boss of Saga Frontier 2.
It has an all-party AoE 100% accuracy petrify attack. Game over if you don't have the anti-petrification armor equipped, and you only have one of those.. and well, if you gave it away to one of the handful of important NPC's who were with you and left up until that point well.. good game sucker.
It has an all-party AoE 100% accuracy petrify attack. Game over if you don't have the anti-petrification armor equipped, and you only have one of those.. and well, if you gave it away to one of the handful of important NPC's who were with you and left up until that point well.. good game sucker.
hmmmmmm
maybe every boss battle in ninja gaiden 2, they were always way too big and had 20 million hp and could kill u 2 or 3 hits except for the first boss but he was STILL hard, block after block and he could hit me all the time
god... i hated that game
maybe every boss battle in ninja gaiden 2, they were always way too big and had 20 million hp and could kill u 2 or 3 hits except for the first boss but he was STILL hard, block after block and he could hit me all the time
god... i hated that game
The Convicts (DR1) the snipers (DR2) and the real finale boss from dead rising 2
The convicts have a freaking jeep with a mini gun, and a guy with a baseball bat.
The Snipers are less painful, but their is one of the snipers who just keeps shooting you every time you try to clime up to him.
Me: I got you this *shot* you won't stop *shot* OH COME ON *shot* NOW WAIT PLEASE CHUCK NO *killed*
and the final boss is very hard. He takes away all your weapons, there is little to no food in the area to heal, he can take away lots of health in a short time, He has lots of health, all the good weapons are in places where he will shoot you up, and it's timed.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
The convicts have a freaking jeep with a mini gun, and a guy with a baseball bat.
The Snipers are less painful, but their is one of the snipers who just keeps shooting you every time you try to clime up to him.
Me: I got you this *shot* you won't stop *shot* OH COME ON *shot* NOW WAIT PLEASE CHUCK NO *killed*
and the final boss is very hard. He takes away all your weapons, there is little to no food in the area to heal, he can take away lots of health in a short time, He has lots of health, all the good weapons are in places where he will shoot you up, and it's timed.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU