Mother Finds Kidnapped Children On Facebook

[powell86]

The dad bashing comes from his actions. I should I suppose be more careful with the accusations of lying, but I find it hard to believe he would have told them that he disobeyed the law and took them away from their mother.

As for the mother thinking of her own welfare. The point I keep trying to get across is that a child's welfare is inextricably linked to their parent's. Chances are pretty good that the only way to ensure this was for the parent to stay put and move the children to her.

At least we can agree the mother isn't necessarily a bad person. And that the father should be in jail. Lacking vital knowledge of their personal lives these are the main points.

yeah i get your point that the child's welfare is inextricably linked to their parents. But they are of college age now, so let them decide, which sadly i think the law really screwed up here. I mean 17 and 18 year olds being placed until CHILDREN CARE??? They are freaking teenagers. And i'm more inclined to believe that the dad did provide a rather decent living standard for the kids (though i must admit he looks like trailer trash to me lol, and might not be far from the case)

what i'm hoping though is really that the woman will pay for their expenses (she would need to do that even when they're back in cali) and allow the kids to stay in florida. But then again, i'm glossing over a lot of practical issues. Chances are, even if the woman wanted that, Child Services would not have allowed it becuz they would need a legal guardian in florida as well. Hence i'm quite inclined to call bullshit on the legal system rather than either party (e.g. dad/mom)

i would say it is really a messed up situation, and the woman really perhaps couldn't haf helped any better. but nonetheless sadly, i think the most affected are really the children here rather than the woman.

 

[Keepitclean]

What if the kids were enjoying life with their dad? They'd be uberpissed at their mum for putting him in jail and all.

 

[EeveeElectro]

They probably bonded with the father more by now, well, good job destroying that relation Mrs.

My dad attempted to kidnap me once, I don't think I could have been able to bond with him if he took me away from my family if he were successful /:
Sorry for the quote, I hate getting quoted about 50 times but I thought I'd throw that out there, haha.
OT: See, Facebook has it's uses!

 

[Nemu]

I guess we know who the favorite child is.

Am I a bad person for finding this a fantabulous quote?

Who cares?

I lol'ed.

Anyway, I'm glad that that (mostly useless) site has a purpose other than being pedo-bait.

 

[Shycte]

So, let me get this straight what you are saying is that no matter what the law is you still have to obey it?
So basically if there was a law on the book that said you could go out and kill as many people as you want as long as you do it on the second Tuesday of every month you would have to follow it because it is a law?

Note could. Also, the current law says that I could worship any God I want, but I still have a choice to not do it.

Also, don't draw this to such extreme points. There is no point in discuss this if your going to do that.

It's would be like:

Shycte: I am liberal.

Danilo Morales: So you think we should be free to do anything we want? Effin anarxist!!!!

See, it doesnt work well.

 

[pwnzerstick]

And then they all drew Mohamad

 

[Miumaru]

They probably bonded with the father more by now, well, good job destroying that relation Mrs.

Thats what I was thinking. They obviously would not have known they were even stolen. Such a morality bender. But if cops came and arrested my mom cause she stole me from my birth father (which after reading this could be possible) Id be like woah now. Though I dont actually like my mom so who knows.

 

[cainx10a]

They probably bonded with the father more by now, well, good job destroying that relation Mrs.

My dad attempted to kidnap me once, I don't think I could have been able to bond with him if he took me away from my family if he were successful /:
Sorry for the quote, I hate getting quoted about 50 times but I thought I'd throw that out there, haha.
OT: See, Facebook has it's uses!

At least I feel slightly less lonely when I see that someone quoted me. Although, I find it hard to despise your Pa for kidnapping you if you probably would only remember him and forget about Ma and everyone that you "left behind".

Edit: I accidentally hit Report, instead of quote.

 

[EeveeElectro]

They probably bonded with the father more by now, well, good job destroying that relation Mrs.

My dad attempted to kidnap me once, I don't think I could have been able to bond with him if he took me away from my family if he were successful /:
Sorry for the quote, I hate getting quoted about 50 times but I thought I'd throw that out there, haha.
OT: See, Facebook has it's uses!

At least I feel slightly less lonely when I see that someone quoted me. Although, I find it hard to despise your Pa for kidnapping you if you probably would only remember him and forget about Ma and everyone that you "left behind".

Edit: I accidentally hit Report, instead of quote.

He'd have probably got arrested anyway >_< and oops! but if a mod looks and sees my post isn't offensive, they'll probably ignore it.

 

[theultimateend]

They probably bonded with the father more by now, well, good job destroying that relation Mrs.

What? It's the fault of the woman who lost her children, not of the father that kidnapped them? What should she have done, washed her hands of them? That's like blaming the cop that arrested you for ruining your life, not yourself for committing the crime.

Well we don't know a whole lot.

The mother could have been an alcoholic who beat her children and skinned kittens for all we know.

I'd like to think that isn't the case. But it is difficult to know whether this is a happy story or not for most people involved.

 

[Blatherscythe]

So a mother is reunited with her children that were taken from her 15 years ago by her husband illegaly? Good, hope that ass rots in prison, I wonder if he abused or did anything harmful to the children? Probably, he didn't want to be caught so he restricts their freedoms.

 

[Danilo Morales]

So, let me get this straight what you are saying is that no matter what the law is you still have to obey it?
So basically if there was a law on the book that said you could go out and kill as many people as you want as long as you do it on the second Tuesday of every month you would have to follow it because it is a law?

Note could. Also, the current law says that I could worship any God I want, but I still have a choice to not do it.

Also, don't draw this to such extreme points. There is no point in discuss this if your going to do that.

It's would be like:

Shycte: I am liberal.

Very true, but i meant to be extreme to make a point, laws aren't just or correct just because they are written down and called laws.

Danilo Morales: So you think we should be free to do anything we want? Effin anarxist!!!!

See, it doesnt work well.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

They probably bonded with the father more by now, well, good job destroying that relation Mrs.

Any father who kidnaps his kids from their own mother is probably not worth bonding with. He sounds crazy.

As has been said somewhat, perhaps the mother was crazy and Dad took the kids away from her because Mom is a danger? There is little information provided here.

 

[HuntrRose]

Faith in Humanity: +10

Damn.. Writing that felt weird. usually no + sign there...

 

[Mortons4ck]

Well, this page http://law.rightpundits.com/?p=1708 doesn't say a whole lot more, but it does say "The girl told her mother that she wanted nothing to do with her and deleted her Facebook page, but authorities had enough information to track the family down."

That's... probably not a good sign. I don't know for certain, but it seems an awful lot like this is one of those situations where mercy would have been wiser than "justice".

Found a similar story on CNET http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20006895-93.html. I empathize with the mother. But, I also believe she handled the situation very poorly.

To all those people demonizing the father, legal does not always equal moral. Especially when it comes to parents "kidnapping" their kids. I'm not taking a stance either way on this particular case, but it does remind me of the case that happened a year ago where a mother "kidnapped" her dying son after he refused court ordered chemotherapy and a warrant was issued for her arrest [http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/05/25/arrest-ordered-for-mom-of-boy-who-refused-chemo.aspx]

 

[goldenheart323]

Ugh! I could only bare to read 5 pages of the dribble in this thread! To declare EITHER parent a ***** or a bastard is amazingly & utterly preposterous! Given the very few facts we have, it's stupid to think you can figure out which is the good parent.

Anyone who assumes the mother ripped the kids out of their happy lives is stupid. There was zero mention of the kids' quality of life.

"The kids had access to a computer, so obviously they weren't locked up in a basement, so he must be a decent dad."
OH MY WORD! I hope you people never have anything to do with children if letting them use a PC is the ONLY thing you need to do to be a good parent!

People make assumptions here & get upset at the mother or the father. I'm not upset at either parent. I'm amazed at people in the forum who both make these massive assumptions & then feel qualified to judge someone they don't even know based on an assumption instead of information. Whereas I'm judging people based on their amazingly flawed thought process they've demonstrated here.

Kudos to everyone smart enough to know we don't have enough information to root for either parent.

 

[Ekonk]

Big Brother finds your kids.

 

[Rakkana]

I still hate facebook.

 

[DeeTee]

They probably bonded with the father more by now, well, good job destroying that relation Mrs.

What? It's the fault of the woman who lost her children, not of the father that kidnapped them? What should she have done, washed her hands of them? That's like blaming the cop that arrested you for ruining your life, not yourself for committing the crime.

Well we don't know a whole lot.

The mother could have been an alcoholic who beat her children and skinned kittens for all we know.

I'd like to think that isn't the case. But it is difficult to know whether this is a happy story or not for most people involved.

I agree, but that's a whole lot of assumptions to make before you get to "she should have just left them there", which is what the comment I replied to seemed to be saying.

 

[Johnny Cain]

Could it be? Something to compliment facebook on?
Granted this is yet another legal story revolving around the site, so I'm... stuck.